Fertility issues

[Slr722]

My decisions have caught up with me and now I have no sperm and I’m trying to have a kid.

Background was on AAS from 2013 to mid January this year. Tried everything during that time, from peptides, SARMS, GH and methyl Tren.

After coming off I started clomid 50mg, Nolva 20mg, adex 1mg till start of March. Got bloods done and had a .7 FSH and .5 LH with almost no test or estrogen. Semen analysis also showed no sperm.

Start of March I added HCG at 2500iu every other day on top of everything else.

Took Nolva down to 10mg mid May and then off it by end of June.

Got blood work done again end of June. Test levels were 190, estrogen almost none, LH 2.0, FSH 2.3, SBHG 62.2 and free test 2.0. Did a semen analysis right after and had no sperm yet again.

I’ve since upped my HCG to 5000iu every other day and decreased adex to 2x a week 1mg Sunday and 1mg Thursday.

FYI: I am working with a doc who only prescribed me hcg 3000iu 3x a week and clomid 25mg since March. I asked him if taking more hcg or clomid would have a negative effect and he said no, however the doses he prescribed is what was used in studies. Doctor did say that he has seen sperm take up to 18 months post AAS to recover.

For anyone who has been in my shoes how long did it take for your sperm to come back? Does anyone have any experience with HMG? I was looking to add it in at 75iu 3x a week. Maybe add rFSH as well? For HMG and rFSH I would have to go the research chem route.

 

[SouthernMuscle]

Have you read any of the fertility threads

 

[specter]

i never understand why ppl think its a great idea to crash their system while trying to get fertility up...

 

[Dumbbell2008]

You were on continuously since 2013? Any hcg use during that time?

 

[Bio-hazard]

I was in the same boat. Had zero sperm. Went to a fertility clinic and it has taken me 10 months of taking ZERO testosterone, 12.5mg enclomiphene, 9,000iu HCG and FSH (can't remember the dose off top of my head) and after 9months I finally had enough sperm to do IUI with my wife.

 

[Y_ASK_Y]

Add hmg

 

[Flex500]

My decisions have caught up with me and now I have no sperm and I’m trying to have a kid.

Background was on AAS from 2013 to mid January this year. Tried everything during that time, from peptides, SARMS, GH and methyl Tren.

After coming off I started clomid 50mg, Nolva 20mg, adex 1mg till start of March. Got bloods done and had a .7 FSH and .5 LH with almost no test or estrogen. Semen analysis also showed no sperm.

Start of March I added HCG at 2500iu every other day on top of everything else.

Took Nolva down to 10mg mid May and then off it by end of June.

Got blood work done again end of June. Test levels were 190, estrogen almost none, LH 2.0, FSH 2.3, SBHG 62.2 and free test 2.0. Did a semen analysis right after and had no sperm yet again.

I’ve since upped my HCG to 5000iu every other day and decreased adex to 2x a week 1mg Sunday and 1mg Thursday.

FYI: I am working with a doc who only prescribed me hcg 3000iu 3x a week and clomid 25mg since March. I asked him if taking more hcg or clomid would have a negative effect and he said no, however the doses he prescribed is what was used in studies. Doctor did say that he has seen sperm take up to 18 months post AAS to recover.

For anyone who has been in my shoes how long did it take for your sperm to come back? Does anyone have any experience with HMG? I was looking to add it in at 75iu 3x a week. Maybe add rFSH as well? For HMG and rFSH I would have to go the research chem route.

I made this thread in Oct 2021. It had been a decade since we had our first kid and after that decade of trt or more we wanted one more kid and I had ZERO sperm. We have a little guy turning two in September.

TRT + Fertility Protocol, and Few Questions

Hey All- I've read (dissected) every fertility thread but a few questions remain and my situation seems a bit different than some others. Here is my quick summary: On trt since our first child 9 years ago (140mgs/week). Sperm count was 225M+ back then. Wife and I interested in having a 2nd so I...

www.professionalmuscle.com

Do you know if you were fertile before using? If you were then I almost 100% guarantee you will restore. It does take time though. I came off trt cold turkey in May of 2021. I made that thread at the end of october....6 months later as I felt like crap and was getting super fustrated.

