Need to ask a question, hope yall can help!

[JUNGLEJUICE]

Aight well i am a football player at a D1A school in a top conference and am really intersted in doing a cycle over the summer time. My stuff is not going to be here for a while but our trainer gave me some andro poppers to start with right now. I was wondering what yall thought or if there would be any problems taking andro right now then starting a cycle in a few weeks. My cycle will prolly consist of test susp. and dbol b/c of the quickness out of the system. Let me know what yall think!! Sorry this was so long!!! Thanks alot fellas!!

JJ

 

[xcelbeyond]

Welcome to the board!

Have you ever cycled before?

Do you have stuff for PCT, maybe including clen?

What you propose should make you big and strong!

xcel

 

[maxsupplements]

definately need pct

you will definately need some post cycle therapy. maybe doin some hcg to keep your natural production normal and from shutting down. the dbol will present some water retention issues and some clomid during the cycle or some arimidex will help that. i have started out with 1ad before and ran it for 2 weeks prior to a 12 week cycle of test and dbol. i had a hard time figuring out the pct though. make sure you know what you are doing before you stick any pin any where in your body...

 

[UMD73]

I just graduated school, played ball, Div 1-AA, my fav pre-season cycle was test prop/winny, go w/ water base winny and both are out of your system fast, winny will help your speed, and prop gives you great strength gains... I def agree w/ Xcel and Maxsupps, post cycle therapy is going to be key, my advice would be clomids (do a search for the appropriate dosages if you don't know) w/ novla or arimidex on hand for possible estrogen problems, although those are uncommon w/ prop and winny, and CLEN... this is very important for shredding off any water gained as well as being a very potent anti-catabolic so you will be able to retain more of your size and strength gains... clen should be ok for drug testing but you should check further into that, it is out of your system in 36 hours though so you can take it right up to camp. Hope this helps you... good luck

 

[xcelbeyond]

go w/ water base winny and both are out of your system fast, winny will help your speed, and prop gives you great strength gains

If my memory serve me correctly (and it has seemed to be failing me lately ), while winny is assimilated "fast" it can be detectable for a LOT longer than you think (several weeks?).

xcel

 

[drgoodbody]

Xcel, you are somewhat correct about detection time of Winny: 2 months for injectible, but only 3 weeks for oral.

NANDROLONE DECANOATE 17 - 18 MONTHS

NANDROLONE PHENYLPROPIONATE 11 - 12 MONTHS

BOLDENONE UNDECYLENATE 4 - 5 MONTHS

TESTOSTERONE CYPIONATE 3 MONTHS

TESTOSTERONE ENANTHATE 3 MONTHS

TESTOSTERONE MIXES 3 MONTHS

OXYMETHOLONE 2 MONTHS

FLUOXYMESTERONE 2 MONTHS

STANOZOLOL (INJECT) 2 MONTHS

NORETHANDROLONE 5 - 6 WEEKS

MESTEROLONE 5 - 6 WEEKS

TRENBOLONE HEXAHYDROBENZYLCARBONATE 4 - 5 WEEKS

TRENBOLONE ACETATE 4 - 5 WEEKS

METHENOLONE ENANTHATE (INJECT) 4 - 5 WEEKS

OXANDROLONE 3 WEEKS

STANOZOLOL (ORAL) 3 WEEKS

TESTOSTERONE UNDECONOATE 1 WEEK

TESTOSTERONE PROPIONATE 2 WEEKS

CLENBUTEROL 4 - 5 DAYS


hope this helps,

DrG

 

[haze324]

Joints

Also, rememeber about them joints if your gonna take winny and the play ball. I guess what position you play would put you at a higher risk. PM Ivan, he might be able to give you insight.
HZ.....

 

[Armageddon]

Winnies are great and all but avoid it. The best thing for you to use is the suspension. It and out quick and that makes it harder to detect. You won't need hcg unless you plan on being on for a long period of time. Clomid and arimidex would be your best bet. Anyything that your going to do is going to help your speed as long as you train for speed. I'm sure that you understand that, that is you key to success. I would suggest something like tren or halo's. Some maybe even many may disagree but it really works. The tren if ran for longer than 4 weeks starts to hamper conditioning for a short period of time, but as long as you keep running it goes away. The halo's make you strong as hell without alot of weight. If your a db like myself it's a great addition to your game. The one other thing that i like and I use it sparingly is gh. You should be able to findout if there testing for that or not. But all my years in school only our kicker and punter got tested. LOL Anyhow the growth helped me to stay lean, and a lean body moves better than a fat one. If you have anymore specific Q's then let them fly.