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I've worked with Tuttle for 2 preps and he is great. Responds very quickly to all questions, cares a lot about you as a client. Doesn't over-diet or over-drug you and gets you peeled. Amazing guy. The only thing is, I don't see a ton of his clients making significant off-season gains, I could be wrong on that though. I think some coaches are better for putting on size on their guys and others are better at getting you in shape. Justin blew me up on the rebound but it was too much, I had so much edema from all the carbs that I felt as if I could have had a serious medical event. Regardless I did gain like 50lbs during the rebound but my appetite got blown out a few weeks into the off season. Looking back at check in pics with him, I was way too fat, no idea why he didn't pull back calories harder. I could have had a much more productive off-season and surpassed my strength gains by a lot had I stayed leaner during the rebound.
Thanks for the info. Do you know what his rebound protocol is like? I've also heard that about him, like he has clients do stuff like weigh all their meat raw instead of cooked (I wonder if he gives you an option for that) and take a bunch of supplements at various times (can you give an example of this?). Also did you work with him for off-season or prep?
Justin definitely pushes it on that rebound. I lost my appetite pretty quickly as well, but my A1c stayed great and I was making unreal gains, so I didn't really care lol
I have two buddies that can relate. Robbery.
I've heard the same about Matt Jansen. He apparently has his wife pretend it's him for correspondence if you're not a top competitor.
How fast was the 50lb gain?
They don't pretend anything - you write an email to matt and his wife replies that matt does not deal with normal coaching presents you with an offer and redirects you to one of the coaches who work with Matt
Yep. Probably a lot of them doing just this.
that's right, the one following you is Matt's wife; he directly follows Pros like Nick Walker , Shaun Clarida ; Brett Wilkin
Damn that 2 week response time is unacceptable for the money you'd be paying IMO. Although, one example, this classic Olympian Blake Course seemed to have started with Patrick at a point where I don't believe he was even pro and had sort of a mediocre physique. I wonder if he will put more effort into you if he sees potential.
The 50lbs gain was in 6 weeks. Then I gained about 10lbs during the cruise. I lost my appetite about 1 month into the actual off-season so it was after 3 months of work with him. We cruised for 4 weeks.
I think Justin is extremely intelligent. I consume all of the content that Team Troponin puts out but he did not seem to care that much about me as a client compared to someone like Tuttle who cares a lot. Also I see some contradictions in the stuff he says, for one, he says that the rebound is responsible for the large majority of your off-season gains but then also runs long off-seasons with some of his clients. Like John Rivas was in an off-season for almost 2 years. Why not just prep, rebound, cruise, prep again and then rebound? I think a long off-season is essential for some, especially if you are newer and that the rebound should only be moderately aggressive as that is a good time for sarcoplasmic growth but not myofibliar growth (which would occur during the actual off-season where your joints and tendons are healthy again).
Tuor has a misbehavior towards pays his consultancies; in Italy he followed some people, he received the money (a lot of money he asks for), after a few weeks he stopped answering and disappeared without giving any explanations
What are your thoughts on Justin Compton? His IG disappeared. I know he also favors a more aggressive rebound.
