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ok guys correct me if this will be unhealthy and non sucessful
i was going to do just fruits and veggies as my diet throughout the day and a few cans or pieces of fish for dinner and then fruit or veggie for snack. I also plan to drink a few glasses of skim milk.

why am idoing this
i have tried to diet before and have not had any luck. I have kept my calories under 2000 and i work out 4 days a week and cardio every day for atleast 20 minutes.

im figuring with the fruit and veggies and fish )or some sort of protien) i will decrease my caloric intake a lot.

let me know what you think
 
I would say you need to dial down on what your eating. If you join this site www.fitday.com (its free) you can load in what your eating and get an accurate picture of what your eatin as opposed to guessing.

Also, fruit can contain alot of natural sugars. Be careful.

my 2 cents
 
Gidday Subby,


I would stay away from process cans etc. You mention fruit and vegies but what kind of vegies? Vegies that contain starch? Fruit contains sucrose....
I would cut down on the skim milk if I was you, and drink more water instead.

My diet is, I stay away from, Potato, Rice, White bread, Pasta but eat healthy brown rice and wholemeal Pasta as they dont have alot of Carbs in them.
Keep your carbs intake low and try to eat more protein such as Lean Chicken (steam or baked), Fish, Lean Beef, and Turkey.

Breakfast time, Try and have Oats Porridge but I do mine with little skim milk and 5-6 eggs whites on wholemeal toast with no marg/butter. With your Porridge you can even put protein powder in to add some flavour if you wish.

I also eat Brown rice cakes, Low fat Cottage cheese as they are low in carbs aswell.

I dont eat carbs after 6pm, some people dont eat carbs after 4pm. Everyone is different.

Some people eat 500 grms of protein a day and other have more or less depends on your body weight.

i have enclosed a link for Glycemic Index so you can count your calorie intake...

http://www.glycemicindex.com/


First off, remember this formula..

1 gram of Protein = 4 calories
1 gram of Carbohydrates = 4 calories
1 gram of Fat = 9 calories

Here is another basic mass building formula..

The basic formula to start is 16 calories per pound of bodyweight. For example, a 150 lb man should start with 2,400 calories a day. These calories should be divided up between 5-6 meals a day. After the first couple weeks if you are not gaining weight, you should add 500 calories a day. If after a couple more weeks and no weight is gained, add another 500 calories per day.


Also the ratio of the macronutrients as a general guideline are as follows..

Protein - 1 - 1.5 grams per pound of bodyweight
Carbohydrates - 2-3 grams per pound of bodyweight
Fats - .3 -.4 grams per pound of bodyweight

Source: FLEX Sept 2003 Issue pg 190

Q: As a bodybuilder are there any foods I should avoid other than junk foods?

A: Yes & now. In all food categories some foods are better than others in terms of nutrient profiles and macronutrient compositions. As a pro bodybuilder, I recommend a diet based on whole foods with the addition of supplements to help you achieve your desired physique goals.
With that said, within each category of whole foods, some are better than others depending on your needs and how your body responds to them. Try to choose from among the better options most of the time. Here are a few food categories and some of my picks for Best Bets & Worst Choices.

Vegetables:
Best Bets: Asparagus, green and red peppers, broccoli, spinach and leafy greens
Worse choices: Corn and peas are somewhat starchy, and they should be eaten in moderation. Carrots provide good nutrients, but they are also high in starchy carbs. Eat these as frequently as desired, cooked or raw but in moderate quantities

Fruits:
Best Bets: Blueberries, strawberries, raspberries and oranges
Worse choices: Grapes, bananas and watermelon. What they offer in nutrients and fibre doesn't offset the carbs these fruits contain
Worst choice: Fruit juice. Virtually all fruit juices are high in sugar relative to their nutritional value and should be avoided.

Meat:
Best Bets: Lean beef, skinless chicken breast & fish. Fish, regardless of whether it's lean or fatty, is an excellent bodybuilding choice because it contains healthy and necessary fats.
Worse Choices: Ground beef and dark-meat chicken with skin. These meats contain far more saturated fat than the lean counterparts listed in 'Best bets'

Grains:
Best Bets: Oatmeal, brown rice and whole-grained bread
Worse choices: White rice, pasta and white bread. These carbs are mostly processed, and they are much lower in nutrients and fibre than the 'Best bets'

These are just some examples of the types of foods you can select to further your bodybuilding progress.

**end article**
 
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please give us a more thorough breakdown of what your eating in a day and what excercises your doing + your personal stats. if you're not comfortable posting this pm me.

i use to have a hard time cutting weight til i figured out what worked for me and once you get dialed in it becomes a lot easier. Im here to help, a decade ago i had this same problem and i understand what you're going through.
 
You have been given good advice, but I certainly would not restrict my protein to once a day at night. You can get proteins from your vegetables but it may prove difficult to get a complete amino profile on a consistent basis.

