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Privacy and Security

jrs

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I'm hoping we can compile a list of ways to keep most/all of our information and history private. I no longer have anything to worry about as I train naturally without risking my freedom. But I still don't want just anybody (law enforcement, exes, future spouse, friends/foes, family, etc) to have access to my cell records, GPS cell tracking, credit card usage history, marketing info, library usage history, etc etc etc.

A lot of the stuff I have read in the last hour or so is outdated. Privacy laws are evolving constantly. I just read an article from 2005 on bestpeoplesearch.com that states that it's as simple as telling your cell provider that you don't want any call or text details/history on your bills and that you want your account password-protected. Would this do any good for starters?

What about mobile web access from a cell? Trackable and unsafe? I'm aware of proxy servers for normal browsing..
 
I think with the current crop of of people running washington will have it far worse than you can ever imagine.
I never get invlved with the political threads but this will ultimatly turn into one.
 
For the record, my intent is not to start a political debate. Just advice on how to keep private things private.
 
id like to know the best programs/methods for keeping your computer safe and anonomous
 
I think with the current crop of of people running washington will have it far worse than you can ever imagine.
I never get invlved with the political threads but this will ultimatly turn into one.

I would say just the opposite, it's the republicans that tend to want to increase that kind of thing.
 
I would say just the opposite, it's the republicans that tend to want to increase that kind of thing.

Hmm then why does the guy runing washington want power over the net now also?
I guess security is a mute point in that agenda and its obviously nothing to do with that right?
 
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Hmm then why does the guy runing washington want power over the net now also?
I guess security is a mute point in that agenda and its obviously nothing to do with that right?

Seriously people...

Democrat, Republican are two sides of the same coin: full-time members in the Federal government mainly looking out for themselves with most of them bowing to interests that will keep them in office, in power, or make them rich.


I know the original post is mainly focused on internet privacy, but here are some links with more information:

How to be Invisible by J.J. Luna - an excellent book on the mentality needed with some concrete advice

Talk: "Privacy is dead. Get over it." by private investigator Steven Rambam - interesting talk. In a youtube playlist of 20 clips.

TOOLS:

GNU Privacy Guard - the open source alternative to PGP (encryption software) - free and open source so many, many people can look at the source code. All platforms.

Encryption software for making secure VOIP (voice over internet phone) calls by same inventor of original PGP, Phil Zimmerman - Free to download. Built to protect privacy, much as the original purpose of PGP was designed...

RESOURCES:

Electronic Frontier Foundation - "confront cutting-edge issues defending free speech, privacy, innovation, and consumer rights today"

Privacy.org - a website offering privacy news

Epic.org - Electronic Privacy Information Center


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World Privacy Forum

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Wired: Threat Level - for the privacy rights and issues news/opinion

EDIT for add link from pesty4077:

Eden Press - "Your source for New Identity, Privacy, Credit, Scope International Reports, Paper Trip Tools"
 
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Seriously people...

Democrat, Republican are two sides of the same coin: full-time members in the Federal government mainly look out for themselves with most of them bowing to interests that will keep them in office, in power, or make them rich.


I know the original post is mainly focused on internet privacy, but here are some links with more information:

How to be Invisible by J.J. Luna - an excellent book on the mentality needed with some concrete advice

Talk: "Privacy is dead. Get over it." by private investigator Steven Rambam - interesting talk. In a youtube playlist of 20 clips.

TOOLS:

GNU Privacy Guard - the open source alternative to PGP (encryption software) - free and open source so many, many people can look at the source code. All platforms.

Encryption software for making secure VOIP (voice over internet phone) calls by same inventor of original PGP, Phil Zimmerman - Free to download. Built to protect privacy, much as the original purpose of PGP was designed...

RESOURCES:

Electronic Frontier Foundation - "confront cutting-edge issues defending free speech, privacy, innovation, and consumer rights today"

Privacy.org - a website offering privacy news

Epic.org - Electronic Privacy Information Center

Exactly the type of stuff i was looking for. Thank you very much for your post.
 
Exactly the type of stuff i was looking for. Thank you very much for your post.

I have more security and privacy links at work. These are off the top of my head. Once I get back to work, I'll update my original post. I'll drop you a PM when I update it.
 
