Guys coming off being on for long periods off time?

[dutch]

I am looking for some "succes story's" from guys coming off after being on for a long period off time. I am also interested what they did to make it all a bit easier coming off. I have been reading a lott off story's off guys who's hpta never came back to normal even after months like to know if there is also another side to the coin (positive) also? the reason i ask this is mainly to give me some support and courage to go and do it.

Thanks guys.

 

[wrought]

Do it. The initial transition was brutal for me, I'd been on for a long time (couple of years) but now after about 7 months of being off even with the decreased libido and fertility issues I find my training is going better, I've cleaned up my diet, and my wife thinks I'm behaving myself a bit better, lol.

I look at it as a net positive, while my HPTA may be taking longer than I expected to fully recover it is coming back slowly and its been really rewarding relearning how my body functions clean and what the best ways to train/eat now are.

 

[dutch]

I really wanna do it i have been on for two years aswell most i have been off in that time is 4 to 6 weeks for a view times. I did strongman semi professional ( in Holland) and got carried away in the "heavier stronger game". Half off the year i was on 250mg of test every 7 to 10 days and the other half off the year i cycled towards contests with Dboll or Tren for max 4 weeks before the contest and then after the contest back to only test. Did 6 to 8 contests a year.

Iam 28 years old and i am going to see a doctor in the hospital next week to do a total check up and blood work. Are there any medications i can ask for to make the process some what easier that you guys know off?

Thanks again.

 

[BLACKCAT]

Knew of someone on roughly 400mgs testosterone and 300mg Deca or 400mg EQ for a year. During that year three months would be run with both the test and the anabolic followed by three months or so of just a lower dose of test. Very similar to the blast and cruise type methods you see people doing. Decided to come off and tapered the testosterone to 200mgs for several weeks followed by 100mgs and then nothing at all. Started HCG, aromasin, and clomid at the end

HCG 1500iu every 3rd day for a total of 6000ius followed by a 500iu shot EOD for a total of 4000ius so 10000ius all together were taken over that period of time.

Aromasin was taken at half a tab EOD for 6 weeks and clomid a tab a day once he stopped taking the HCG.

Had bloodwork done to see where his levels were at several times.

The bad news - He put on some fat and lost a little muscle. Body weight stayed about the same but just switched a little muscle for fat. Strength was still decent as long as the diet was in check. Needed way more recovery time between sessions and diet became the biggest factor (which it should always be to begin with). Bloodwork confirmed that even after 5 months of being off his levels were still very low. Prior history on usage was that of a competitive bodybuilder but mainly on the lower side of total mgs taken. Never more than 500-800mgs total at a time and that was off and on for about four years.

The good news- He feels great now. Levels have come up and with that good muscle pumps in the gym and a general healthy feeling. Bloodwork confirmed most levels were within the normal range with the exception of IGF and DHEA which were slightly lower than normal. Its taken over a year for all of this to happen.

For anyone that complains about lower than normal hormone levels after years of using, there is a little hope. I think it depends on the amounts used and for the length of time used. However, this is all self inflicted. The choice to do this to ones self was made a long time ago and people need to take responsibility for their actions and live with the decision. If things don't start looking up after a year or so it might be time to come to terms that you are going to be on HRT for the rest of your life. Be smart about things and put health and well being over muscle mass. I don't know how practical that last statement is because after all, it's a rough sport. Just be responsible and respectful your body.

 

[ironone1]

I've been off now for about 6 weeks after being on for a year+ I've been doing the usual clomid, nolva, and an OTC PCT formula. Biggest thing is the crash lately of feeling so tired. I even have been taking Proviron and Cialis with little effect, but I do wake up with morning wood. I don't care I need to stay off now for several months at least. It does suck but hopefully it will get better soon. HRT is probably the reality for me in the long run.

 

[w8tlifterty]

Bump for more experiences...

Good post blackcat...informative and helps put things into perspective for maybe some of us who have maybe pushed are bodies alittle to much btwn training and aas useage...

