Pro bowl Bench competition

[MDT]

Pro Bowl bench competition- 225lbs for reps
Won by Larry Allen OG for San Fran (6'3" 325lbs)
40 reps

Not bad, I'm sure we got some members who could give these guys a run for their money, but fun to watch.

 

[b-boy]

Pro Bowl bench competition- 225lbs for reps
Won by Larry Allen OG for San Fran (6'3" 325lbs)
40 reps

Not bad, I'm sure we got some members who could give these guys a run for their money, but fun to watch.

there are members here that weigh 100 pounds less and can do that.

 

[gettnlarge01]

I'm only 5'8" at 210lbs and do 225lbs for 30reps. For their size those guys aren't that impressive to me.

 

[loganb_football]

I'm only 5'8" at 210lbs and do 225lbs for 30reps. For their size those guys aren't that impressive to me.

theres a difference between types of strength. The bench press for me, seems like a horrible way to measure someones strength...

You can have a max of 500 pounds and be able to do 225 for 30 reps.

While another person might be able to bench 225 for 30 reps and his max bench is ony 400.

It has quite a bit to do with fiber makeup, endurance, etc. Trust me some of these guys might not be able to get a lot of reps, but some of them can put up some major numbers.

 

[big E]

I believe when Larry Allen played for the Cowboys there were reports he benched 700lbs raw. He's definitely one of the strongest NFL players out there and most others aren't as strong as some might believe. Their size does not correlate to being strong in the weight room. Larry Allen has a huge advantage to his bench pressing #'s because his chest(overall size) is enormous and his arms are short so his range of motion is less than average. Most big lineman are 300lbs but are 6'6 and have extremely long arms so that is a huge detriment as far as bench pressing but an advantage for blocking D-lineman. Just my 2 cents!

 

[SVFootball]

some members on here may be stronger, but i bet there are very few (if any) members on here who could go up against larry allen with pads on the line

give these guys some credit, they're in the NFL for a reason. i bet he could man-handle almost everyone on this board with no problem. one thing ive learned about football, even at the college level, is that strenght in the weightroom doesn't directly correlate to strength on the field. i know guys who arent abnormally strong in the weightroom, put up maybe 245-275 for 8 reps, but who can just throw people around on the field. dont underestimate these athletes...they are definitaly first class

 

[Matte220]

some members on here may be stronger, but i bet there are very few (if any) members on here who could go up against larry allen with pads on the line

give these guys some credit, they're in the NFL for a reason. i bet he could man-handle almost everyone on this board with no problem. one thing ive learned about football, even at the college level, is that strenght in the weightroom doesn't directly correlate to strength on the field. i know guys who arent abnormally strong in the weightroom, put up maybe 245-275 for 8 reps, but who can just throw people around on the field. dont underestimate these athletes...they are definitaly first class

I was thinking the same thing SVFootball!

 

[Matte220]

I'm only 5'8" at 210lbs and do 225lbs for 30reps. For their size those guys aren't that impressive to me.

Strength wise or athletic ability?

 

[Steak Helmet]

some members on here may be stronger, but i bet there are very few (if any) members on here who could go up against larry allen with pads on the line

give these guys some credit, they're in the NFL for a reason. i bet he could man-handle almost everyone on this board with no problem. one thing ive learned about football, even at the college level, is that strenght in the weightroom doesn't directly correlate to strength on the field. i know guys who arent abnormally strong in the weightroom, put up maybe 245-275 for 8 reps, but who can just throw people around on the field. dont underestimate these athletes...they are definitaly first class

I could not agree more. When I met MArk Rypien and realized he is 6'4" 245lbs and D-lineman and linebackers toss him around with one hand while sitting on their heels...I was impressed. So what if they cannot bench 225 for 100 reps, that is not their job Chucking people is their job.