Thanks.. I spent a couple hours! listening to the Privacy Is Dead videos and still couldn't finish. Skipped over the last couple. So much info.. Trying to figure out how it applies and what can be done but the theme in that video is there's no way to hide.

Is a Tracphone traceable? Are there ways to remove the GPS from our cell phones and blackberries?

Going to spend the next couple days looking through the info in your posts. In the meantime, what are your personal opinions as to what the best things to do to protect ourselves?
 
The How to be Invisible book is interesting, but again, according to the Privacy is Dead videos, in the past 4-5 years, so many major changes have occured that people are unaware of. Would the info in this book be outdated?
 
You only have to look as far as Detroit's former mayor and the text message scandal to see nothing is really private even if you think it is. They can find out just about anything if they feel the need.
 
If you would like privacy one of the first steps is to stop posting on the internet.
 
The How to be Invisible book is interesting, but again, according to the Privacy is Dead videos, in the past 4-5 years, so many major changes have occured that people are unaware of. Would the info in this book be outdated?

There is more to privacy beyond the internet. Here are some of the things that book covers:

- #1 rule is that your real name is never associated with your home address
- how to set up ghost addresses to receive mail
- how to set up utilities without using your name
- How to set up LLC for privacy
- How to set up bank accounts
- How to make sure your car isn't traceable back to your real name / address

It's a good read and a good reference, but definitely will not cover the computer side of privacy. Also the author keeps up-to-date on his side of the privacy equation and updates his website (and includes a very simple "forum" for questions.)

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I'm lucky with my job. I have a job that I can do personal research at work as long as I answer the phone when someone calls. I love knowledge and research many subjects.

My person opinion is that it is very important to protect your privacy up to your comfort level. Right now I only do the following: all mail is delivered to a private mail box, rent a room in a house, and encrypt all data on my computer that I want to keep safe. Honestly it's not much and more can be done, but I'm comfortable where I'm at right now except for my online adventures. But I'm learning more about computer security and privacy; I'll be able to better implement practices that help with privacy in the future.

It funny, because I was just talking with a co-worker about this. She was driving and her son in the backseat started play-fighting with her. A lady next to them decided that she was beating on her child and called the cops. This lady started following her around. My coworker and her son tried to explain, but the lady was completely convince that she was beating her children. My friend drove away, essentially ran from this lady that was following her, and eventually lost her. Luckily she was driving a friend's car so it wasn't traceable back to her. Was she wrong for running? Consider this: If the cops show up, they are most likely not to believe her side of the story because it is easier to believe bad things. If this happens, child protection services would be called in. And that starts a huge painful process that she didn't want to go through. Her son will not play like that if there is anyone else around any more because he is afraid.

In fact a very good friend of mine just had an experience with child protective services. He woke up to find his 4-year old son breaking dishes and pouring milk on the kitchen floor. So he spanked him 4 times. The daycare saw a little welt on his child's bottom and called the police. The police and child protection services showed up at his house. He went through a painful process. Now I'm sure that child protection services does some good work, but it is scary the power they have when people who don't have children can take your children away if they think it is in the best interest. I don't have children yet, but when I was a child, my dad used a belt to spank me. Honestly, I'm better for disciplining. I believe that part of why kids are so whiny and disrespectful these days. Or maybe I just getting more grumpy as I get older? :D
 
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Educate yourself with books by Eden Press. Some of the most interesting topics.
 
Privacy

This is a political thread because basically everything in life is political--something recognized by more or less, the first democracy, Classical Greece.

Knowledge is power. The government, the corporations and think tanks are mining everybody, every day, to get as much information as possible. They will use it against it, anyway they can. They know, for example, that 45% of patrons of any particular bar are going to be late on at least one credit card payment a year, while only 10% of another bar will be. They have filters for gender, class, education level, income and can predict that if you buy this type of lawn mower, you are going to send you kids to this type of school, 75% of the time. Correlations and statistical relationships are beyond a fine art, they are becoming an exact science.

The lines between government, corporations and other institutions are blurry with the same people moving from one to another, but their goal is the same: to protect themselves and to make money--as much as they can, as quickly as they can. The issue is control and a great and great percentage of effort is going into regulation and manipulation the population--and not to their benefit. All the information in My Space, FaceBook and the like is being stored forever. When some of these kids want to apply for a loan in 30 years, some of this is going to haunt them.