 

[woody00]

i was on for 3 years... taking little breaks. came off in march. i kept size and leanness.. but ive got limp dick and it sucks. i feel sorry for the girl im with now. i actually facially look better though. get way more compliments on my face, no bloat. but my dick is limp and i have zero sex drive

 

[mikeheavypecs]

I am looking for some "succes story's" from guys coming off after being on for a long period off time. I am also interested what they did to make it all a bit easier coming off. I have been reading a lott off story's off guys who's hpta never came back to normal even after months like to know if there is also another side to the coin (positive) also? the reason i ask this is mainly to give me some support and courage to go and do it.

Thanks guys.

I've been on for 2 years now. When i take a break, which will be in Nov I will use Androderm patches to help level out the CRASH in Testosterone. it helps smooth the transition. I have done this before and all seems well. Of course I will have blood test taken just to make sure. Actually I never expect my hpta to return to normal. I'll either wear the patches the reste of my life or administer 250mg Test /week for the rest of it.
Mike

 

[delts79]

Sex Drive

I don't want to come off because I have had low sex drive prior to taking after a 3 year lay off. I would rather stay on to keep the sex drive normal than anything else. I don't want my fiance to be disappointed all of the time becaise I feel like crap. I guess cycles I have taken in the past have messed me up. Of course I should probably go to a doctor for this and not do it on my own. It's a shit situation but we do it to ourselves.

 

[emeric delczeg]

I really wanna do it i have been on for two years aswell most i have been off in that time is 4 to 6 weeks for a view times. I did strongman semi professional ( in Holland) and got carried away in the "heavier stronger game". Half off the year i was on 250mg of test every 7 to 10 days and the other half off the year i cycled towards contests with Dboll or Tren for max 4 weeks before the contest and then after the contest back to only test. Did 6 to 8 contests a year.

Iam 28 years old and i am going to see a doctor in the hospital next week to do a total check up and blood work. Are there any medications i can ask for to make the process some what easier that you guys know off?

Thanks again.

Questin, are you planing to take a short brake and go back, or you planing to stay of for ever.

 

[dutch]

I would love to come off completly but i am scared for some off the sides that come with doing that. Thanks for the input guys.

 

[dutch]

I have to add that my biggest fear is losing sexdrive completly and all the shit that comes with that. If i lose gains wich allready happend because i tapered down bigtime so be it i just want to keep my girl and keep her happy. Being able to have kids has some to do with aswell. Is there anything out there to keep sexdrive some what normal that somebody know off? I know its all my own fault and i have to face the consiquensis.

 

[mrshoulders]

On for over 4 years now and plan to never come off...Why would I want to ???

 

[jimmyjones]

For those that do a simple 12 week cycle of some Test and EQ and come off, how long does the HPTA take ?

 

[Pekkerwood]

I was "on" for at least five years straight i.e. I would take six to eight weeks off at the most or just "cruise". It took about 4 months, and my test came back to low normal and peaked there , but I am 47. Currently on HRT.

 

[morepain]

spent many years primarily "on" ; after working extensively with an internal medical specialist in the end i opted for the HRT due primarily to the sex drive issues and the low testosterone affected a pre-existing depression issue (making it worse obviously) I will say that even though i am quite a bit smaller, i am pretty much over that now and most think i look much better.

 

[dutch]

It makes me wonder how much off it is a mental game? I mean if your on for longer periods i think your mind set changes and begins to think that the state your in is normal and you forget how it was before being on. But like all things its very much a personal thing its different for everybody.

 

[dutch]

I was "on" for at least five years straight i.e. I would take six to eight weeks off at the most or just "cruise". It took about 4 months, and my test came back to low normal and peaked there , but I am 47. Currently on HRT.

That aint to bad Pekker. Did you have any big sides?

 

[BLACKCAT]

On for over 4 years now and plan to never come off...Why would I want to ???

Oh I don't know....so maybe you don't die earlier than you should? If thats something that does not bother you then hey, who am I to preach. I mean no disrespect by saying this but that type of thinking is just reckless. At one point in time I used to think about getting as big as possible. Now I think about staying as healthy as possible.

 

[dutch]

I was like that in away also...i basically didnt care all i wanted was to win contests and be bigger and stronger. Reckless yes. Funny how your life and the way you see things can change rapidly.