Injecting Winstrol

[gymrat10]

Anyone have experience with injecting Winstrol. I know it is pretty thick. ANy tricks. What gauge needle works best?

 

[NWMUSCLE]

Winny should not be thick at all and the good stuff will flow through a slin pin,
you can use anything from a honking 22 ga. down to a slin
Probably best just to drink it.

 

[gymrat10]

You can drink it? Is that the same as injecting it????

 

[oldfella]

Winny should not be thick at all and the good stuff will flow through a slin pin,
you can use anything from a honking 22 ga. down to a slin
Probably best just to drink it.

Drinking Inj stan/win is not as effective as IM inj. it will pass through the liver before it reaches your system and the liver will wipe out most of it. Inj win is not alkylated like oral is. use 23g 1.25 pin and work fast or it will clog. But NW is correct it is not thick. it is a true suspension and will fall out of suspension quickly thus clogging your pin.

 

[KillerStack]

Drinking Inj stan/win is not as effective as IM inj. it will pass through the liver before it reaches your system and the liver will wipe out most of it.

I don't think so. It's resistant to breakdown. That's the whole point of 17AA structure. Now it might be slightly less potent but my guess is that it's a very small difference.

Inj win is not alkylated like oral is.

Wrong. It's the exact same chemical.

 

[oldfella]

I don't think so. It's resistant to breakdown. That's the whole point of 17AA structure. Now it might be slightly less potent but my guess is that it's a very small difference.




Wrong. It's the exact same chemical.

In the past I have tried drinking and all I will say is Got nowhere near the effectiveness of IM. So something doesn't work as well. I still think the liver is going to wipe out a great deal of it before your system gets it. That is why there is Inj stan and oral. There has to be a difference.

 

[claymore]

Anyone have experience with injecting Winstrol. I know it is pretty thick. ANy tricks. What gauge needle works best?

It shouldn't be thick at all, secondly what brand are you using?

 

[KillerStack]

In the past I have tried drinking and all I will say is Got nowhere near the effectiveness of IM. So something doesn't work as well. I still think the liver is going to wipe out a great deal of it before your system gets it. That is why there is Inj stan and oral. There has to be a difference.

I think the main reason companies like Zambon have (had) oral and injectable forms of the same drug is that an injectable depot preparation is more practical in certain situations (fewer dosings). Also think how Zambon for example made 2mg tablets. If most of that got destroyed by the liver it has to be one hell of a potent steroid since it's effective for anabolism at 6mg a day according to research. Injectable forms only avoid the first pass metabolism. The injectable will be metabolized by the liver also.

I'm going to look if I can find some equivalency chart on oral vs injectable.

 

[oldfella]

I think the main reason companies like Zambon have (had) oral and injectable forms of the same drug is that an injectable depot preparation is more practical in certain situations (fewer dosings). Also think how Zambon for example made 2mg tablets. If most of that got destroyed by the liver it has to be one hell of a potent steroid since it's effective for anabolism at 6mg a day according to research. Injectable forms only avoid the first pass metabolism. The injectable will be metabolized by the liver also.

I'm going to look if I can find some equivalency chart on oral vs injectable.

Yea I tried to find a bit more info on this myself and didn't really turn up anymore than what you have already said, Now in the past i did use an oral winnie and it seemed to work really well, but I only did that once since I am not a real big fan of orals. Curious now though about the different routes of administration. Yes the liver gets a look at all the stuff we do but I think with inj the liver gets it later rather than sooner and the body has a chance to actually get some in before this.

 

[latman]

I just mix my winny in the same shot as a 1/2ml or 1ml of an oil steroid. It will seperate so I swirl it until the winny is smaller blobs and then the oil lubricates the needle so the water goes out it easier. just my two cents.
lat

 

[gymrat10]

Wow thats a lot of info. Sounds like injecting it is the way to go? Thanks for all the info and please let me know more if there is more to know. Im new to this site and already it has been a great help.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

WELL

YOU CAN DO EITHER..........

 

[PHIL HERNON]

ONE THING I KNOW.....

KILLERSTACK KNOWS HIS SHIT. I HAVE NEVER READ ONE THING HE HAS BEEN WRONG ABOUT YET.

 

[gravityfighter]

My HRT Doc said I could do either...the injections give me knots. Peace,GF

 

[scotty0129]

Found on another board

Here's an indication of how much "better" the injectable version is, if we assume the same results for humans:

"The effect of stanozolol on 15-nitrogen retention in the dog

Can J Vet Res 2000 Oct;64(4):246-8 (ISSN: 0830-9000)

Olson ME; Morck DW; Quinn KB [Find other articles with these Authors] Animal Health Unit and Gastrointestinal Sciences, University of Calgary, Alberta.

The objective of the study was to determine the influence of either oral or intramuscular administration of stanozolol on nitrogen retention in dogs by using a non-invasive 15N-amino acid tracer technique. Ten healthy, intact, adult male sled dogs received either stanozolol tablets, 2 mg/dog PO, q12h, for 25 days (Group 1, n = 5) or an intramuscular injection of 25 mg of stanozolol on Days 7, 14, 21, and 28 (Group 2, n = 5). A 15N amino acid (5.27 mmol) was infused intravenously into each dog on Day 0 (before stanozolol treatment) and on Day 31 (after stanozolol treatment). Urine was collected by catheterization from each animal 3 times daily for 3 consecutive days. The 15N-urea enrichment in urine was determined by high-resolution mass spectrometry and the total amount of urea in the urine was determined.

Both oral and injectable stanozolol resulted in significant (P < 0.05) increases in amino acid nitrogen retention compared to pretreatment values. Oral stanozolol increased nitrogen retention from 29.2 +/- 8.2% to 50.3 +/- 9.2%, while stanozolol injection increased nitrogen retention from 26.6 +/- 9.9% to 67.0 +/- 7.5%. The response to intramuscular administration was significantly greater than the response to the oral dosing regime. Stanozolol increases amino acid nitrogen retention in dogs, as has been previously observed in rats. This action of stanozolol may be beneficial in dogs under stress of surgical trauma and chronic disease."

 

[Ashop]

Anyone have experience with injecting Winstrol. I know it is pretty thick. ANy tricks. What gauge needle works best?

Zambons pass thru a 23-25 g for me. shake well,,,shoot fast.

 

[locutus61]

In the past I have tried drinking and all I will say is Got nowhere near the effectiveness of IM. So something doesn't work as well. I still think the liver is going to wipe out a great deal of it before your system gets it. That is why there is Inj stan and oral. There has to be a difference.

With due respect to your post count Bro, all winny is 17c alkylated. The difference is that when taking winny orally, it takes two passes through the liver for it to be metabolized. The injectable route is one pass. Injecting Winny is slightly more potent due to eliminating the first pass through the liver. This is the only difference. Peace.

 

[saguakid]

Winny should not be thick at all and the good stuff will flow through a slin pin,
you can use anything from a honking 22 ga. down to a slin
Probably best just to drink it.

I wondering how that taste like??lol