In East Germany, which I had the great luck to visit frequenlty when studying in Berlin in 1989, the Stazi was reputed to have the most sophisticated computers in the world. It was all hype--they had thousands and thousands of drones in sensible shoes and hair nets with index cards, recording the movements of the population, then reporting on the people making the reports, and then reporting on those reporters. I have never seen such a stagnant society--essentally dead, and with the bullet holes from WWII still visible in major buildings. Taking care of their population wasn't important, controlling them, was. I will always remember the lines in Berlin which formed at dawn waiting for fruit to come in from the countryside. And Berlin got 60% of the country's wealth funneled into it as a showcase for communism.

What is happening in the UK and US is that the government is more concerned with control than with setting policy and making tough decisions. Common themes like the very real problem of child abuse are being used to to "save" and "protect"people from themselves. And in the US, it is the billion dollar drug war, as well as the hype re: the moral failing of gay marriage. They are all useful ploys to take away personal freedoms and personal responsibiliy. And to this we can add the fantasy that the Muslims are coming to get us all--now that the communists are gone.

This is not a liberal or conservative issue as I see, but one of the role of government. Do we really want the government to tell us when we are alive and when we can die? Or what we can put into our bodies as adults? Do we think that somehow, some bureacrat knows all of this and is really looking out for us. And that by monitoring every porn site we visit out of normal curiousity that it can be brought up when we run for the local city council?

Everything is being recorded now and a highly placed IT friend tells me that e-mails are mined evey day to record the frequently of key works and associations of those words. Thus, if I write, Obama's speach bombed, it does on record. This is serious stuff and it isn't going to get any better until everybody knows about it and does their damnest to prevent it.
 
This is a political thread because basically everything in life is political--something recognized by more or less, the first democracy, Classical Greece.

Knowledge is power. The government, the corporations and think tanks are mining everybody, every day, to get as much information as possible. They will use it against it, anyway they can. They know, for example, that 45% of patrons of any particular bar are going to be late on at least one credit card payment a year, while only 10% of another bar will be. They have filters for gender, class, education level, income and can predict that if you buy this type of lawn mower, you are going to send you kids to this type of school, 75% of the time. Correlations and statistical relationships are beyond a fine art, they are becoming an exact science.

The lines between government, corporations and other institutions are blurry with the same people moving from one to another, but their goal is the same: to protect themselves and to make money--as much as they can, as quickly as they can. The issue is control and a great and great percentage of effort is going into regulation and manipulation the population--and not to their benefit. All the information in My Space, FaceBook and the like is being stored forever. When some of these kids want to apply for a loan in 30 years, some of this is going to haunt them.

In East Germany, which I had the great luck to visit frequenlty when studying in Berlin in 1989, the Stazi was reputed to have the most sophisticated computers in the world. It was all hype--they had thousands and thousands of drones in sensible shoes and hair nets with index cards, recording the movements of the population, then reporting on the people making the reports, and then reporting on those reporters. I have never seen such a stagnant society--essentally dead, and with the bullet holes from WWII still visible in major buildings. Taking care of their population wasn't important, controlling them, was. I will always remember the lines in Berlin which formed at dawn waiting for fruit to come in from the countryside. And Berlin got 60% of the country's wealth funneled into it as a showcase for communism.

What is happening in the UK and US is that the government is more concerned with control than with setting policy and making tough decisions. Common themes like the very real problem of child abuse are being used to to "save" and "protect"people from themselves. And in the US, it is the billion dollar drug war, as well as the hype re: the moral failing of gay marriage. They are all useful ploys to take away personal freedoms and personal responsibiliy. And to this we can add the fantasy that the Muslims are coming to get us all--now that the communists are gone.

This is not a liberal or conservative issue as I see, but one of the role of government. Do we really want the government to tell us when we are alive and when we can die? Or what we can put into our bodies as adults? Do we think that somehow, some bureacrat knows all of this and is really looking out for us. And that by monitoring every porn site we visit out of normal curiousity that it can be brought up when we run for the local city council?

Everything is being recorded now and a highly placed IT friend tells me that e-mails are mined evey day to record the frequently of key works and associations of those words. Thus, if I write, Obama's speach bombed, it does on record. This is serious stuff and it isn't going to get any better until everybody knows about it and does their damnest to prevent it.


Excellent post! Question is, what can be done?



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