JOINT ISSUES--solutions, please

Polska · Oct 21, 2009

been training for 20 plus years...230 at 5-8. Im smart about cycling and diet, and train lighter now than when I was younger. My joints (hips, shoulder girdle, elbows) are fried.

MSM, glucosamine, Joint Elations...which is the best route to go?

Getting out of bed in the morning is a chore.

Please, suggestions.

VTliftVT · Oct 21, 2009

I'd try cissus and or glucosamine. You may also want to begin supplementing with fish oil which helps reduce inflammation and can ease joint pain as well.

walker11 · Oct 21, 2009

try chondroitin sulfate. i used glucosamine for a while for my shoulder and it was ok, but then i switched to a product called Jointment by Universal and it has both glucosamine and chondroitin in it and i haven't had a problem since.

BigDaddy_554 · Oct 21, 2009

I have a similar story with multiple injuries and what I found that works well is the following:

1 Animal Flex (Universal Nutrition), 1 tblsp Cher-Amino (Hydrolyzed Collagen -Twin Labs), and lots of water every day.

Badapple · Oct 21, 2009

Glucosamine takes a while to build up in your system, but over the long term will help you out. Try and catch a good sale at places like your grocery store where people will not shell out 30 bucks for a bottle and you might find it almost expired for a fraction of the cost. Most will have MSM and Chondroiten in the same pill. I noticed ease on my joints after about one month.

Cissus is great for a fast fix, but I would be careful with because of it's anelgesic effects(masking pain, similar to taking pain meds and not knowing when you are hurt). If you buy this in a powder form, shell out the 20 bucks and get a cap m quick because it tastes like shit.

alan1973 · Oct 21, 2009

once on, never go off, cuz 2 weeks later you'll be hurting!!!!
I use:
cissus
SAM-e
Glucosamine
CS
Hyaluronic acid
MSM
Multi-vit/min.
some others I cannot recall....i spend more on joint pain than any other supplement!

Polska · Oct 21, 2009

alan1973 said:
once on, never go off, cuz 2 weeks later you'll be hurting!!!!
I use:
cissus
SAM-e
Glucosamine
CS
Hyaluronic acid
MSM
Multi-vit/min.
some others I cannot recall....i spend more on joint pain than any other supplement!

wow thats a load!

alan1973 · Oct 21, 2009

Polska said:
wow thats a load!

Glucosamine
CS
Hyaluronic acid
MSM
are all in one supp.

alan1973 · Oct 21, 2009

i also take fish oil, cuz I don't really like fish.
I will eat raw salmon (2 to 4 pieces on sushi rice) maybe once a week and mackeral once a month at most.

thebrick · Oct 21, 2009

alan1973 said:
i also take fish oil, cuz I don't really like fish.
I will eat raw salmon (2 to 4 pieces on sushi rice) maybe once a week and mackeral once a month at most.

Yes. fish oil is a natural anti-flam. It helps me.

Shelby · Oct 21, 2009

Try "loading" the glucosamine at 3-4g per day for at least a couple weeks before dropping to the typical suggested dose of 1.5g per day.

joebig · Oct 21, 2009

alan1973 said:
once on, never go off, cuz 2 weeks later you'll be hurting!!!!
I use:
cissus
SAM-e
Glucosamine
CS
Hyaluronic acid
MSM
Multi-vit/min.
some others I cannot recall....i spend more on joint pain than any other supplement!

I take the exact joint stack as you and I still have been in pain. I havent been able to do any overhead movements for tris and heavy bench presses for atleast a year now. I even get ultrasound done at the chiro on my elbow tendon. Three weeks ago I got a cortisone shot in their and it did not help at all. Finally, I had another xray done on my elbow and it showed I have a bone spur. That is whats been causing all the pain. My only option now is surgery. I thought it would be a quick surgery where they go in the area and scope it with a laser. Well apparently, my dr is saying the spur is too big and hes gonna have to make a nice 2-3 inch incision and go in there to chill down the bone spur. It all sounds too risky to me. I wouldnt mind if he was able to use the laser but I dont want him making a big ass incision then risk having some of my tendon removed and messed with. So now, I am debating what I should do.

T TOTAL · Oct 21, 2009

Been training many years and despite lifting heavy ive been rather fortunate so far, other than occasional tendinitus in my elbows or a muscle strain. However ive found the 50% cissus 2am and 2pm to be very beneficial...

MrF884 · Oct 22, 2009

I use cissus at 9 caps a day until i begin to feel better then coast on 3 caps a day for another month. THe stuff works miracles for me

alan1973 · Oct 22, 2009

Shelby said:
Try "loading" the glucosamine at 3-4g per day for at least a couple weeks before dropping to the typical suggested dose of 1.5g per day.

most supps of this type now suggest loading for a week.....when the stuff was new, nothing was said about loading.

alan1973 · Oct 22, 2009

joebig said:
I take the exact joint stack as you and I still have been in pain. I havent been able to do any overhead movements for tris and heavy bench presses for atleast a year now. I even get ultrasound done at the chiro on my elbow tendon. Three weeks ago I got a cortisone shot in their and it did not help at all. Finally, I had another xray done on my elbow and it showed I have a bone spur. That is whats been causing all the pain. My only option now is surgery. I thought it would be a quick surgery where they go in the area and scope it with a laser. Well apparently, my dr is saying the spur is too big and hes gonna have to make a nice 2-3 inch incision and go in there to chill down the bone spur. It all sounds too risky to me. I wouldnt mind if he was able to use the laser but I dont want him making a big ass incision then risk having some of my tendon removed and messed with. So now, I am debating what I should do.

Bro, if you can afford it, do it.
this should not be risky at all, just gonna be very painful for a coupla weeks. but you should be back in the gym in 3 months tops.