Igf1-LR3...best protocol

[johnjuanb1]

I have been doing jjb1's calf protocol and I can say they have changed dramatically.. Just opened my 2nd vial so I would say I'm about 4 weeks in and have put close to an inch on them and they are more defined with some veins now.. I have very stubborn calves that connect high and never thought I could get to 18 inches..

PROTOCOL

Take the igf1-Lr3 post calve workout either eod or 3x/wk. Put 5mcg Igf1-Lr3 in 10 sites on each calve.

CALVE WORKOUT

I find the best response from calves comes by training them 3 times a week, or EOD, hitting only one exercise per workout. Make sure you do a different exercise each workout.
It's very important with calves to use a very slow cadence throughout the movement. If you ever see guys work their calves by bouncing the weight quickly, you'll notice they have no calves. They are merely being lazy and often putting way too much weight on the machine. This is a total waste of time. I believe in heavy weights, but you want to slowly squeeze the weight up, contract and flex with a 3 count hold at the top of the movement, and take a 5 count on the negative, into a good stretch. Each rep should take approximately 10 seconds to complete. You want a weight that you can only get 10 good reps. There are 3 parts to each set. You will use 3 foot positions to hit the outer and inner head of the calves. There will be 4 complete sets with 3 parts to each set, and a change in order of foot position for each successive set. You can do these on the seated calve raise machine, inclined calve raise machine, standing calve raise machine, leg press, etc.

SET #1:

Do 10 slow reps with toes facing forward, very slow and controlled, strong contraction at the top and a 3 count hold, then slowly take it down in a 5 count with a good stretch. Immediately after completing 10 reps which you should barely be able to do based on how heavy your weight is, point your toes outward and do 5-10 more reps in the exact same fashoin to emphasize the inner head. Then, immediately after this, point your toes inward and complete the final 5-10 reps in the sane fashion to emphasize the outer head. This is considered 1 set.

SET #2:

Same exact idea but this time you begin with toes outward, move into toes inward, and end with toes straight ahead.

SET #3:

Same idea but begin with toes inward, move into toes straight ahead, and end with toes outward.

SET #4:

REPEAT SET #1

 

[johnjuanb1]

My 2 buddies are using John right now down south.. Who did he turn pro? I know he worked with Dallas but dallas worked with several guys while using John even he will admit that. He has also worked with Cody Lewis, Nick Trigilli, and few others.. Just curious who he turned pro? I talked to him about once a month but he has never mentioned it.

But yes he does believe in mega dosing IGF. The 2 guys using him here are running anywhere from 200-400mcg and taking gh 2iu like every 2-4 hrs. Has them waking up in the middle of the night and shooting as well.

The crazy thing about john is he only charges them $50 a month.

John definitely isnt scared to mega dose EVERYTHING!

HAs them running Nolitol as well along side synthol and 20-25iu insulin through out the day

He is best known for turning Kevin Levrone pro.

 

[johnjuanb1]

This info is very interesting. So, if you were to inject 10mcg of IGF into each quad (sweep), would this be enough to make them grow?

You would need to do this EOD?

Thanks

I would put 10mcg in 5 spots on each quad sweep.

 

[johnjuanb1]

If he's basing his information off John oreagans theory he's not just saying 10mcg he's saying 10mcg bilateral per body part EOD!! That's anywhere from 140mcg - 300mcg depending on if your shooting your quads in several places and also each individual muscle belly... He's not saying 20mcg EOD total is the best protocol.

He has my friend putting 10mcg in 48 spots eod

 

[johnjuanb1]

Can you use Lr3 and other peptides in the same day?
I thought this had been proven that because Lr3 has a long half life that the other peptides you would use would not work as we'll or even not all.
If you are going with the igf/mgf protocol,you would be better using igf des pre workout and mgf post workout.

Use gh peptides upon waking, noon, and preworkout. Use Lr3 post workout. The half-life is around 12+hours so by morning the gh peptide will be good to go. It doesn't totally stop gh release from gh peptides but it does blunt it to some extent. 12 hours post Lr3 is plenty of time to allow gh peptides to work again.

 

[johnjuanb1]

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[winnivee]

JJ ah yes I forget about Kevin L he did work exclusively with him all the way up to when he turned pro. Yeah John knows his chems but he is a mega dose guru for sure. He will start you off light and work you up but he will work his way up and if your not comfortable with that he will tell you your not serious about bodybuilding lol. My 2 buddies like Johnjuan stated their bodies changed crazy in 2-3 month period once they started running the mega dose of IGF, slin, and gh together along with the other AAS compounds.

 

[hilly2008]

JJ ah yes I forget about Kevin L he did work exclusively with him all the way up to when he turned pro. Yeah John knows his chems but he is a mega dose guru for sure. He will start you off light and work you up but he will work his way up and if your not comfortable with that he will tell you your not serious about bodybuilding lol. My 2 buddies like Johnjuan stated their bodies changed crazy in 2-3 month period once they started running the mega dose of IGF, slin, and gh together along with the other AAS compounds.

Any idea what the aas n slin recommendations were ?

