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Little of Lots or lots of little?

we must also consider that the receptors in our body are not infinite.
if you use an aggressive product like tren, and combine something mild like primo, primo will most likely be wasted because the receptors will all be taken by tren.
at lower doses these two can coexist and the effect will be precisely of the two products together and not just of the tren.

knowing how to combine products in synergy, AR with NON-AR products, doses, times, etc. It's all part of the formula
 
I don't know how you can state it's silly to take more than 2 or 3 compounds. As I have posted I have experimented so extensively and I respond badly to certain compounds so how is it silly if I run 3 or even 4 compounds and get better results and less side effects. An example could be say someone wants to look their best and feels great on 200mg tren but horrible with 600mg and they feel great with 40mg avar but not 80mg and they feel great on 300mg test but not with high doses. How is it silly for him to run 300mg test, 200mg tren and 40mg avar instead of 700mg test and 500mg tren. Say he feels crap on 500mg mast and he even adds that in at 200mg and it's a 4th compound but it compliments his cycle nicely. Is that even more silly because he is running 4 compounds. No one is stating run 50mg of 10 compounds but each compound is different and some people can benefit from running more than 1 or 2 at times.

You think most people would do best with 200-400mg total of 1-2 compounds yes they would if they want to be 200 pounds and look shredded on a beach. What about the guys wanting to be 250 pounds and shredded. What about guys competing at a high level. What about guys who make money from their physiques. Guys who wants to be huge and ripped. Guys who want to be their best possible. I think to state it's silly for people run run multiple compounds is ridiculous. No one is stating a guy should use 50mg of a, 100mg of b, 50mg of c, 50mg of d, 40mg of e etc... that could be over the top but if it works for him it's not exactly silly.

Lot's of people reinvent the wheel and are over the top but this is different. Fact is most of the guys I know who look amazing run multiple compounds at certain times and there is reason for that. Yes they could look amazing running test and hgh but there is a reason why all of them are running at least 3 compounds when they are looking their absolute best. For me it could be test, tren and avar. Then you have hgh, insulin, l-carnitine etc. This is promuscle and many of us want to look freaky. If a guy wants to be lean and athletic then great and he could run just test but even most of those guys are running multiple compounds as well and they do that because they usually look better doing it that way.



Of course there has to be a min dose to illicit a benefit. It's also very smart using the lowest possible dose if health is a priority. Some people run low doses due to health but often it's also because of side effects. You are overthinking this and it's really simple. I don't want to state you can't get results using certain compounds at very low doses because any dose is more than none. However anyone who has experimented and understands this stuff realizes there are big differences between compounds. No one is stating to use 10mg primo daily for good reason. Fact is 10mg tren daily can make a difference and it's worth trying but most AAS do need to be dosed higher. Could a natural dose 10mg test... yes but most males naturally produce 7-10mg per day (unless they are old) so what's the point. Obviously TRT is different and many dose 10mg per day and that is perfectly fine but a natural guy shouldn't cycle 10mg per day to build muscle because it's likely just replacing his natural test and it would be very pointless unless he medically needed testosterone. We aren't producing 10mg tren a daily naturally :D Could someone run 10mg primo and get results... yes... but most people realize they will likely need atleast double that to get noticeable results. Guys wanting to be huge and ripped will likely have to use much more.

No one is going to state microdosing HGH is beneficial (well one person on here does) because it's pretty much a waste of time. Yes you could run 1iu and have some effect but it's a waste of an injection. I am not one of those people who think you need to use high amounts either. 80% of the time I have used HGH I have only used 2-3iu per day. Now if you are 60 years old then sure dose 1iu but for a healthy younger male you are going to have to dose it higher to get a decent response. There are people who use very low doses of insulin. Loads of people use 3iu slin especially on this forum. Although again anyone who has used it would know 5-10iu is more of a worthwhile dose and goes better with what most people eat when trying to build muscle. It's comparing apples to oranges and very silly.
When I say silly say the example you gave . If someone has small dosages of certain drugs they like rotate

Rather than 100 test 100 mast 100 tren 100 npp

200 test/200 tren...then swap tren for 200 npp, etc. Total mg is the same. I just think at some point it becomes ocd people stacking 5 drugs at smaller dosages. Like you said we should all have a few we tolerate and prefer, stick to those, no need to work in the less tolerable ones and having to lower the dosages of the more tolerable ones to keep a certain mg. Would be the same for a skinny lean or big guy, just the dosage and food would be higher. I'd say anyone at 250 has identified drugs they do tolerate well keep them as the bread and butter 10mg. If a big guy is dead set in only running x amount but wants to get bigger, find the best 1 or 2 compounds to hit that dose than rather than manipulating tiny dosages of other AAS focus on training, diet, etc. We assume because someone is huge diet is spot on and training but we see threads people training 2 days a week, not sleeping, posting food porn etc. I think in general we focus too much on drugs. Bigger dose = more size usually but ratio changes imo are a very minute detail of the big picture.
 
