IGF use - How long?

[Qwert]

If one was to follow AP's guide for using IGF (30mcg 3x a week), how long would they be able to use IGF for? Also, I've heard many times that Chad has his guys on IGF literally year round, so that it will cause satellite cell growth & therefore, propell them into the next level. I wonder if the whole IGF receptor saturation theory is bunk, just like the androgen receptor down regulation theory from years ago ended up being bunk.

 

[Big Bapper]

Intresting post, I asked Grunt on another board this question. Now his protocal is a little different than APs. He recomends using all PWO 50mcg I think using 3 days a week he said you could stay on indiffinetly. I still saw gains after the 8 week mark useing media grade 20mcg X 3 Ed but took 2 weeks off just to be sure. I think it could be run year round though. Good thread Qwert.

 

[Qwert]

The more I think about it, the more it doesn't make sense that IGF stops working after 4 weeks or so. I've heard & read this so many times, but no one really says why or goes into detail. Back in the 80s, everyone used to say you have to get off AAS after a certain period due to gains stopping because of androgen receptor down regulation. Then we find out that being 'on' actually upregulates the androgen receptors & all of this was just a gym myth. If the body doesn't get 'used' to year round GH use, & I know it doesn't, due to personal experience, then I don't see why it would on IGF as well. To me, it makes sense to stay on IGF for prolonged periods to take advantage of the creation of satellite cells.

 

[edge250]

i went over 8 weeks with media grade using almostpro's protocol and now that i am running receptor grade we will see if it allows me to run it longer and still see results. its all in how you run and almostpro's protocol is by far the best

 

[DIEZEL666]

i went over 8 weeks with media grade using almostpro's protocol and now that i am running receptor grade we will see if it allows me to run it longer and still see results. its all in how you run and almostpro's protocol is by far the best

Edge, Did you run a cycle in between the IGF cycles? If so, how was that cycle? Thanks again for the good info.

 

[IBBAdmin]

Well, in my personal experience,,,,and this may sound off the wall but I stayed on IGF at 100mcg pre training 12 weeks and was unbelievable... I love the stuff now and will run it with every cycle... Beginners do not try this,,lol ..

Like I say about everything ,,,what works for me ,,works for me and I am not now or will tell anyone to do this..,.Its my run and had great results..

 

[Big Bapper]

IBB

How many times EW were you training.

 

[IBBAdmin]

How many times EW were you training.

Pre contest 7 days a week,,,

 

[Big Bapper]

So thats 12 weeks at 700mcg EW with no known spill over into internal organs. This thread is starting to go the wat I wanted. I think by the sounds of things I will be back on IGF Monday. Did you find the effects better pre-workout.

 

[IBBAdmin]

So thats 12 weeks at 700mcg EW with no known spill over into internal organs. This thread is starting to go the wat I wanted. I think by the sounds of things I will be back on IGF Monday. Did you find the effects better pre-workout.

I got great pumps pre workout and also got hard as a rock ,,but I am sure it has to do with my whole combination that I used

 

[Big Bapper]

Feel to share.

 

[IBBAdmin]

Feel to share.

ok I will,,

10iu gh before bed
100mcg igf1 before training

200mg Masteron/200mg Tren combo eod
100mg Winny Tabs ed
built up to 200mcg clen

diet is whole food only

Thats my new favorite combo

 

[Big Bapper]

Thanks Buddy. How far out from your competition did you switch from your bulking cycle to your Tren/mast/winny combo. 6-8 weeks. Did you run your clen stright trough or cycle 2 weeks on 2 off. Your cycle is the same as I did AS wise for my last competition execpt I used primo tabs and a little prop aswell. Nice cycle by the way.

 

[Alcatraz]

ok I will,,

10iu gh before bed
100mcg igf1 before training

200mg Masteron/200mg Tren combo eod
100mg Winny Tabs ed
built up to 200mcg clen

diet is whole food only

Thats my new favorite combo

Hey I like this bro. I am going to run a bulker for 15 wks. Come off and try and cut down before summer. I noticed there is no test? How can you get away with no test?

Thanks

 

[Enanthanator]

Well, in my personal experience,,,,and this may sound off the wall but I stayed on IGF at 100mcg pre training 12 weeks and was unbelievable... I love the stuff now and will run it with every cycle... Beginners do not try this,,lol ..

Like I say about everything ,,,what works for me ,,works for me and I am not now or will tell anyone to do this..,.Its my run and had great results..

Damn...thats pretty harsh...I did IGF pre-workout a couple of times and felt like I was ready for bed in between sets...

 

[Big Bapper]

Damn...thats pretty harsh...I did IGF pre-workout a couple of times and felt like I was ready for bed in between sets...

I was thinking along the same lines today because I have never tried IGF pre-workout when I was starting my new run of IGF, so I did my 100mcg shot PWO. I am now going to run 100mcg 4 X PWO EW and switch to 25mcg 4 X ED training days only to see if I notice a difference. The main thing is I am going to stay on IGF indiffinetly.

 

[Big Bapper]

Hey I like this bro. I am going to run a bulker for 15 wks. Come off and try and cut down before summer. I noticed there is no test? How can you get away with no test?

Thanks

I think its a pre-contest cycle.

 

[fred9]

ok I will,,

10iu gh before bed
100mcg igf1 before training

200mg Masteron/200mg Tren combo eod
100mg Winny Tabs ed
built up to 200mcg clen

diet is whole food only

Thats my new favorite combo

used a while ago almost the same cycle...
10iugh pre sleep, 100mcg igf pre workout, 200/200/200 tren/mast/testp EOD

nicest cycle ive ever used