Im guna give this igf dosing a go after my shows

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[johnjuanb1]

Any idea what the aas n slin recommendations were ?

Im guna give this igf dosing a go after my shows

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Yes. The protocol changes all the times and doses build over time. Currently he has my friend on a hardening cycle to solidify gains from the previous mass cycle. Prior to the mass cycle was an 8 week clean out cycle of 500mg test only. The current hardening cycle consists of 900 test prop, 450 tren ace, 450 npp, 100 anadrol/day, 4ius serostim(split 3 times a day), 480mcg igf1-Lr3, syntherol in arms and chest. I can't remember the mass cycle. It had a lot of test and deca and some adrol. Insulin will be added later on. Everything builds and grows over time.

 

[warlock]

My 2 buddies are using John right now down south.. Who did he turn pro? I know he worked with Dallas but dallas worked with several guys while using John even he will admit that. He has also worked with Cody Lewis, Nick Trigilli, and few others.. Just curious who he turned pro? I talked to him about once a month but he has never mentioned it.

But yes he does believe in mega dosing IGF. The 2 guys using him here are running anywhere from 200-400mcg and taking gh 2iu like every 2-4 hrs. Has them waking up in the middle of the night and shooting as well.

The crazy thing about john is he only charges them $50 a month.

John definitely isnt scared to mega dose EVERYTHING!

HAs them running Nolitol as well along side synthol and 20-25iu insulin through out the day

Are his synthol protocols crazy high too?

 

[Landmonster]

He has my friend putting 10mcg in 48 spots eod

Just curious how you use 48 spots, when it comes to syringes.

Are you using 48 different insulin pins, or just loading up one or two syringes, and poking yourself over and over? (if this is the case, how can someone ensure sanitary safety?)

Please clarify this for the safety of anyone reading.

 

[Landmonster]

He has my friend putting 10mcg in 48 spots eod

Also... just to clarify something else about this protocol.

When you say the protocol is injecting into "48 spots EOD".... I assume this means you're injecting into targeted spots all over your entire body, correct? So, maybe... calves, quads, biceps, triceps, delts, chest, lats, traps, etc.

Question: If that is the case... are these bodybuilders TRAINING all these muscle groups EOD? Or, are they simply following a conventional split routine that trains 1 or 2 muscles per day.... but then just injecting IGF into 48 spots across full-body EOD?

 

[johnjuanb1]

Are his synthol protocols crazy high too?

My friend hasn't been with him very long. He believes in using small amount of synthol over time rather than tons. He wants the look to be natural

 

[johnjuanb1]

Just curious how you use 48 spots, when it comes to syringes.

Are you using 48 different insulin pins, or just loading up one or two syringes, and poking yourself over and over? (if this is the case, how can someone ensure sanitary safety?)

Please clarify this for the safety of anyone reading.

1cc per syringe, inject, pull out, and go the next site, then repeat. It's left at the individual's discretion but that's how i do l it.

 

[johnjuanb1]

Also... just to clarify something else about this protocol.

When you say the protocol is injecting into "48 spots EOD".... I assume this means you're injecting into targeted spots all over your entire body, correct? So, maybe... calves, quads, biceps, triceps, delts, chest, lats, traps, etc.

Question: If that is the case... are these bodybuilders TRAINING all these muscle groups EOD? Or, are they simply following a conventional split routine that trains 1 or 2 muscles per day.... but then just injecting IGF into 48 spots across full-body EOD?

He has my friend doing a conventional regiment: legs one day , back one day, chest one day, arms one day, delts/traps one day, weekend off. And yes, 48 spots in muscles all over the body EOD.

 

[winnivee]

My friend hasn't been with him very long. He believes in using small amount of synthol over time rather than tons. He wants the look to be natural

Yeah he worked with my buddy for a year before using synthol. Guessing to see how much he grew off the other stuff.

 

[premedmonster]

This info is very interesting. So, if you were to inject 10mcg of IGF into each quad (sweep), would this be enough to make them grow?

You would need to do this EOD?

Thanks

its not so much the fact that this is enough its that this is all the muscle can use before the rest gets attached at receptors in your intestines. your muscles can only utilize so much the rest goes elsewhere in the body and intestines have the highest number of receptors so injecting more at a time doesnt necessarily mean more muscle growth/hyperplasia. i think i will be doing about 20 at a time myself

 

[Pumped Up Ya]

I'm going to be doing the protocol aswell I went ahead and got in on superior peps sale can't wait to try this

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[warlock]

its not so much the fact that this is enough its that this is all the muscle can use before the rest gets attached at receptors in your intestines. your muscles can only utilize so much the rest goes elsewhere in the body and intestines have the highest number of receptors so injecting more at a time doesnt necessarily mean more muscle growth/hyperplasia. i think i will be doing about 20 at a time myself

I would love to see how that works for you. So, you will be doing 10mcg bilaterally? What muscles will you use? Keep us posted.

 

[warlock]

Yeah he worked with my buddy for a year before using synthol. Guessing to see how much he grew off the other stuff.

Does he use a lot of it? Similar protocol as Big A's?

Thanks