I've been interested to do a run of like..


20mg Dbol, 20mg winny, 20mg anavar, 10mg superdrol, 50 anadrol, 300mg tren, 500mg test, 600mg deca, 400mg eq

Or something along those lines just to see what would happen

But I've found high doses of Test alone seem to work best for most purposes, with Tren being better for when you are lean and want to look freaky, and Deca being good for a change up every once in. Awhile
 
we must also consider that the receptors in our body are not infinite.
if you use an aggressive product like tren, and combine something mild like primo, primo will most likely be wasted because the receptors will all be taken by tren.
at lower doses these two can coexist and the effect will be precisely of the two products together and not just of the tren.

knowing how to combine products in synergy, AR with NON-AR products, doses, times, etc. It's all part of the formula
Probably the dumbest shit I’ve seen on here today.
 
IMO 3 compounds for me max. Everyone is free to make their own choices on what to run.

When bulk cycling I love Deca. Here I run test 375-500mg, 300mg Deca, and 300mg Mast E.

I respond really well the Deca and NPP at low doses so I never get sides. If I go any higher with my Deca dose I put on a lot of water and that messes with my BP.

Cutting I like test at 300-500mg, 300mg NPP, 300mg Mast E or P. I also like dropping the NPP and adding in Primo E at 400mg EW with 375mg test, 200mg Mast E while cutting.

I also always run 25-50mg of provi daily.

Not too big on other orals. Occasionally I’ll throw in some Tbol or Var.
 
Probably the dumbest shit I’ve seen on here today.
probably the dumbest dumb newbie I've seen here...
all this life.

No.. wait... maybe you can enlighten us.

what's wrong with my sentence?
do you think you have infinite receptors?
do you think the products bind to the receptors in the same way?
argue and explain instead of just saying nonsense.

we hear your wisdom
 
probably the dumbest dumb newbie I've seen here...
all this life.

No.. wait... maybe you can enlighten us.

what's wrong with my sentence?
do you think you have infinite receptors?
do you think the products bind to the receptors in the same way?
argue and explain instead of just saying nonsense.

we hear your wisdom
They upregulate with more aas.. if someone is running tren and primo, which is a very common stack, the primo is not just getting pissed out because of the tren in there.


So again your post is stupid and I’m sure many here will agree.
 
Testosterone is amazing. Guess when you get to the upper levels you have to find ways to minimize sides while upping dosages but for me it test all the time and a little mast in the summer time to look like a statue. I'm little and respond well to limited dosages. (Currently 500 T and growing like a week).
 
Testosterone is amazing. Guess when you get to the upper levels you have to find ways to minimize sides while upping dosages but for me it test all the time and a little mast in the summer time to look like a statue. I'm little and respond well to limited dosages. (Currently 500 T and growing like a week).
Test / mast is my favorite hassle free cycle. Can grow or cut just fine on it.
 
They upregulate with more aas.. if someone is running tren and primo, which is a very common stack, the primo is not just getting pissed out because of the tren in there.


So again your post is stupid and I’m sure many here will agree.
oh god...wasted time.

have a good day
 
When I was trying to grow I would find the middle of both. 300-500mgs of test and 200-400 mgs of 1-2 other drugs with a total drug burden around 1,000. Actually, I guess in the context of growing and competing that would go in the category of lot of drugs with little doses. When I was competing and growing I'd often do 300-500 test, 100-200 tren, and 300-400 deca and just swap out the anabolics. Maybe then go do EQ and mast or deca and an oral, etc. etc.

As for the micro-dosing, I think that is because you are seeing a lot more folks like me who are in the boat of "I want to look my best on 150mgs total drug burden a week" so they are trying to microdose various things. I mean for me I need 70mgs of test to feel good and normal and that leaves me with about 80mgs of total drugs to play with. 150 is an arbitrary number, of course, but that is where I decided to put my governor because I've never taken that little of any drug and had bad bloods. I guess maybe if I did 150 of only tren but I wouldn't do that anyway.

I do think people are overcomplicating it, but I mean in my shoes I'm absolutely thinking of trying this a week...
100 test
25 tren
25 mast

or

100 test
25 dbol
25 tren

that's pretty insane and most would say stupid and useless but hell...I'm 40 and I unequivocally am on 2 years of no more than 150mgs of total burden and I will never go over that again so what do I have to lose?
 

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