• May 2021...came off suddenly...cold turkey
• June/July- no sperm
• Late August- ~20m (really was only using HCG and just started HMG
• November 2021- 150m+ count! (I kept with the HCG but really ramped up HMG)
• Conceived in January...born in September

HMG is the magic man. My biggest regret is I would not have waited so long to hit the HMG. As soon as I did my count exploded.

I have now been back on TRT since July of 2021 and just did an at home "vesicostomy checker" test and two tests confirmed I have no sperm again. I was just curious, and this is the expected results, of course.

 

[specter]

Nvm re read 0 sperm..

 

[TheOtherOne55]

You NEED HMG. There is no way around it.

HCG will work, but it will be slow and youll end up debating over what dose and when and allll that other shit.
HMG is 1000% needed. EVERY BBer i know who has had a child in the last 5 years HAD to take HMG.

 

[cage99]

HMG is your missing link here as others have mentioned.

With that said I’ve been un-natural for decades and recently slipped one past the goalie.. I literally mean one!!!!! Lil determined fucker should’ve taken a right instead of a left!!!! Asshole!

The pregnancy didn’t last though… Wifey suffered a miscarriage at 10 weeks. I’ve got mixed emotions with all this… Anyways was running 1g Test & 300mg Tren at the time.

Good luck with your fertility. It will be restored. You just got to be patient and take the necessary goodies!

Cage

 

[danieltx]

HMG is your missing link here as others have mentioned.

With that said I’ve been un-natural for decades and recently slipped one past the goalie.. I literally mean one!!!!! Lil determined fucker should’ve taken a right instead of a left!!!! Asshole!

The pregnancy didn’t last though… Wifey suffered a miscarriage at 10 weeks. I’ve got mixed emotions with all this… Anyways was running 1g Test & 300mg Tren at the time.

Good luck with your fertility. It will be restored. You just got to be patient and take the necessary goodies!

Cage

I had a similar experience - unplanned pregnancy on 1g of test and 700mg NPP. She miscarried at 13 weeks.

 

[Flex500]

HMG is your missing link here as others have mentioned.

With that said I’ve been un-natural for decades and recently slipped one past the goalie.. I literally mean one!!!!! Lil determined fucker should’ve taken a right instead of a left!!!! Asshole!

The pregnancy didn’t last though… Wifey suffered a miscarriage at 10 weeks. I’ve got mixed emotions with all this… Anyways was running 1g Test & 300mg Tren at the time.

Good luck with your fertility. It will be restored. You just got to be patient and take the necessary goodies!

Cage

wow! Sorry to hear that. I can understand the mixed emotions. For me, I am either 100% shut down and no sperm, but I was able to come back at a peak of 200m+ sperm after a solid HCG HMG protocol.

My wife and I are still "careful" and not reckless (we do NOT want more kids) but I take a "vasectomy checker" test every 6 months lol. I had a "real" SA done at the doctor and literally had nothing.

 

[cage99]

Yeah I had an SA done at a fertility clinic about 10yrs ago. My lil soldiers were abysmal; extremely low and low motility back then. Was told a pregnancy was extremely unlikely. Course I didn’t truly pursue trying to resurrect my boys either!

Just had that one determined little fucker trying to prove a point! I’m getting too old to be a dad again, so I’m glad I’m not starting over again. But also it would be nice to give my wife a baby of her own. Either way it was coming and we were both nervous/excited. Just ended in a shitty way. I feel for the wife cause she’s not taking it very well. One day at a time.

I’m too much of a bitch to have a scalpel on my nuts so a vasectomy isn’t on my to do list. Soooooo back to rubbers again.. God dammit!!!! I have a hard time getting off in the first place for fucks sake! #FML!

Cage

 

[cage99]

I had a similar experience - unplanned pregnancy on 1g of test and 700mg NPP. She miscarried at 13 weeks.

Sorry to hear boss! My wife has been taking it hard.. So it’s hasn’t been very pleasant around the house lately due to this…. Back to practicing safe sex again.

Cage

 

[Slr722]

You were on continuously since 2013? Any hcg use during that time?

