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My Next Run...

Kaiser

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Ok fellas, I think I mapped this out OK but am open to logical, knowledgable suggestions. This will be the first time trying out Tren, so I wanted to keep it under 3 weeks to check out any sides.

1-12 TestE 500mg e/w
1-3 Durabolin 300mg e/w
1-7 Deca 400mg e/w
7-10 TrenE 200mg e/w (will be monitoring this closely)
8-12 Winny 100mg e/w
1-14 Nolv 10mg e/d (gyno prone)
10-12 T3 50mcg e/d
12-15 Clomid 50mg e/d
 
My 2 cents..!

Well it would make more sense if you've never tried tren's then stick with the acetate...If you don't like it ,it will get out of your system a whole lot faster...

And as far as the t-3 I would do it when the gear is in full swing not at the end...It seems that it would be toclose to the end of your cycle and you won't get the benefit from it and you may even loose some size from it...

I did a t-3/clen cycle last year in the summer....8 weeks and maxed out at 125 mcg's of t-3 and 400 mcg's of clen...It was pretty rough on my system..I was soaked all the time..and sleeping on it was pretty tough...

Then your doing tren with deca....I made that mistake once....I was doing deca and tren hex..and little willy went away for a long time..I had to start eating provirin....Personally I would do either deca or tren in a cycle but never both in a short cycle like this...

Why not extend your cycle to 20-24 weeks start out with the deca,durabolin and test for 8-10 weeks...stop the deca at 8-9 then go with the tren in week 11 and finish it out with winny,tren and t-3 and then your pct....
 
Big_O said:
Well it would make more sense if you've never tried tren's then stick with the acetate...If you don't like it ,it will get out of your system a whole lot faster...

And as far as the t-3 I would do it when the gear is in full swing not at the end...It seems that it would be toclose to the end of your cycle and you won't get the benefit from it and you may even loose some size from it...

I did a t-3/clen cycle last year in the summer....8 weeks and maxed out at 125 mcg's of t-3 and 400 mcg's of clen...It was pretty rough on my system..I was soaked all the time..and sleeping on it was pretty tough...

Then your doing tren with deca....I made that mistake once....I was doing deca and tren hex..and little willy went away for a long time..I had to start eating provirin....Personally I would do either deca or tren in a cycle but never both in a short cycle like this...

Why not extend your cycle to 20-24 weeks start out with the deca,durabolin and test for 8-10 weeks...stop the deca at 8-9 then go with the tren in week 11 and finish it out with winny,tren and t-3 and then your pct....

This is what I needed to hear on this, because like I said I have no experience with Tren. I figured I would go off 1 AAS and into another, but for a short burst to lean out and tighten up. I certainly don't want to affect the soldier. My reasonning behind the T3 at the end actually had a motive. I will be on vacation in St. Martin week 13-14 so I wanted to be as lean as possible.
I do however know about the acetate ester and was considering it.

In the past my cycles looked pretty much like the one listed above but I ran Deca out to week 10 and did not do Tren obviously. The original cycle I can handle with no problem and no libido drop.
 
Tren e is long ester.Better stick with tren a since its ur first time and ur only running the tren for 4 weeks.
 
khalnayak said:
Tren e is long ester.Better stick with tren a since its ur first time and ur only running the tren for 4 weeks.

As BigO stated... This is a better idea for me I think, if I do indeed go the Tren route.
 
Kaiser said:
Ok fellas, I think I mapped this out OK but am open to logical, knowledgable suggestions. This will be the first time trying out Tren, so I wanted to keep it under 3 weeks to check out any sides.
Hey kais,

Trust me, I know a lot have more experience with tren than I do, but definitely consider the acetate ester. I know the ed injects suck and you and I are both VERY comfortable with the enanthate ester but you don't want to wait 3 week for sides to dissipate on a trial run.

