Kidney Function

[bdp]

Hello --

I got my blood results back today and after reviewing them and compairing them to last years test it looks like Im having high creatinine levels and low grf (glom filtration rate) levels.

They are as follows:

2009
Creatinine, serum ---- 1.55 (normal is .76-1.27)
GFR ----- 54 (normal over 59)

2008
creatinine ---- 1.71
GRF ---- 48

He has reccomended me to see a kidney specialist. And I will, but Im wondering what may cause this. Is there anything I can take to help out these levels to improve them.

In 2008, I was off for 6 weeks. in 2009 im on, using 750mg test and 77mg tren eod.

Also my cholesterol is good in total but my hdl is low at 22... I have been using a good cholesterol stack with humanofort, red yeast, flush free niacin, kyolic garlic

The levels mentioned are a little off, but he was concerned for some one my age (28) and mentioned its important to follow up with this.

Please any thoughts is appreciated.

Thanks

 

[PHIL HERNON]

WELL

Hello --

I got my blood results back today and after reviewing them and compairing them to last years test it looks like Im having high creatinine levels and low grf (glom filtration rate) levels.

They are as follows:

2009
Creatinine, serum ---- 1.55 (normal is .76-1.27)
GFR ----- 54 (normal over 59)

2008
creatinine ---- 1.71
GRF ---- 48

He has reccomended me to see a kidney specialist. And I will, but Im wondering what may cause this. Is there anything I can take to help out these levels to improve them.

In 2008, I was off for 6 weeks. in 2009 im on, using 750mg test and 77mg tren eod.

Also my cholesterol is good in total but my hdl is low at 22... I have been using a good cholesterol stack with humanofort, red yeast, flush free niacin, kyolic garlic

The levels mentioned are a little off, but he was concerned for some one my age (28) and mentioned its important to follow up with this.

Please any thoughts is appreciated.

Thanks

I COULD GO OVER 1000 DIFFERENT SCEANRIOS AND SPEND HOURS SPECULATING........GO TO A NEPHROLOGIST.

 

[TheCure]

I'd be interested to hear what the doctor says.
My eGFR was just recently 52, and creatinine 132.

i was taking tren too. first time this last year. also first time my blood tests are off. Coincidence? maybe. i just did a few 2 1/2 month cycles.

i just did a followup urine 24h clearance test (got to pee in a bucket for 24 hours-yeaaa!) . waiting nervously for the results.

 

[T TOTAL]

My bloods were generally ok.... Then i tried tren and they went up, came back down after dropping it. The following year i tried it again and again they went up. Came off and guess what....yep they went back down again..
ASfter they went up the Dr sent me for a stomach scan and everything came back 100% froom the scan. Then had the bloods re done and because they had dropped the Dr had no concerns and wrote me off as fit and healthy.

There may of been other factors involved but that seemed to be the only element i changed with any significance, ie stopped its use. As previous post is this coincidence???

 

[Quad-smack]

i was taking tren too. first time this last year. also first time my blood tests are off. Coincidence? maybe.

Probably not. Most people don't appreciate how powerful tren is.

 

[Quad-smack]

In 2008, I was off for 6 weeks. in 2009 im on, using 750mg test and 77mg tren eod.

Also my cholesterol is good in total but my hdl is low at 22... I have been using a good cholesterol stack with humanofort, red yeast, flush free niacin, kyolic garlic

The levels mentioned are a little off, but he was concerned for some one my age (28) and mentioned its important to follow up with this.

Please any thoughts is appreciated.

Thanks

Personally, I would re-evaluate and think hard and long about wether my health was worth the trade-off in results.
I was in a similar situation not too long ago. I was at 243 total cholesterol with 205 LDL and 23 HDL. Now a year later I am at 163 total, 108 LDL and 44 HDL. I used daily:
1200mg Red Yeast Rice (Natures Plus or Hi-Tech are most potent)
6g Fish oil
500mg Nicotinic Acid - immediate release niacin
2000 iu Vitamin D3
1 Tablespoon of Lecithin in one of my shakes.

As far as kidneys go - do them a favor and find something other than tren.
Best wishes for a positive outcome.

