HMG (Human Menopausal Gonadotropin)

[0o0o0o]

Does anyone have experience with this?

 

[DOGGCRAPP]

Very much so...

(hey that was the question)

 

[wasp]

yeah, i use it when i want my nuts to shrink

 

[0o0o0o]

ok, thanks for the help... how did you run it, how effective was it, do you you use it with hcg, ect.

 

[Thebigone]

I have 10 vials of this stuff sitting around. I havent bothered using it b/c I dont think its really necassary unless you plan on having a kid right? Shit is super expensive too.

 

[mojo jojo]

I used it when I was on cycle and my wife and I wanted another baby. My daughter recently turned 2 so I think it worked well.

I did not use it with HCG. I would start taking it about 1 week before my wife ovulated at 15IUs a day. Then right before she ovulated I would take 25IUs a day. I would also take it about 1 week following that at 15IUs every other day.

That seemed to work for me and I only went through 3 bottles a month. Since you can get it for $10 a bottle that is only $30 a month so I wouldn't say it is very expensive at all.

 

[gyno]

Me and my wife are having some trouble

it would really be great if someone could elaborate on a sound protocol here.

 

[ICU11b]

Trying to gather info on this myself...

 

[Huuuge]

I used it when I was on cycle and my wife and I wanted another baby. My daughter recently turned 2 so I think it worked well.

I did not use it with HCG. I would start taking it about 1 week before my wife ovulated at 15IUs a day. Then right before she ovulated I would take 25IUs a day. I would also take it about 1 week following that at 15IUs every other day.

That seemed to work for me and I only went through 3 bottles a month. Since you can get it for $10 a bottle that is only $30 a month so I wouldn't say it is very expensive at all.

So how many months did you take it for? Can you take it if your not on cycle?? My wife and I are trying for our first, and I'm dying to get back to the aas but told her that I wouldn't touch any until she's preggers... Any help with this would be much appreciated lol

 

[Druss]

For years, bodybuilders used HCG to kick-start their HPTA after a cycle. There’s still a lot of debate as to how it should be used, but for simplicities sake it’s fair to say it should be administered once the testes show sign of atrophy. This makes sense since, contrary to popular belief, HCG (and HMG) do not “cure” or “recover” anything. They do not return testosterone levels permanently and they do not assure that production will return to normal. They simply give a temporary boost that can be extremely helpful when one’s hormonal system is suppressed and attempted to return to normal. It’s a little bit of a “head start” on recovery, but at some point, the body must produce hormones all on its own – otherwise, it really isn’t recovery, its just substituting one drug for another. This is why supplementation is also recommended at this time.

Now that we’re established exactly how these drugs work, let’s examine the differences.

The most significant disparity is in the fact that HCG mimics LH (luetinized hormone). It gives the body a false signal that LH is present and everything else responds accordingly. HMG actually elevates natural LH. Now to some, there’s little difference, but it’s always better when the body reacts in the most natural manner. There’s also less of a chance of building up a tolerance when this occurs. And in the case of HCG, tolerance is developed pretty quickly. You see, Mother Nature is pretty sharp. You can fool her a few times but after a while, she catches on and refuses to cooperate. That’s why excessive HCG use is not recommend. Use too much, too often, and it won’t work at all.

Exactly how much LESS suppressive HMG is appears to still remain speculative. But it’s a good guess that it’s less so.

There’s another, still empirical, opinion that HMG causes less of an estrogen spike. The use of HMG for bodybuilding purposes is so new there’s no way of proving this one-way or the other. Yet. But again, it stands to reason this is so.

One absolute difference between the two compounds is the fact that HMG raises FSH (Follicle Stimulating Hormone) and HCG does not. Again, this is due to the fact that HCG works synthetically and HMG stimulates the entire feedback loop. This is especially appealing since an increase in FSH means higher sperm count and ejaculate volume.