We KNOW what test will do to us, but tren is a real animal. It's far more potent AR binding than test. But you're doing test throughout so that should (and i really mean 'should') keep the little general awake and happy. That's definitely a blitz cycle you got there! Keep me posted will ya?

[edit]looks like everyone already got to you on this. I'm considering tren for summer so again, keep me posted!
 
I did the t-3/cen cycle for my wedding/honeymoon in the Dominican Rebulic...The only thing it was in June and it was hot and humid....I'm from Atlanta and have been living there for 17 years till I moved back to New England....I just couldn't take the heat at all....get this I got married at 5:00 in the afternoon and wore a wool suit,long sleevs and had to pose for pics after the wedding....Drank like a fool and totally lost on our honeymoon nite...

anadrol makes me really grouchy...i love it
 
OuchThatHurts said:
Hey kais,

Trust me, I know a lot have more experience with tren than I do, but definitely consider the acetate ester. I know the ed injects suck and you and I are both VERY comfortable with the enanthate ester but you don't want to wait 3 week for sides to dissipate on a trial run.

We KNOW what test will do to us, but tren is a real animal. It's far more potent AR binding than test. But you're doing test throughout so that should (and i really mean 'should') keep the little general awake and happy. That's definitely a blitz cycle you got there! Keep me posted will ya?

I will keep you posted, and if I do decide to try it out, I will use the shorter ester. I'm not apposed to shots every other day, they dont really bother me. Like i said however, the cycle (besides the Tren) works quite well on me running the Deca out to week 10. If I decide to run the Tren, I will keep you all posted on my findings. I never had to use proviron, and hopefuly never will... ;)
 
Big_O said:
I did the t-3/cen cycle for my wedding/honeymoon in the Dominican Rebulic...The only thing it was in June and it was hot and humid....I'm from Atlanta and have been living there for 17 years till I moved back to New England....I just couldn't take the heat at all....get this I got married at 5:00 in the afternoon and wore a wool suit,long sleevs and had to pose for pics after the wedding....Drank like a fool and totally lost on our honeymoon nite...

anadrol makes me really grouchy...i love it

Hehe, sounds like mine... Simone and I got married in July in Aruba... We took pictures at 8AM, and I was still soaked in 15 minutes. Those places definately aren't made for formal wear. The last time I did T3 was in St. Martin in Feb, and it was like 84 degrees. I was fine with it however, but then again I didn't do any Clen. I don't think I would like Clen (never tried it) because I really dont like the ephedra-like heart racing thing... That drives me crazy. I dont get that with T3.


Here's a snap before the sweat...
 

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kind of the same thing I'm running kaiser but I'm replacing deca with masteron and adding some dbol...
 
Jrflex10er said:
kind of the same thing I'm running kaiser but I'm replacing deca with masteron and adding some dbol...


How are you doing with it?
 
Big_O said:
Well it would make more sense if you've never tried tren's then stick with the acetate...If you don't like it ,it will get out of your system a whole lot faster...

And as far as the t-3 I would do it when the gear is in full swing not at the end...It seems that it would be toclose to the end of your cycle and you won't get the benefit from it and you may even loose some size from it...

I did a t-3/clen cycle last year in the summer....8 weeks and maxed out at 125 mcg's of t-3 and 400 mcg's of clen...It was pretty rough on my system..I was soaked all the time..and sleeping on it was pretty tough...

Then your doing tren with deca....I made that mistake once....I was doing deca and tren hex..and little willy went away for a long time..I had to start eating provirin....Personally I would do either deca or tren in a cycle but never both in a short cycle like this...

Why not extend your cycle to 20-24 weeks start out with the deca,durabolin and test for 8-10 weeks...stop the deca at 8-9 then go with the tren in week 11 and finish it out with winny,tren and t-3 and then your pct....

Good info.

AG
www.ag-guys.com
 
Kaiser said:
How are you doing with it?


Haven't started yet...Will in the next couple of weeks...Will let you know asap...I'm expecting some pretty impressive strength and lean mass gains with my stricted diet....
 

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