If you embark on this type diet I would incorporate protein drinks or LBA's and then eat all the green leaf vegetables you want to get full. Using Flax Seed Oil, or Olive Oil for good fats will help as well. I actually put mine in my protein drinks.
 
ok i usually start my moneing off with 2 whole eggs and 3 egg whites. 8oz glass of skim milk.
noon - can of tuna with light mayo on 2 pieces of white bread
snack - dole fruit bowl (dont drink thejuice)
dinner - 2-3 pieces of talapia (fish) pan seared with some garlic butter dip lightly spread on it

morning and snacks are always the same dinner changes - steak, chicken, fish.

wasnt losing weight

so for the last 4 days i ahve been doing this

morning - bananna
noon - bowl of broccali with cheese.
snack - dole fruit bowl
dinner - can of tuna (plain), or talapia, chicken, steak.
late snack - some beef jerky, almonds.

I have noticed my weight decreasing, but i wanna make sure its healthy. Also whenever i feel hungry i eat a few pieces of fruit.
my stats :
5 11''
215lbs
not sure my bf% but its high.

gym stats
mon - 20 min cardio - 45 min lifting
tues-off
wed - 20 min cardio - 45 min lifting
thurs - off
friday - 20 min cardio - 45 min lifting
sat -off
sun 20 min cardio - 45 min lifting
 
When I cut weight, I switch to a keto diet. I eat whey (has appetite reducing properties), other lean proteins, fish oil (or fatty fish) and then the rest of my diet is green, non-starchy vegetables. Sometimes I'll break down... and have an extra protein shake.
 
ok i usually start my moneing off with 2 whole eggs and 3 egg whites. 8oz glass of skim milk.
noon - can of tuna with light mayo on 2 pieces of white bread
snack - dole fruit bowl (dont drink thejuice)
dinner - 2-3 pieces of talapia (fish) pan seared with some garlic butter dip lightly spread on it

morning and snacks are always the same dinner changes - steak, chicken, fish.

wasnt losing weight

so for the last 4 days i ahve been doing this

morning - bananna
noon - bowl of broccali with cheese.
snack - dole fruit bowl
dinner - can of tuna (plain), or talapia, chicken, steak.
late snack - some beef jerky, almonds.

I have noticed my weight decreasing, but i wanna make sure its healthy. Also whenever i feel hungry i eat a few pieces of fruit.
my stats :
5 11''
215lbs
not sure my bf% but its high.

gym stats
mon - 20 min cardio - 45 min lifting
tues-off
wed - 20 min cardio - 45 min lifting
thurs - off
friday - 20 min cardio - 45 min lifting
sat -off
sun 20 min cardio - 45 min lifting

IMO, that is a horrible diet. No protien, No healthy fats. Not a well balance diet at all.
 
i know it isnt a good diet...
just seems to be the only way i can drop fat
 
my question is... are you taking any supplements or anything else.. because that will play a part in the way you drop your weight.. and are you eating for your lean body mass or total body weight.. because when I diet I eat for lean mass not scale weight
 
and another thing unless your wanting to get as small as an Olsen Twin, your bodyfat percentage will stay high, without building lean muscle to replace the fat your holding.. and eating like a squirrel will get you no where but about 20 pounds heavier in the end.. balance out your ratios and train yourself to eat right..
 
im trying to build lean mass but also drop scale weight.
i want to be around 175 when i bulk up.. no more then 185

only supplement im on is about 3mixers of double scoops of protien throughout the day
 
dont be a bonehead.......

im trying to build lean mass but also drop scale weight.
i want to be around 175 when i bulk up.. no more then 185

only supplement im on is about 3mixers of double scoops of protien throughout the day

I am saying this light heartedly.... I have learned in this forum not to give halfassed information... when you described your diet you forgot to mention your drinking protein shakes.. therefore no one can give an honest opinion.. do us all a favor a post an average daily diet so we will know exactly what we are looking at.. but your protwin levels are still to low to even help you buld much mass.. your body will eat itself away trying to feed what your not...
 
don't eat less than 2k calories on days you're working out imo. You're doing more harm than good to your metabolism that way. To be honest, if you eat a clean enough diet, you could probably rock close to 3k calories and still shed weight. Also, Fiber. Fiber. Fiber. People with high fiber diets tend to have faster metabolisms than people who don't. Not to mention you'll be as regular as day which at the very least will make you feel lighter. Sorry crapping reference guys but hey everybody poops.
 
average meal...

breakfast - 2 whole eggs, 3 egg whites, glass of 8oz skim milk
lunch - can of tuna tbsp light mayo, 2 slices of white bread
protien shake - 50g protien
snack - broccoli with 2 slices of american cheese, bananna, or some fruit
dinner - 3 pieces of talapia/or decent amount of chicken, tuna, turkey, steak.
do not eat past 6 oclick
late night snack - protien shake

im not really concerned about losing my muscle right now if thats what it taked.. i am in need to shed weight. I can then focuse on bulking and gaining my muscle back. I am stuck and have been for a good amount of time. I have tried reforming my diet many times and have had no luck.
I know my total daily intake is no more then 2200 cals.
 

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