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Post-Cycle Question for the Pro's

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Post-Cycle Question for the Pro's
Hey bros, I know a lot of big guys that don't use clomid post-cycle. Come to think of it, I bet that a lot of top-level amateurs and even a lot of pros don't use it either. What do you guys think? Do you guys use it? I'm sure that the bodybuilders of the 70's and 80's didn't use it, or at least very few did. What do you guys use post-cycle? Insulin? Rest? Food? Thanks in advance.



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01-05-2002 10:45 PM



FRKNHUGE
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my past cyc
i used 20mg nolva and 1/4 cc liquidex, and bridged with 200mg primo

personally dont like clomid, makes me feel weird, go with a lil pinnacle horny goat weed if ur boys dont work, lol


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01-05-2002 10:47 PM



DESTRO
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How long did you take the nolva/liquidex for?



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01-05-2002 11:58 PM



FRKNHUGE
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actually
i use the nolva pretty much all the time now, just to stay a lil harder, i used the liquidex for 4 weeks, then if i were ya id use the nolva at 10mg for the following 3



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01-06-2002 01:27 AM



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I'm sure alot of top level amatures and pros don't use clomid also because what would be the point if you never come off steroids.



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01-06-2002 04:41 AM



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I only take off 3 weeks at a time but, only use Clomid if I have some laying around.hehhee By speeding up your metabolism
you will get receptors clean quicker and your natural test will come back quicker. Usually I will hit DNP, Clen and ECA between courses w/ Kyno, Nolvadex, arimidex and EPO.

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01-06-2002 05:52 AM



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Ry- can you elaborate on your kyno usage? How much? How often? What type of needle, and where do you inject? Thanks in advance.



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01-06-2002 08:56 AM



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I'm sure alot of top level amatures and pros don't use clomid also because what would be the point if you never come off steroids.
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Very true! LOL

When I do come off, I use Clomid if I have any and if I don't forget to take the pills. However I use HCG at 5,000IU every 4 weeks while on. Also, I taper the hell out of the gear when I do come off, and usually within 6 weeks, my HPTA is back to normal.
When I finally finish the 'proper' gear, I use primo tabs at low dose (25-50mg/day) for 3 weeks as I come off, plus I take tons of Syntheselen (better version of kyno) and I may take things like clenbuterol, etc.



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01-06-2002 09:24 AM



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quote:
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Ry- can you elaborate on your kyno usage? How much? How often? What type of needle, and where do you inject? Thanks in advance.
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I use ~2ml ED of Syntheselen. Just switched over from Kyno, which finally ran out. I had a post over a RM about Kyno & Cramps and BigA gave a ton of good info on the differences between Kyno & Syntheselen. Made a good enough case for me to switch over. Of course I bought it when it was On Sale!

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01-06-2002 11:23 AM



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Destro, I use around 3cc's per day site injected w/ a 25gauge needle.

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01-06-2002 11:25 AM



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RM must be another board that I'm not yet familiar with. Could someone please post a link? Ry- you said you use a 25g pin for the Kyno- do you just do bicep/delt/glute shots w/ a 1" or 1 1/2" pin as you would for any AAS? Thanks



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01-06-2002 05:12 PM



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RippedMass was a good board that shut down. A lot of the members here are from there.

For the kyno/syntheselen you can use any size needle (like insulin needle) and inject subq for no hassle.



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01-06-2002 07:31 PM



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You just shoot it subq into the abdominal fat, like w/ slin? I wonder why a lot of guys do IM shots of kyno? If anyone can post the RM thread that went into detail on kyno use I would definitely appreciate it.



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01-06-2002 07:53 PM



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Most people inject it IM because they don't know that thye can subq plus a lot of them like to use it to dilute thicker products, like supensions.

Maybe xcelbeyond might have that thread saved???



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01-06-2002 08:02 PM



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Thanks for all the info Big A. Do you shoot it in your abdominal fat? What results do you see at 3cc/day?



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01-06-2002 08:20 PM



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Sorry Guys
I didn't save that thread from RM.

I use a 3cc, 1/2" 27g pin (23g to draw: draws quicker and gives me a virgin pin for poke - synthelesen has a tough stopper!). This stuff is very watery and injects VERY easily. 27g allow you to be able to keep injection time down to at least 1 min per cc. Even with the 27g, I could inject 2ml in 15 seconds if I wanted to!

I use quads, butt, and delts - so technically I don't use a site more than once a week. I guess this rule goes out the window next cycle when I poke my bis EOD!

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01-06-2002 09:56 PM



DESTRO
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xcel- why don't you shoot subq? it sure would be a lot less hassle.



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01-06-2002 10:51 PM



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Syntheselen, is it really worth spending 90.00 plus shipping and handling? Also, I don't have any pins sitting around, so if I were to take it orally, is it even worth buying. One last question. does anyone knw when they will have it in stock again?



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01-11-2002 07:56 AM



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Syntheselen, is it really worth spending 90.00 plus shipping and handling? Also, I don't have any pins sitting around, so if I were to take it orally, is it even worth buying. One last question. does anyone knw when they will have it in stock again?
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It's DEFINETELY worth buying! But you HAVE to inject it. Order pins o lin if you don't have them. Abut not having it in stock - I do know that they have run out of it in the past because so many people buy it, but they always get stock expressed from Australia immediatelly, so if they are out of stock they normally have it within days.


To Daestro - yes, I inj in the stomach fat. You will get more vascular, definetelly leaner and harder and the muscles stay full. It works like a mild steroid, like Primo or anavar, while you lose some fat too. Plus it's legal!



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01-11-2002 09:58 AM



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Is kynoselen more effective then clen or eca when it comes to fat loss and anti katabolic effects???
 

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