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first cycle w/igtropin

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20years, still clean, been training seriously for bout 3-4 years.. 180lbs bodyfat ~9-10% , bulkup cyc...

1-12 200mg EQ/week
1-12 250mg Test Enthenate/week splitted in two shots
8-12 50mg winstrol/ED

1-11 1000ui HCG/week splitted in two shots
10-14 / 25days 40mcg igtropin ifg-1 lr3 after workout

1mg arimidex week 6-12
clomid theraphy 2weeks after last test shot depending on my bloodtest


food high kcal clean food, low good fat, high carb,prot.
liverprotection r-ALA and milk thistle


looking good ? please respond
 
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20 YEARS OLD?!?!?

I HOPE you meant 20 years experience... not 20 yrs. old, give more details on your cycle history, age, height, experience, and then we could assess better. :confused:
 
20 years old
never done aas nor the HGH,IFG,ins..
6"9 tall
3-4years serious training
 
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wow...

ask youself, hows your diet, what is your training regime like? have you been making gains solid for a while and are now at a plateau?
i would seriously think about using that much gear for a first time, thats not a good idea.

if its your first cycle,
take some test at like 200-400mg per week, for like 12 weeks and see how that goes for you. make sure you follow some good pct in order to return yourself to normal.
so, you could drop the winstrol, and if you are worried about water retention, then you might have some arimidex on HAND. you dont necessarily need to take it unless you are wanting to stay unbloated.
the winstrol will only make your joints brittle and increase your chance for injury. i would only use it if i was in competition prep. otherwise, its just too hard on the body.


look at your diet and training routine, and if you cant gain from 6000 cals a day, then you might think about using gear.
just my humble opinion though man.
 
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i've tried 6000kcal, 5000kcal.. i just ending up getting muscles but also lot'sa water and fat on my body. i get bloated up. i've been up at 230lbs at 16% fat, lost much of it due some time in my life i didnt train, bout half a year now. i want to try the roids to do a fast way, hopefully add it lean this time. i can eat myself up natural, but i get so much water and fat with clean food its not fun :)
 
Normally, i'd say wait till your older and your own natural test levels start to decline before you start messin' with gear. However, you are 6'9" correct???

Thats a hell of a frame to fill out. I've seen guys that tall eat and eat. Train their balls off and still make minimal gains.

If you've got your diet in order, train properly and are committed to the lifestyle, then give it a go.

I'm no expert by any means(on gear), but found I could make good gains yearly natural till i turned about 35.

Good luck to ya
 

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