Came off for few months after first cycle end of summer 2013 then back on January or 2014. Never came off after that till this January. Used 5000iu of hcg once, so virtually none.

I was in the same boat. Had zero sperm. Went to a fertility clinic and it has taken me 10 months of taking ZERO testosterone, 12.5mg enclomiphene, 9,000iu HCG and FSH (can't remember the dose off top of my head) and after 9months I finally had enough sperm to do IUI with my wife.

Where did you get the FSH from? I’ve only found one place online and it’s expensive.

I made this thread in Oct 2021. It had been a decade since we had our first kid and after that decade of trt or more we wanted one more kid and I had ZERO sperm. We have a little guy turning two in September.

TRT + Fertility Protocol, and Few Questions

Hey All- I've read (dissected) every fertility thread but a few questions remain and my situation seems a bit different than some others. Here is my quick summary: On trt since our first child 9 years ago (140mgs/week). Sperm count was 225M+ back then. Wife and I interested in having a 2nd so I...

www.professionalmuscle.com

Do you know if you were fertile before using? If you were then I almost 100% guarantee you will restore. It does take time though. I came off trt cold turkey in May of 2021. I made that thread at the end of october....6 months later as I felt like crap and was getting super fustrated.

• May 2021...came off suddenly...cold turkey
• June/July- no sperm
• Late August- ~20m (really was only using HCG and just started HMG
• November 2021- 150m+ count! (I kept with the HCG but really ramped up HMG)
• Conceived in January...born in September

HMG is the magic man. My biggest regret is I would not have waited so long to hit the HMG. As soon as I did my count exploded.

I have now been back on TRT since July of 2021 and just did an at home "vesicostomy checker" test and two tests confirmed I have no sperm again. I was just curious, and this is the expected results, of course.

I’ll be adding HMG just have to make sure the places I found it have legit HMG. I PMed you.

Seems that the consensus is to take HMG now and not wait. To make matters worse my wife has blocked tubes so we have to do IVF.

 

[Flex500]

Yeah I had an SA done at a fertility clinic about 10yrs ago. My lil soldiers were abysmal; extremely low and low motility back then. Was told a pregnancy was extremely unlikely. Course I didn’t truly pursue trying to resurrect my boys either!

Just had that one determined little fucker trying to prove a point! I’m getting too old to be a dad again, so I’m glad I’m not starting over again. But also it would be nice to give my wife a baby of her own. Either way it was coming and we were both nervous/excited. Just ended in a shitty way. I feel for the wife cause she’s not taking it very well. One day at a time.

I’m too much of a bitch to have a scalpel on my nuts so a vasectomy isn’t on my to do list. Soooooo back to rubbers again.. God dammit!!!! I have a hard time getting off in the first place for fucks sake! #FML!

Cage

Got it...well I am sorry to hear that then. Sounds like your wife (and you if I'm reading between the lines) aren't opposed to it and thats a tough thing for her to go through.

I actually didn't have a vasectomy, but back on TRT and I just check here and there to make sure I am not producing. We actually also use a rubber anytime near ovulation lol. My wife cannot take birth control and I'd rather her not anyway.

 

[Fly Ricky]

You need to add HMG. I was in a similar situation as you after a decade of use. I added HMG while staying on trt. My cout went from 0 to 20 million in a couple months. Going for another SA soon to see what its at now.

 

[TheOtherOne55]

You need to add HMG. I was in a similar situation as you after a decade of use. I added HMG while staying on trt. My cout went from 0 to 20 million in a couple months. Going for another SA soon to see what its at now.

This.

I went from 2 million to 40 with hmg + hcg and staying on trt. You basically have to take this shit and ride it out for like 3-5 months to really test and see where you're at.

 

[fisther69]

I’ve literally ran hcg since my first cycle in my mid teens..but only because i thought it was hgh..I’m an idiot.

Sperm is rocking though..I have 2 kids and my wife want a 3rd..I told her I would have a 3rd child..just not with her

 

[Bio-hazard]

I'm going to a fertility doctor so it's prescribed to me. Not cheap at all and insurance doesn't cover any of it.