Im sick of people claiming natural when they use...

[GoneForever]

So this kid comes into the shop today and buys a wicked pro-hormone stack. 8weeks of ACL's tren,mass,tt-40 and mma3. Max dosing of all products,etc... He did the same thing a few months ago and put on 25lbs and is ready again. He starts telling me about how amazed he is at how big he got being all natural. I didnt say anything but come on. The gains from massive pro-horomone doses are very similar to aas and come with more side effects. I think they should really give truely natural guys a show. That means no test boosters, no prohoromones, no igf, no t3, none of that shit.

 

[Designbuilt]

So this kid comes into the shop today and buys a wicked pro-hormone stack. 8weeks of ACL's tren,mass,tt-40 and mma3. Max dosing of all products,etc... He did the same thing a few months ago and put on 25lbs and is ready again. He starts telling me about how amazed he is at how big he got being all natural. I didnt say anything but come on. The gains from massive pro-horomone doses are very similar to aas and come with more side effects. I think they should really give truely natural guys a show. That means no test boosters, no prohoromones, no igf, no t3, none of that shit.

I completely agree with this. Not only that, what I really hate most is hippocritical assholes, who you know are on, and deny it. Not only deny it, but go out of their way to bash it.

I know this guy who's in LE who is definatley on, he has massive gyno, even when he's ripped and he's gotten shredded enough to win big shows. He tells his wife who of course tells eveyone that he's clean and he hates steroids, etc.

So he loses to a buddy of mine in a show, and of course his wife said that the only reason that he lost is because "the other guy's on steroids."

That's the kind of thing that I hate. I mean if you use, fine, just don't comment either way, but why go the extra mile to talk more shit?

 

[7_Deadly_Sins]

So this kid comes into the shop today and buys a wicked pro-hormone stack. 8weeks of ACL's tren,mass,tt-40 and mma3. Max dosing of all products,etc... He did the same thing a few months ago and put on 25lbs and is ready again. He starts telling me about how amazed he is at how big he got being all natural. I didnt say anything but come on. The gains from massive pro-horomone doses are very similar to aas and come with more side effects. I think they should really give truely natural guys a show. That means no test boosters, no prohoromones, no igf, no t3, none of that shit.

There are federations like that...you have to take a poly graph test to compete..and still people using drugs in a NATURAL show is still a problem..kinda sad.
I hope to do one of these shows in about 1-2 years when I'm ready.

 

[jm425]

It is irritating how a lot of guys claim that they are natural when they are clearly not. What makes it more irritating is when the same guys put down other guys who do aas. Example: John Cena. He has said that he's all natural and trained hard to get to his size. Then he has the audacity to criticize the guys that use aas. What a tool.

 

[kid1dakota]

I agree guys! pet peeve of mine also.Say nothing either way.I lose all respect for respect someone I know is on and bashes or denies.I got on Hrt so I didn't have to lie or be a hypocrit.I can tell the truth about my "treatment".

 

[natabolic]

I know what you mean

I know a couple guys like this.
one in particular is 255 at 5'7, SUPER lean year round, crazy vascularity, and constantly adds scale weight, while keeping that lean. competes at a national level. Im good friends with this guy, and we talk about what were using, etc. well a friend of mine asked him what he used one time, and he blatantly denied it, while going on to say that he "would never use that shit" "im all natural" "its cheating, and the guys who use it are fucked"
The guy is on at LEAST a couple grams a week cruising, blasting with around 5-6. along with some other shit.
it pisses me off. if you dont want anyone knowing, tell them to fuck off. tell them its none of their business. no point in calling out the guys who use, as well as yourself.
oh yeah, the guy i was just talking about? been a cop for 7 years. so much for abiding by the law? eh?

 

[GoneForever]

There are federations like that...you have to take a poly graph test to compete..and still people using drugs in a NATURAL show is still a problem..kinda sad.
I hope to do one of these shows in about 1-2 years when I'm ready.

Yah I know, I did one years ago when I was actually natural. Only used an eca stack. The ?'s were

1.)"have you ever done any anabolic steroids"
so that pretty much left all androgenic steroids ok to use

2.) "have you ever done any growth hormone"
so igf,cjc,ghrp6,frag,etc.. were all fine then

3.) "Have you ever done any illegal diuretics"

Thats it, thats all they asked. So that leaves a whole assortment of things I could have used. Clen,t3,dnp,pgcl,synthol,etc..........

 

[xxsuprman22xx]

i dont care what people claim, it doesnt concern me. I keep my business private and really could care less if this idiot thinks these "prohormones" are anything but designer steroids. People probablly think im an asshole for not openly engaging in converstations on steroids in the gym like most of the bloated fat idiots do in the gym.

Ignorance is bliss

 

[7_Deadly_Sins]

Yah I know, I did one years ago when I was actually natural. Only used an eca stack. The ?'s were

1.)"have you ever done any anabolic steroids"
so that pretty much left all androgenic steroids ok to use

2.) "have you ever done any growth hormone"
so igf,cjc,ghrp6,frag,etc.. were all fine then

3.) "Have you ever done any illegal diuretics"

Thats it, thats all they asked. So that leaves a whole assortment of things I could have used. Clen,t3,dnp,pgcl,synthol,etc..........