You guys remember when HErshal Walker was on that one show (stars??) and he pressed 385 above his head...and he never touched weights....he just did 1000 push-ups and 1,000 sit-ups a day...oh yeah and he would lift baby cattle over the fence.

these guys have amazing athletic ability...I know you were not doubting their athletic ability, I am sure you were just thinking that these guys should be able to do more weight for more reps....heck he probably has not touched a weight seriously since back in June...yeah he worked out a bit during the season, but I assure you he was not maxing out or trashing his body in the weight room like we do

 

[Iabadman]

Believe me Larry Allen could smash anyone here ,including myself in anything remotely close to the functional strength involving his sport and that goes for any NFL lineman.............Remember, I spent two uneventful years at that level . I was a strong safety 6'-6'1 228lbs at the time and a very good athlete.[ one of the biggest safeties around .........I still would be ] .In high school ,juco , and even college I could blow up lineman on most run plays....I was a big hitter ....but top college lineman and especially NFL guys ,just crushed me head up ,which was very hard on my ego let me tell you[ Watch NFL linebacker /legend Ray Lewis play closely .....even at his best ......at 6'1 240 ....if his d-line doesn't keep guys off him .....he gets smashed by o-lineman most of the time....same with a 260 lb stud like Brian Urlatcher...] And believe me average o-lineman bench between 405 and 500 and squat and dead in the 600s.......[ this is just your average ] If you don't think that is strong raw ,then you guys are fooling yourselves........NFL guys are by far [combine ,strength , speed , agility ,and ferocity are the best in the world period ] These guys have trained to be explosive ,not for a 225 endurance contest [ they use that as a tool ,so guys don't get hurt ........more as a measuring stick than a judgement of strength ]......BBers are horrible athletes in general .....the type of training they do makes them slower [including the cardio ]....Comparing your lifts to an NFL player.....Is like a bber thinking he can fight because he is strong and has muscles.......I can not tell you how many times in all my years have I seen bbers just get their asses kicked by skinney guys that couldn't even bench 225.......bbers are artists more than athletes.....and the fact they call guys standing on a stage in their underware a sport makes me laugh.....lol.....it is a beautful [when done right ] artist expression of oneself ....when bbers think they athletes because they have muscles and can move some heavy iron......they are fooling themselves everytime......sports and bbing two opposite things IMO ....bbers have my total respect for what they do .....I am a huge and alway will be ......I love hearing all these bbers saying they run 4.3 40s and shit .............Take Kevin Levore .....he saying he was running 4.2s and challeged Dwane Chambers to a race who was a world class sprinter......ha ha.....he got smoked and at the 40 yd time his split was 4.8 ......and that was out of blocks .....he would not break a 5.0 under NFL conditions[many 320lb lineman get close to that and he was 235 when he raced Chambers....] Some of these guys may have been fast at one time ,but bbing traing makes you less athletic ......ask any stregth coach if I am talking out of my ass........Bbers are awesome for what they do .....but they go wrong when they compare themselves to athletes .Athletes don't care how much they can bench .They care about what lifting translates into their sport......see my point.....not being negative toward anyone here at all ......just want my boys here not to fool themselves....believe me ,when I was younger I did as well .....

 

[b-boy]

Believe me Larry Allen could smash anyone here ,including myself in anything remotely close to the functional strength involving his sport and that goes for any NFL lineman.............Remember, I spent two uneventful years at that level . I was a strong safety 6'-6'1 228lbs at the time and a very good athlete.[ one of the biggest safeties around .........I still would be ] .In high school ,juco , and even college I could blow up lineman on most run plays....I was a big hitter ....but top college lineman and especially NFL guys ,just crushed me head up ,which was very hard on my ego let me tell you[ Watch NFL linebacker /legend Ray Lewis play closely .....even at his best ......at 6'1 240 ....if his d-line doesn't keep guys off him .....he gets smashed by o-lineman most of the time....same with a 260 lb stud like Brian Urlatcher...] And believe me average o-lineman bench between 405 and 500 and squat and dead in the 600s.......[ this is just your average ] If you don't think that is strong raw ,then you guys are fooling yourselves........NFL guys are by far [combine ,strength , speed , agility ,and ferocity are the best in the world period ] These guys have trained to be explosive ,not for a 225 endurance contest [ they use that as a tool ,so guys don't get hurt ........more as a measuring stick than a judgement of strength ]......BBers are horrible athletes in general .....the type of training they do makes them slower [including the cardio ]....Comparing your lifts to an NFL player.....Is like a bber thinking he can fight because he is strong and has muscles.......I can not tell you how many times in all my years have I seen bbers just get their asses kicked by skinney guys that couldn't even bench 225.......bbers are artists more than athletes.....and the fact they call guys standing on a stage in their underware a sport makes me laugh.....lol.....it is a beautful [when done right ] artist expression of oneself ....when bbers think they athletes because they have muscles and can move some heavy iron......they are fooling themselves everytime......sports and bbing two opposite things IMO ....bbers have my total respect for what they do .....I am a huge and alway will be ......I love hearing all these bbers saying they run 4.3 40s and shit .............Take Kevin Levore .....he saying he was running 4.2s and challeged Dwane Chambers to a race who was a world class sprinter......ha ha.....he got smoked and at the 40 yd time his split was 4.8 ......and that was out of blocks .....he would not break a 5.0 under NFL conditions[many 320lb lineman get close to that and he was 235 when he raced Chambers....] Some of these guys may have been fast at one time ,but bbing traing makes you less athletic ......ask any stregth coach if I am talking out of my ass........Bbers are awesome for what they do .....but they go wrong when they compare themselves to athletes .Athletes don't care how much they can bench .They care about what lifting translates into their sport......see my point.....not being negative toward anyone here at all ......just want my boys here not to fool themselves....believe me ,when I was younger I did as well .....

