Powder vs. Pharm.

[skinny D]

The only pharm gear i've ran was ara-test, I've only ran homebrews since i've started.

So how does homebrew compair to pharm inj's? are pharm inj worth the extra $
Thanks bros
skinny

 

[aw1218]

looks better+quality+nothing else

 

[vadim_b1]

If your powder source is credible, it all boils down to your homebrewing skills.
Hell you can even do better than some pharm companies . (Some egyptian gear ive seen looks absolutely horrible ).

 

[oldfella]

If you look closely at lets' use sust 250 for this example then you will notice it states 250mg/ml. on the box. Read the fine print and you will find it works out to around 176mg/ml of actual test. With powders if you make it 250mg/ml and it's done correctly then you end up with actual 250mg/ml of test. So you draw your own conclusion. but having test or other from powder is better IMO. As long as the brewing is reliable and sterile then No probs.

 

[msforr75]

If you look closely at lets' use sust 250 for this example then you will notice it states 250mg/ml. on the box. Read the fine print and you will find it works out to around 176mg/ml of actual test. With powders if you make it 250mg/ml and it's done correctly then you end up with actual 250mg/ml of test. So you draw your own conclusion. but having test or other from powder is better IMO. As long as the brewing is reliable and sterile then No probs.

It says "176mg/ml of actual test" because the rest is ester. Same would apply for the powders. But back to the question. Pharm is going to be cleaner, but not any stronger as long as the powder is real.

 

[oldfella]

It says "176mg/ml of actual test" because the rest is ester. Same would apply for the powders. But back to the question. Pharm is going to be cleaner, but not any stronger as long as the powder is real.

When you make up from powder you are getting actual 100mg/ml, 200 mg/ml or whatever the strength is. Powder is the raw ingredient and what ever strength you make it that's what it actually is. One of my boys makes mine and it is the "real deal" He has a PhD in biochemistry and it is made in a lab. Powders are the shit!!

 

[VNV]

When you make up from powder you are getting actual 100mg/ml, 200 mg/ml or whatever the strength is. Powder is the raw ingredient and what ever strength you make it that's what it actually is. One of my boys makes mine and it is the "real deal" He has a PhD in biochemistry and it is made in a lab. Powders are the shit!!

Sorry man, but you're off on this one. Let's say you're getting testosterone ENANTHATE powder. Testosterone is ESTERIFIED with an ENANTHATE ester. This means that enanthate is essentially binded to testosterone. The result is testosterone enanthate--a molecule that is a combination of both testosterone and the enanthate ester. Naturally then, only a portion of the testosterone enanthate powder is actually testosterone. So if you're gear is 200mg test-e, a portion of what your injecting is comprised of the enanthate ester, meaning you get less than 200mg of testosterone.

 

[skinny D]

100mg base=100mg
100mg acetate= 87mg
100mg prop= 83mg
100mg ena= 72mg
100mg cyp= 70mg
100mg phenly= 67mg
100mg deca= 64mg

So to get 100mg actual drug you would need 130mg dosed gear. So you would need 26g to make 100ml of 200mg dosed gear(after ester is removed) So for every 26g's, 6g's are ester(edit) this is for cyp ester

 

[maldorf]

Sorry man, but you're off on this one. Let's say you're getting testosterone ENANTHATE powder. Testosterone is ESTERIFIED with an ENANTHATE ester. This means that enanthate is essentially binded to testosterone. The result is testosterone enanthate--a molecule that is a combination of both testosterone and the enanthate ester. Naturally then, only a portion of the testosterone enanthate powder is actually testosterone. So if you're gear is 200mg test-e, a portion of what your injecting is comprised of the enanthate ester, meaning you get less than 200mg of testosterone.

I think he obviously knows this. I think what he was trying to say is that if you have a good powder source and you make up your own injectable solution you can count on its concentration being what its supposed to be. Many products put out by labs may be under or even over dosed.