Good estrogen and still libido problems?

[multipass]

Possible.

The main causes of dopamine desensitization are: porn addiction, compulsive masturbation, stimulant use (amphetamine variety), trenbolone use, recreational drugs, some prescription drugs, etc

Receptively stimulating the same pathways desensitizes them then when someone takes certain drugs on top of that it accelerates the rate of desensitization. Result is a person needs more and more stimulus to reach the same feeling. In the case of porn addiction eventually someone needs 20+ tabs open and constant switching to maintain interest.

Another possibility is the OP is simply just suffering from anxiety. In my experience nothing kills my erections or libido more than thinking I might have issues.

What steps would you recommend to recover from dopamine desensitization and how long can it take?

 

[CC]

What steps would you recommend to recover from dopamine desensitization and how long can it take?

First don't look at porn or compulsively masturbate (don't force yourself to do it, should be able to get rock hard with in a few seconds of thinking something hot if it's time. Sex is good of course)

Second don't take any of the drugs I listed before.

Third try some: CDP-Choline, Alpha GPC, Inositol, Uridine-5'-Monophosphate, Sulbutiamine, B vitamins, Phenylethylamine HCL, Catuaba, etc. Look up dosages online and play around with it.

Can take a few months to notice large changes assuming all hormones stay in check.

 

[superbigd]

Possible.

The main causes of dopamine desensitization are: porn addiction, compulsive masturbation, stimulant use (amphetamine variety), trenbolone use ,recreational drugs, some prescription drugs, etc

Receptively stimulating the same pathways desensitizes them then when someone takes certain drugs on top of that it accelerates the rate of desensitization. Result is a person needs more and more stimulus to reach the same feeling. In the case of porn addiction eventually someone needs 20+ tabs open and constant switching to maintain interest.

Another possibility is the OP is simply just suffering from anxiety. In my experience nothing kills my erections or libido more than thinking I might have issues.

Pretty sure the whole board is guilty of the bolded above

 

[MouthBreather1982]

I had the same problem for as long as I can remember. Honestly recently I have been running 500 of test and some novla and it was super high for a few months. I just added in Aromasin and its almost non existent now. Im thinking low test with no AI is the less complicated bet for me and my blood pressure, I will see how the libido goes on 250 a week with maybe a little novla.

Following this thread to see what you find out.

 

[SRhealth-Rachel]

The HCG can cure the libido, u can add the dosage of TC and low down the Aromasin into 12.5mg/eod, persoanlly the nolvadex is better than the Aromasin

 

[saffire]

The HCG can cure the libido, u can add the dosage of TC and low down the Aromasin into 12.5mg/eod, persoanlly the nolvadex is better than the Aromasin

I'm down to 12.5mg/eod, proviron 25mg, 2 weeks still no changes

would be 250ius HCG 2x week enough ?

 

[saffire]

Didn't post ... but i added HCG and 25mg proviron/ed , but after while on 12.5mg/eod aromasin i felt like it getting so much worst so i upped my aromasin to 25mg/ed ( i was thinking my e2 would spike so much due to HCG( i know it was stupid move)

did bloods again,

S-TSH OK 3,42 mIU/l [0.3-5]
Prolactin OK 8.5 ng/ml [2 - 17]
Progesterone OK 2.8 nmol/l [0.7-4.6]

SHBG 3,4 nmol/l too low?

Estradiol : Insufficient volume of serum. too low?

 

[lodykarsen]

Same exact issues here recently. I am running 225-250 test c/ wk Adex 1mg/3xwk. E levels were at 22. Free T tested at 65 and Total T at 1600....... absolutely zero sex drive and felt like shit! I spoke with a couple members here and was advised to drop my Adex out and get E levels in the higher range (35-45 range). I also upped my test c a little as well to try and feel a bit better. so far no High E symptoms or gyno issues. Its only been 2 weeks and it will take some time. Hoping this works.... thoughts?

 

[nothuman]

Wait, so HCG can help with ED/libido issues while on TRT?

What's the consensus here?

 

[LK3]

Possible.

The main causes of dopamine desensitization are: porn addiction, compulsive masturbation, stimulant use (amphetamine variety), trenbolone use, recreational drugs, some prescription drugs, etc

Receptively stimulating the same pathways desensitizes them then when someone takes certain drugs on top of that it accelerates the rate of desensitization. Result is a person needs more and more stimulus to reach the same feeling. In the case of porn addiction eventually someone needs 20+ tabs open and constant switching to maintain interest.