Ok just for the record i didn't say i was better or stronger than any NFL guy, but let me say this, doing 225 for reps i can hang with any NFL guy thats is all im saying, so could justin harris and a whole lot of bodybuilders, i didn't say a lot of guys on here could out bench or out squat or anything i just said a lot of people could put 225 up for that many reps and don't weight anywhere near 300 pounds. Now i love the notion that bodybuilders aren't athletes, do all you guys just think that when i was younger i said hey im going to be a bodybuilder when i grow up!! ha actually I and a lot of people around me when i was in my early 20's thought i had a good chance of become a very very good boxer (boxed for about 4 yrs) and had great natural ability (just cause your big doesn't mean you can throw a good punch) punching is an ability than some just have and others learn after a lot of years and some never learn at all. and O yea my work buddy has a son that is a sophmore at Heath Highschool and is a damn damn damn good football and basketball player, they said they clocked him at a 4.3 in practice and i was impressed so i asked him to race for the hell of it, we ran 40 yards 3 times and i won 2 out of the three (he took off early on the one) this is the third guy in my area that people said were fast as hell and i beat in the 40 yard dash! So please don't everyone get the stereotype that bodybuilder aren't athletic, the best thing is that my short stocky ass shocks the hell out of people playing basketball, people can't belive how good my jump shot is (when i am acutally shooting for a while..LOL) and how high i can jump. Most bodybuilders come from an athletic background.. some of you ballers challenge phil heath to a game of one on one..LOL

 

[KBarizona]

B-Boy, I believe you have summed up why some bodybuilders walk around with a certain arrogance of say a Ray Lewis, a Terrel Owens, a Floyd Mayweather, a Vince Carter, a Phillip Rivers, a Ladanian Tomlison, a Bernard Hopkins, etc... These guys have a skill set that is not going to be obtained by just lifting weights, doing cardio, supplementing, and dieting AND THEY KNOW IT!!!

The bodybuilders that have never excelled in "sports" (middle school, high school, college, etc...) tend to be quick to down other athletes in other sports. Why? because that elite talent is not what they were born with. We need to not display arrogance toward other athletes if we want to be viewed as athletes. True athletes respect what other athletes do in their selective sports because we recognize that it requires a "special" skill to perform on such a high level. "We" meaning ALL BODYBUILDERS need to realize this and represent the sport of Bodybuilding in this way. I am speaking to the Competitive Bodybuilders on this board - no one else. God Bless and enjoy the ProBowl.

KB

 

[Iabadman]

b-boy....I have no doubts that you are an amazing athlete my friend...none...at all......but let's face it ,you are one in thousands ....If I make it through this illness [I am heading back to the hosiptal in 15 mins] I am going to make it out to see you do nationals [bring your running shoes....ha ha ....sunday we are going to race......maybe play alittle one on one somewhere too......can I tempt you into a dunk contest? ....hee hee....If you are breaking 4.3s you will dust my old ass ....but it will be fun chasing you for the sake of it .....ha ha ,,,,maybe for dinner? .....]