Dosage:

Although HMG is relatively new to the steroid community there are already misconceptions surrounding its use. People fail to realize that recommended dosages in the enclosed literature are for the original purpose of drug – that of a fertility stimulant in women. For men’s purposes, a much lower dose is needed. A single shot of 75 i.u.’s may be all that’s necessary. You can even try spitting that up into two half shots over two days. Using more, will not “do more.” It will not elevate T higher, or give you bigger balls so don’t even think about it.

Availability:

HMG is quickly becoming more available in generic form. As of this writing, there are no UG labs manufacturing it. (But that may change soon).

Anecdotal feedback on HMG has been very positive. It seems to work at least as well as HCG and most users feel it’s superior. Until more is known (and prices hopefully come down) it may be best to alternate between HCG and HMG. This may also have an additional benefit of lessening the desensitizing effects of HCG.

As mentioned, any LH stimulation is temporary so while you’re recovering it’s best to have every advantage. Supplements such as UNLEASHED and POST CYCLE can make the most of natural hormone production and get you on the road to recovery faster.


HMG and HCG may be related but it looks like HMG is the bigger, badder brother. The only way of knowing if it works for you is to give it a try.

sounds interesting....

 

[Huuuge]

That some good info there bro ^^^^ Thanks

 

[dece870717]

Interesting HMG related study with steroid user.

Successful treatment of anabolic steroid-induced a... [Fertil Steril. 2003] - PubMed result

OBJECTIVE: To document for the first time the successful treatment using human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) and human menopausal gonadotropins (hMG) of anabolic steroid-induced azoospermia that was persistent despite 1 year of cessation from steroid use. DESIGN: Clinical case report. SETTINGS: Tertiary referral center for infertility. PATIENT(S): A married couple with primary subfertility secondary to azoospermia and male hypogonadotropic hypogonadism. The husband was a bodybuilder who admitted to have used the anabolic steroids testosterone cypionate, methandrostenolone, oxandrolone, testosterone propionate, oxymetholone, nandrolone decanoate, and methenolone enanthate. INTERVENTION(S): Twice-weekly injections of 10,000 IU of hCG (Profasi; Serono) and daily injections of 75 IU of hMG (Humegon; Organon) for 3 months. MAIN OUTCOME MEASURE(S): Semen analyses, pregnancy. RESULT(S): Semen analyses returned to normal after 3 months of treatment. The couple conceived spontaneously 7 months later. CONCLUSION(S): Steroid-induced azoospermia that is persistent after cessation of steroid use can be treated successfully with hCG and hMG.

 

[mojo jojo]

So how many months did you take it for? Can you take it if your not on cycle?? My wife and I are trying for our first, and I'm dying to get back to the aas but told her that I wouldn't touch any until she's preggers... Any help with this would be much appreciated lol

It took 3 months of the protocol I listed before my wife got pregnant. Yes you can take it while not on cycle and it will still help.

 

[Thebigone]

I used it when I was on cycle and my wife and I wanted another baby. My daughter recently turned 2 so I think it worked well.

I did not use it with HCG. I would start taking it about 1 week before my wife ovulated at 15IUs a day. Then right before she ovulated I would take 25IUs a day. I would also take it about 1 week following that at 15IUs every other day.

That seemed to work for me and I only went through 3 bottles a month. Since you can get it for $10 a bottle that is only $30 a month so I wouldn't say it is very expensive at all.

You took 15iu's? Doesnt it only come in a vial of 150iu. 75iu LH and 75iu FSH

 

[Huuuge]

Any ideas as to why i'm struggling to find this anywhere?? I've used all my regular aas supliers and they dont stock it. Is this something that the sponsers dont carry??

 

[mojo jojo]

You took 15iu's? Doesnt it only come in a vial of 150iu. 75iu LH and 75iu FSH

The ones I've gotten all say 75IU's. If the ones I got actually contained 75iu LH and 75iu FSH then I took 15iu of each.