 

[king1033]

yea i agree tren can be a lot of fun but at a cost, i have run tren three times this year first time 75 mg eod for 6 weeks took 10 weeks off (was on test still) second time i ran it i couldnt handle the sides as easy as i could the first time and cut it short at week 4, now im running trenadrol for the third go around so if i decided to stop all i have to do is stop popping a pill, although i perfer the injection method more, but same here my blood tests everything went up after i came off tren and remained on test at a trt dose everything came back to normal. i wish the best of luck to you and your health

 

[TheCure]

results update

Just got my urinalysis/bloodwork where they measured kidney values.
My eGFR is back to 72 again (where it was a year or so ago). Creatinine is down to 104.

I stopped PCT, creatine, excessive protein, and drank alot of water before taking this last test.

I seem to have the same good results as BRABUS - values came back after cessation.

One last question... Although my creatinine is back at 72, i still would like to see it higher. I also understand people of higher musculature tend to have higher creatinine values which doesnt mean any damage is present.

I am 5'8" 205lbs maybe 11-12%. Does anyone else with similar stats have values around this area? Or mine are still low compared with you guys?

 

[evolutionX]

Just a side note, 3 things increase HDL GH, Nolvadex & Clenbuterol.

 

[bdp]

follow up

so, I have an appointment to visit a kidney specialist in two weeks... I guess they are booked up.

Last year when I had the test done I had not used tren... although this time I am. Point is; if there is a culprit Im not sure tren is the cause... maybe Im wrong.

Should I tell the kidney specialist that Im "on" I didnt tell my other Dr... I told him I was on supplements including herbal and other vitamins....

Is there anything I can take to improve my kidney function... from a holistic standpoint?

Thanks

 

[machola]

Hello --

I got my blood results back today and after reviewing them and compairing them to last years test it looks like Im having high creatinine levels and low grf (glom filtration rate) levels.

They are as follows:

2009
Creatinine, serum ---- 1.55 (normal is .76-1.27)
GFR ----- 54 (normal over 59)

2008with these levels in 2008 you should have stopped whatever you were taking
creatinine ---- 1.71
GRF ---- 48

He has reccomended me to see a kidney specialist. And I will, but Im wondering what may cause this. Is there anything I can take to help out these levels to improve them.

In 2008, I was off for 6 weeks. in 2009 im on, using 750mg test and 77mg tren eod.

Also my cholesterol is good in total but my hdl is low at 22... I have been using a good cholesterol stack with humanofort, red yeast, flush free niacin, kyolic garlic
you're killing yourself. you must understand that
The levels mentioned are a little off, but he was concerned for some one my age (28) and mentioned its important to follow up with this.

Please any thoughts is appreciated.
my thoughts... get off the drugs. they are killing you. i read your post and this is what i see. "i'm taking large amounts of these drugs. why am i so sick?"... red yeast rice and niacin are obviously not working for you. you need to drop the aas. but imo your liver is the least of your problems. they regenerate well. kidney failure is the end. if you lose that its 3hrs/day hooked up to dialysis with restricted calories and fluid either until your name comes up for transplant(if you're lucky) or death. i normally leave my emotions out of my posts but you need a slap of reality
Thanks

so, I have an appointment to visit a kidney specialist in two weeks... I guess they are booked up.

Last year when I had the test done I had not used tren... although this time I am. Point is; if there is a culprit Im not sure tren is the cause... maybe Im wrong.
you had kidney issues last year and before it was rectified you used aas. thats like smoking with a tracheostomy...
Should I tell the kidney specialist that Im "on" I didnt tell my other Dr... I told him I was on supplements including herbal and other vitamins....
if you don't tell the truth you're wasting your time and his
Is there anything I can take to improve my kidney function... from a holistic standpoint?
not that im aware of. even if there is one that is marketed for it i wouldnt believe it without clinical studies
Thanks

God helps those who help themselves

 

[emeric delczeg]

Hello --

I got my blood results back today and after reviewing them and compairing them to last years test it looks like Im having high creatinine levels and low grf (glom filtration rate) levels.

They are as follows:

2009
Creatinine, serum ---- 1.55 (normal is .76-1.27)
GFR ----- 54 (normal over 59)

2008
creatinine ---- 1.71
GRF ---- 48

He has reccomended me to see a kidney specialist. And I will, but Im wondering what may cause this. Is there anything I can take to help out these levels to improve them.

In 2008, I was off for 6 weeks. in 2009 im on, using 750mg test and 77mg tren eod.

Also my cholesterol is good in total but my hdl is low at 22... I have been using a good cholesterol stack with humanofort, red yeast, flush free niacin, kyolic garlic

The levels mentioned are a little off, but he was concerned for some one my age (28) and mentioned its important to follow up with this.