Another possibility is the OP is simply just suffering from anxiety. In my experience nothing kills my erections or libido more than thinking I might have issues.

as a true dopamine addict you basically describe what i need to get out of bed in the morning! lol!

the real thing here is while chemistry is important there is much more to "sex drive" and all that then just chemistry. soo much more

to the op, sex drive comes n goes for sure.
if you are earlier in your chemical adventure i honestly think its quite common for guys to have low sex drive n issues after a cycle for a while, for lots of reasons.

dopamine is just one more part of the whole equation.

 

[LK3]

Wait, so HCG can help with ED/libido issues while on TRT?

What's the consensus here?

yes, in theory anything that stimulate natty productution could.
could lol
there are no 100% answers once you go down this road bro, keep that in mind as you go.

 

[TheOtherOne55]

Obviously its a fine line to find...but estrogren seems to ALWAYS be the culprit when most guys post a libido problem on here.

At least for me, I'd rather have my estro be slightly too high than too low.
Too many guys are taking 1mg of Arimidex ED or 25 of Aromasin HOPING to control estrogren, then are blindsided when they are having ED issues.

I'd rather teater into too high of estro and fuck like a champ than look a little dryer and cant get hard.

 

[saffire]

What i'm worried too guys is:

low SHBG levels - 3,4 nmol/l and high S-TSH levels 3,42 mIU

any ideas for upping SHBG and lowering TSH levels?

If estrogen would go little up should SHBG go up as well right? what about tsh levels? Does Hgh have effect on TSH levels? i did run GH 3iu/day which can be connection between high tsh and hgh?

 

[jpkoepse]

HCG can help because it mimics LH in the brain.. I've heard Scott S talk about LH in the brain and how that can play a large role in some people. Works for me

 

[saffire]

HCG can help because it mimics LH in the brain.. I've heard Scott S talk about LH in the brain and how that can play a large role in some people. Works for me

Well i felt little bit better on HCG, but nothing that give me libido "boost" and maintain hard erection , thing now is that on bloods my SHBG levels are low - 3,4 nmol , so i think that might be part of problem, thinking of droping proviron and lowering AI' again, increasing pins from 2-3/week to EOD and maybe adding some t3 for increasing SHBG levels?

 

[LK3]

Well i felt little bit better on HCG, but nothing that give me libido "boost" and maintain hard erection , thing now is that on bloods my SHBG levels are low - 3,4 nmol , so i think that might be part of problem, thinking of droping proviron and lowering AI' again, increasing pins from 2-3/week to EOD and maybe adding some t3 for increasing SHBG levels?

do you use cialis?
10mg ed is like a fix all for all sorts of shit n par for the course for most.

aside form that in all probability the chemical obsession isnt helping. lol

 

[thebigbus]

estradiol most likely too low. the regular test overestimates the actual value, from what I've read.

my libido does much better with a bit higher estro than with low.

try not to change too many variables at once, as well. drop the AI, keep everything else same, then recheck and give it TIME.

 

[saffire]

do you use cialis?
10mg ed is like a fix all for all sorts of shit n par for the course for most.

aside form that in all probability the chemical obsession isnt helping. lol

Yes cialis works like a charm but i don't like to have stuffy nose all the time, even levitra is great, but i don't wanna be dependent on that meds, well until i fix problem thats temporarily solution

 

[LK3]

Yes cialis works like a charm but i don't like to have stuffy nose all the time, even levitra is great, but i don't wanna be dependent on that meds, well until i fix problem thats temporarily solution

even low dose?
5-10 mg?
usually the side like that come on with higher doses, at least in my experience.

in the grand scheme of things i feel the multiple benefits out weigh the downsides of staying on another compound. i agree with your idea on it, just the amt of time/effort n stress to micro manage hormones n wonder if n what the exact optimal range may or may not be vs sticking to a regular trt protocol for a bit n being patient while things even out. in time they will and you will feel better, just chill out with the ups n downs as often that can fuck up how you "feel".

good luck!

 

[rmtt]

Yes cialis works like a charm but i don't like to have stuffy nose all the time, even levitra is great, but i don't wanna be dependent on that meds, well until i fix problem thats temporarily solution

I'm in the same boat. Any of them even at super low doses stuff my sinuses up for days.

I also notice that they give me acid reflux at times.

Avanafil is labeled as a second-generation PDE5 inhibitor and supposed to have less side effects than the others in trials...and I noticed it does seem to be a little more tolerable for me....but the sides are still there.

Not as bad as the others...but they still are uncomfortable. Biggest thing is that the sides go away quicker for me....but I only tried half the recommended dose.

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