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J_Diggs

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Viagra :p


Seriously though, have you tried something like clen? You won't gain weight but you also might lose it. It will harden you up though. Winny is also decent and shouldn't add weight, but without knowing your current bf% it would be difficult to recommend.
 

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Seriously though, have you tried something like clen? You won't gain weight but you also might lose it. It will harden you up though. Winny is also decent and shouldn't add weight, but without knowing your current bf% it would be difficult to recommend.
clen make me lose th desire to eat big time,i,m not willing to use winny because i heard bad store of user getting hurt,cant get hurt again.i,m 5,8 not much fat how much not sure just sightly fat i ld say around 10 % gv r take.looking to be able to work out hard untill my fight thn being clean,i hv to work out long and hard and i,m old 40 just want to fight th one guy tht i lost to only lost in over 20 yrs,it hard for me to eat now so clen isnt good for me.u need more info just ask,and ty
 

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clen make me lose th desire to eat big time,i,m not willing to use winny because i heard bad store of user getting hurt,cant get hurt again.i,m 5,8 not much fat how much not sure just sightly fat i ld say around 10 % gv r take.looking to be able to work out hard untill my fight thn being clean,i hv to work out long and hard and i,m old 40 just want to fight th one guy tht i lost to only lost in over 20 yrs,it hard for me to eat now so clen isnt good for me.u need more info just ask,and ty
Not sure what type of fighting you do but I would agree, stay away from Winny if you do fight! You'll notice you're joints aching a bit and I doubt you want any weakening here for what you do.

Two weeks ago I added 40mg/day of Anavar to my cycle and I'm starting to see more muscle striation in addition to much more vascularity. Strength and endurance is up big. I haven't gained 1lb but am converting fat to lean muscle. It's just another thought and it might work for your situation.
 

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i agree that fighters and any impact type athletes should give serious thought before using winny. anavar is a better alternative, but more expensive. the thing with anavar is it affects many peoples appetites also. i do notice that my appetite is always better when i use a good quality liver protectorant. anavar, test, proviron cycle is a nice gentle cycle .
 

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I agree totally. I fight also. HGH ( 2 to 3 iu per day) and anavar. liver aid and b-12 injectable will help with the appetite a lot.It really depends on when ur fight is to. u could run some prop and npp and get some mild lean gains and cut some body fat and run some sprints and distance running to cut of what you dont need for your fight. If your a fighter i Know that you know that sprints do wonders for your ring cardio.
 

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I guess it really and mostly depends on your time frame. That was just my 2 cents . Im a beginner in this stuff but been fighting awhile
 

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just my personal opinion


but i would not go near clen



it is a worthless compound and will make you feel like garbage



use some eq......and watch your cals......incorporate some treadmill.....elliptical.....stepmill.....etc.......but stay away from clen.....i always felt aweful on that trash......don't waste your hard earned dollar.
 

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