Please any thoughts is appreciated.

Thanks

Your HDL it will be in good range in few more weeks, just kip taking those supplements, for your kidney recovery, I wold stop taking any product with creatin, eat clean proteins (no flavored or atificial sweetned) edd 1 teaspoon apple cider vineger to your glas of drinking water every time you drink , no pepsi or other tip of soda. No orals ever agent.

 

[eroc613]

God helps those who help themselves

Is this church? Thanks Almighty..

 

[machola]

Is this church? Thanks Almighty..

the lord is with thee ... no. i answered everything in the quotes but vbullitin requires you to type something not in quotes so i thought an inspirational quote would do

 

[bdp]

Kidney follow up...

So according to the Dr... I am a stage 3 for kidney failure (stages 1-6) so moderate...

I will be going for ultra sound to see if there are any obstructions, and a few more tests. My BP is high as well 140/90

Perhaps its stress? I have stopped tren and according to searches tren is typically a culprit as well as some orals.

Supposedly deca can help kidney function...?

I have a link below that is very informational in regards to kidney function, and I suggest everyone look and get blood tests regularily to check your function.

**broken link removed**

I have always drank about a gallon a day, and maintained a healthy lifestyle.

I will be going for accupuncture next week, and although I am skeptical... There arent many choices for treatment besides excersize, diet, and water intake.

I would appreciate any other thoughts?

I do about a cycle a year, so I am not excessive imo... I will drop my test to 500mg/wk

Thanks for all of your input and god bless

 

[emeric delczeg]

Hello --

I got my blood results back today and after reviewing them and compairing them to last years test it looks like Im having high creatinine levels and low grf (glom filtration rate) levels.

They are as follows:

2009
Creatinine, serum ---- 1.55 (normal is .76-1.27)
GFR ----- 54 (normal over 59)

2008
creatinine ---- 1.71
GRF ---- 48

He has reccomended me to see a kidney specialist. And I will, but Im wondering what may cause this. Is there anything I can take to help out these levels to improve them.

In 2008, I was off for 6 weeks. in 2009 im on, using 750mg test and 77mg tren eod.

Also my cholesterol is good in total but my hdl is low at 22... I have been using a good cholesterol stack with humanofort, red yeast, flush free niacin, kyolic garlic

The levels mentioned are a little off, but he was concerned for some one my age (28) and mentioned its important to follow up with this.

Please any thoughts is appreciated.

Thanks

You levels are better than in 2008, and is not life threatening, just relax don`t panic. I would stop taking test and tren togheter, I would take only test for 4 more weeks than have a new test. Whay are you taking 750mg test per week? did you mention to the MD that you are on tren?

 

[emeric delczeg]

So according to the Dr... I am a stage 3 for kidney failure (stages 1-6) so moderate...

I will be going for ultra sound to see if there are any obstructions, and a few more tests. My BP is high as well 140/90

Perhaps its stress? I have stopped tren and according to searches tren is typically a culprit as well as some orals.

Supposedly deca can help kidney function...?

I have a link below that is very informational in regards to kidney function, and I suggest everyone look and get blood tests regularily to check your function.

**broken link removed**

I have always drank about a gallon a day, and maintained a healthy lifestyle.

I will be going for accupuncture next week, and although I am skeptical... There arent many choices for treatment besides excersize, diet, and water intake.

I would appreciate any other thoughts?

I do about a cycle a year, so I am not excessive imo... I will drop my test to 500mg/wk

Thanks for all of your input and god bless

You need to go lower than 500mg / wk , if I would be in your situation, I would go down to 150mg/wk (3 X 50mg ) AAS should be just a small part of your bodybuilding program, diet and training should be the main focus.

 

[paulwigan]

have you spoken to him about diet.
my nephrologist told me 150mg of protein absolute max.
no prtein drinks at all or 16oz steaks.

high blood pressure just accelerates the condition.

have you had a biopsy? my bloods show normal but biopsy showed large amounts of damage

 

[bdp]

I didnt mention I was on tren or any AAS.... Im not panicing, I know its not life threatening but it can lead to it life threatening conditions later.

I will continue to lower the test.

Do you think GH will help or hurt or have no implication on the condition?

I will be having a ultrasound but as of right now, no biopsy

I will keep you posted, Thank you for your help and concerns

 

[paulwigan]

you wont know true picture until after biopsy.