The ones I seen have everything you can think of named. lol.
You cant even use ECA stacks in this federation.

 

[boattail]

although i will agree with you guys that ppl who use and then bash other users suck, also using andthen competing in an all natural show is and has been a problem.
however, guys who simply deny there use, can you really blame them? ppl are getting harsher sentences for being caught with AAS than if that were caught with COCAIN, its rediculous.

 

[GoneForever]

The ones I seen have everything you can think of named. lol.
You cant even use ECA stacks in this federation.

True but the lie detector tests are still very inaccurate. My buddy who's a cop has juiced before and when they asked him he said no and passed with flying colors. Along with many other ?'s.

 

[mace123]

So this kid comes into the shop today and buys a wicked pro-hormone stack. 8weeks of ACL's tren,mass,tt-40 and mma3. Max dosing of all products,etc... He did the same thing a few months ago and put on 25lbs and is ready again. He starts telling me about how amazed he is at how big he got being all natural. I didnt say anything but come on. The gains from massive pro-horomone doses are very similar to aas and come with more side effects. I think they should really give truely natural guys a show. That means no test boosters, no prohoromones, no igf, no t3, none of that shit.

Its misinformed guys that think they are doing a safer alternative. They think that b/c its legal theres nothing to worry about.

 

[Trenman]

I refuse to lie. If American men are afraid of anything that will make them more masculine, that's their problem. I'm not going to lie about it just to be politically correct. If women can boast about getting breast implants, I should be able to boast about looking better because of gear. If enough men would be honest, gear may even get to be more acceptable.

 

[Armageddon]

I refuse to lie. If American men are afraid of anything that will make them more masculine, that's their problem. I'm not going to lie about it just to be politically correct. If women can boast about getting breast implants, I should be able to boast about looking better because of gear. If enough men would be honest, gear may even get to be more acceptable.

Your absolutely way off with this statement. Wait until that talk leads you to have some issues, i.e. the LAW. They don't care. So it's best to just not speak about it.

 

[Gunsmith]

If your just some new punk in the gym for his yearly routine and don't know you and you ask me if I use steroids I'm going to tell you , "NO , and its none of your buisness if I did" , but for the most part guys in this sport know what can be accomplished naturaly so I'm not gonna try to bullshit them and the younger guys who are all hyped up on it I'll try to talk sense into them before they do somthing dumb and make another bad name for anabolics.

Steroids are not some magic potion in a bottle like most of the general public thinks , you still have to bust your ass in the gym and eat right to make the gains that count.

It does amaze me to see how well some of the OTC sups work now days , I remember trying the whole "Muscle Tech Stack shit" when it came out and a few years later when the "androstindion , 19-Norandrostindion , Tribulus" type stacks came out and diden't work for shit.

 

[Trenman]

I would rather go down that become a liar. There's become something extremely wrong with American society. Everyone would rather hear a lie than the truth. Truly fucked up people. I'm not one of them. I absolutely am not going to have any part of it. So if asked, yes I am going to be honest! All liars go to hell anyway. Think of it this way, lies are what has gotten us so hated to begin with. The answer is not more lies...

 

[xxsuprman22xx]

I would rather go down that become a liar. There's become something extremely wrong with American society. Everyone would rather hear a lie than the truth. Truly fucked up people. I'm not one of them. I absolutely am not going to have any part of it. So if asked, yes I am going to be honest! All liars go to hell anyway. Think of it this way, lies are what has gotten us so hated to begin with. The answer is not more lies...

i hope ur proud of your truth in your jail cell with bubba, while im oh so happy with my lies about gear, bangin my gf. lmao what a fuckin joke.

 

[zephyr22]

Yeah saw a few photos....

I saw some natural federation pro online pictures. The funny thing is he had active gyno??? What the hell gives. I think some guys have shit genetics and they want to win. No reason just to have a trophy and something to brag about. Really fucked up if you ask me. I got beat in a show by some dude that trained with weights 2 times per week. But he was a competive runner. It was a semi local show. I took second to a guy with shredded glutes with hardly any muscle. I was cut but not ripped. First show for me. I couldnt understand it. The guy said to me "all I wanted was a trophy and bragging rights". I said "thats it?" He said "I thought you kicked my ass". I asked the judges what I needed to improve. They told me to be more like the other fella who won. The panel were all women. They thought my physique was not pleasing to the eye. "Too much muscle" was another comment. I thought what the fuck I thought this was BB. Anyway the guy went in to a few more shows locally and won them as well. Yeah, this natural thing is kinda bullshit if you ask me. I wouldnt even want to look like half of em. Just my opinion.

 

[Hellbilly]

In most situations you just do not want to bring the heat. If you acquire a physique with a great amount of muscle, people are always going to talk "steroids". All you have to say is "those are illegal substances and this conversation makes me uncomfortable" or some variation. There is no reason to escalate a situation.. it is unfortunate that people lack the emotional intelligence to not ask such asinine personal questions.

 

[Trenman]

it is unfortunate that people lack the emotional intelligence to not ask such asinine personal questions.

At the least, people should change the subject. But I'll be honest, I fucking hate liars. There's no need to lie. Liars are cowards afraid to tell the truth. Changing the subject is OK with me. I don't think that's bad at all.