PH's vs. Test

[Ali]

Was wondering if someone can explain to me why these new Ph's such as sus500 and other "designer steriods" have common side effects of killings libido, however a test cycle can make you feel like a 16year old all over again lol.

I guess the part i'm lost on is if these new ph's out there are basically real gear why do they not enhance libido? I now sus500 made me sex the LAST thing on my mind

 

[Thor]

ALSO

would like to know this. And if you take real test with the PHs will you keep libido?

 

[Big_Truck]

I'm pretty sure the name sust500 was purely for marketing , and is no way supposed to effect you in the same manner as real testosterone....

 

[Big_Truck]

would like to know this. And if you take real test with the PHs will you keep libido?

You should.

 

[Ali]

I'm pretty sure the name sust500 was purely for marketing , and is no way supposed to effect you in the same manner as real testosterone....

This is most likely true, but i keep reading that these new desginer PHs are no question real gear...just happen to be legal at the momemt.

Any vets chime in?

 

[Tom]

sus500

sus500 is porobably more like tren than test. that's why decrease in libido.

 

[Ali]

sus500 is porobably more like tren than test. that's why decrease in libido.

If thats the case i would of expected to loose hair... are there any PH out there that are more like TEST...

 

[Quad-smack]

Superdrol = HTPA shutdown
Epi & clones, & AI neutraceuticals = low estrogen & low libido
Tren precursors = limpie for sure
Nandrolone precursors = same as tren precursors
Halodrol 50 = mild sides & slight libido boost
Bold, & 1,4 bold = weak but did not effect the libido one way or the other

I once did a stack of E-stane and Trenadrol and never once even thought of sex for the 4 weeks I was on. Great gains though.
Adding test to the mix would be like taking test as a base to prevent sexual sides.

 

[Ali]

Superdrol = HTPA shutdown
Epi & clones, & AI neutraceuticals = low estrogen & low libido
Tren precursors = limpie for sure
Nandrolone precursors = same as tren precursors
Halodrol 50 = mild sides & slight libido boost
Bold, & 1,4 bold = weak but did not effect the libido one way or the other

I once did a stack of E-stane and Trenadrol and never once even thought of sex for the 4 weeks I was on. Great gains though.
Adding test to the mix would be like taking test as a base to prevent sexual sides.

so basically every PH shuts down libido..and where does massdrol fall into this category.

 

[AWN2004]

First of all I'm not a biochemist but I can tell you a couple things that you should look for if you are going to use a pro-hormone and want to keep your libido.

Look at the derivative compound the PH is modeled from. Is it a 19-Nor? If it is, you can bet there might be some libido issues.

Stay away from PH's that have an affinity to estrogen conversion. Estrogen is the primary reason you lose your sex drive. On the flip side of that, you need a certain amount for optimum growth and cholesterol management.

You can also take an OTC AI in conjunction with whatever it is you are taking to help keep that in line.

Ever since the original ban of all the good stuff a couple of years ago, finding direct precursors like 1-testosterone will be pretty much impossible. However with the new generation of stuff on the horizon I'm sure they will have something stronger soon.

 

[dieselbuilder]

Bold, & 1,4 bold = weak but did not effect the libido one way or the other

I agree, bold has not affected me in that way at all. It may not be strong, but I like it so far.

 

[RONJON]

^Bump..this is a good thread

 

[Big Bapper]

SUS 500

Is a pro-hormone not testostrone, I have seen more cases of gyno with PHs than any anabolic.

 

[Ali]

I guess..

in a perfect world we could have a pill form that will add muscle and increase libido.

Becuase i have yet to hear anyone report anything positive or normal regarding libido while taking a PH. I have yet to feel this lethargy feeling most talk about, but then again i've only taking sus500.

I guess at the end of the day you really can't compare PH to real test in any shape or form...

 

[Big Bapper]

in a perfect world we could have a pill form that will add muscle and increase libido.

...

There are loads dbol, adrol, test undeconate.

 

[Muay Thai]

i thought massdrol was just expensive superdrol

 

[g40graham]

i thought massdrol was just expensive superdrol

MassDrol is a superdrol clone.

 

[g40graham]

I have used PH's before, and have always had great gains, but terrible sides (horrible lethargy, back pumps, libido xtreme decrease, sometimes shutdown, etc.) and not to mention what it does to your liver. Coming off the last cycle was so bad I said I'd never do them again...and so here I am now!

 

[Cerberus777]

Most of the PH's are very low on the androgenic scale and dont act fully like test...if they shut you down your libido will fall . H-Drol bumps it up in most.

 

[Ali]

Most of the PH's are very low on the androgenic scale and dont act fully like test...if they shut you down your libido will fall . H-Drol bumps it up in most.

Yea, this is what I've heard basically about every PH on the market. I have heard some cases of h-drol bumping libido or at the least not affecting it at all. Wonder why H-drol doesn't kill libido like the others..