Guys on HRT

[Jackie Treehorn]

Genlman who are on HRT what dose do you take?Do you keep much more of your cycle gains now that your allways on?Do you cycle lesss often now?Do you use lower doses on a cycle now?Thanks

 

[xcelbeyond]

Here's my HRT program: 1+g test/week - j/k (that is what I'm on)

xcel

 

[Jackie Treehorn]

HAAHAHA.. ..I mean guys taking 100-200mg a test for replacement reasons.

 

[Jackie Treehorn]

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[SWALE]

Standard starting dosages run 75-100mg per week. Then we retest and titrate from there to get you to the top of normal range. For instance, I just had a guy come in at only 151mg/dL. I started him on 100mg per week, and he went to 760ng/dL, with no estrogen problem. It's a beautiful thing!

I have noticed a couple things about my HRT patients who used to do AAS: 1). they NEVER want to do anything but IM Upjohn, and 2). it seems to take more testosterone to get them to the top. I wish I had an explanation for #2, but that is just the way it works out.

I also have a few patients who cycle from time to time, then use HRT in between. It's A LOT more work for 'Ol Doc, but I am learning much from watching how their bodies respond to my ever evolving protocols.

 

[Jackie Treehorn]

I see.With the men who use HRT and cycle AAS ,do they use any clomid ,armidex or HCG?If so why?Since they dont crash as severly as non HRT recipiants do they keep all the gains they made while on AAS?

 

[SWALE]

Yes, all the above are available to them. My guys so far have said they don't crash like they used to. However, one must keep in mind that it takes a given serum androgen level to maintain a given amount of muscle mass. Funny, though, several have told me they actually look their best about a month after they go off (whatever "best" means).