Most pros can barely tie their shoe[ I have fucked the same girls as at least 4 very good pros and most couldn't lay it down.....cramps ,out of breath , could not keep wood,not flexiable.....ect....ha ha ....the amount of drugs and type of training robs most of their athletic ability] .....most can't run around the block or throw a punch with any real power.....they say this or that .....but the fact is I still know a few pros and I used know many more .....I actually have tried to fight a top 10 Mr O finisher before.....and I watched a top NPC guy and two pros try to grapple.....it was almost funny .....so yes , there a freaks like you in sport .[ I read somewhere Ronnie can dunk still ...wow .....at his size ....and height ...that is insane.....and to me Levrone is still amazing] But when these guys throw 4.3s around .....I laugh .The NFL combine invites the top 200 prospects to Indie for the combine.....you might get 3 -6 guys in a fast year that run in the 4.3s .....That is out of the best 200 in the country ......guys that have been in top universities for 4-5 yrs in a very competive environment with top coaching . And many were being coached by good programs and people early on in HS to be fast[most fast NFL guys beat the world's fast sprinters in a 40 with no blocks]. And you are telling me that their bbers out there running 4.3 s?[with zero training for it ?] I am going to have to say I think not . T.O. or L.T. don.t run 4.3 .....Ask Justin Harris how fast 4.3 is ?[with a 4.3 you are beating a world class 4.5 guy by 5-10 yds ....that is just sick ...ask justin what that looks like] He went to a combine .[BTW he is an amazing athlete like you and he ran like 4.7ish when training for it for years....If he was 6'4 instead of 5'10 he would be an all pro NFL DE er IMo] People throw 4.3s around like they do 500 lb bench presses .......you know how many 500lb benches I have seen in person besides myself with no shirt and good form........I would say less than 20 guys I have personally seen under those conditions.....and that is training in Venice at times ,Pacific Beach Golds [ when Milos , Sonny , Nasser , Paul Jean , Rick Stevenson, Achim were all training there] , and a very hardcore gym up here that produced [national champ ,numerous MR cal holders .....and tons of title winners] .....I have been training since I was ten .....been able to compete with some of the best athletes in the world in two sports and that is all I have ever seen........example I had a bber [won some shows ] that started working for me . He was telling everyone that he benched 600 lbs ......I said ," really? lets go to the gym then " He said ," no problem" we went in ,warmed up ....and went for it he couldnt do anymore than 405 and I did 3 times [my days over 500lbs are long gone].....He seemed stunned that he couldn't do more and said he had a bad day . And I said ," by 200 lbs?' He really convinced himself that he was a 600 lb bencher .....I have seen this stuff my whole life....lol.....bber have the easier said than mentallity more often than not......you my friend are an exception without a doubt....

 

[loganb_football]

some members on here may be stronger, but i bet there are very few (if any) members on here who could go up against larry allen with pads on the line

give these guys some credit, they're in the NFL for a reason. i bet he could man-handle almost everyone on this board with no problem. one thing ive learned about football, even at the college level, is that strenght in the weightroom doesn't directly correlate to strength on the field. i know guys who arent abnormally strong in the weightroom, put up maybe 245-275 for 8 reps, but who can just throw people around on the field. dont underestimate these athletes...they are definitaly first class

I like to call it game speed and game strength... Its almost like they transform into some hulk... Ive only seen a few guys with this.

 

[SVFootball]

I like to call it game speed and game strength... Its almost like they transform into some hulk... Ive only seen a few guys with this.

only a few???? every guy i play with is like this...

 

[HawaiiMuscle]

The NFL player is trained for power, speed, and explosiveness. If you really want to test his strength have him do a power clean. I'm sure the majority would blow most bbers out of the water.

 

[b-boy]

all good points and jason as always you make excellent points! Now please let me say this i have not been timed in the 40 so hell i may run a 5.5 (LOL) but all i know is everytime someone around the paducah area says they are fast then i just for the fun of it race them, and the majority of the time i win! so people begin to speculate what i run cause i beat so and so and he runs x time in the forty.

football players are way better athletes than bodybuilders! point blank, they train for athletic performance, but doing 225 for reps is kinda going into a bodybuilders world so it favors a bodybuilder, at the arnold some years they have a bench your bodyweight for reps and many people do quite damn well, i seen a guy about 230 get if for 38 reps while i was watching, and this guy was just an average joe lifter, short stocky and could pump out some reps.

O yea and jason, I would rather put on some boxing gloves as i would play ya in basketball, but NO FEET! Just purely boxing by boxing rules. ha I have went with a couple of MMA guys from 4 rivers martial arts and damn it takes some getting use to watching out for a guys feet and his hands...LOL
and Jason there is a national level bodybuilder named johnathan johnson aka T.T. from up in cleveland, Ohio that can probably def. still run a 4.3 fourty, he won the state 100 meter dash when in highschool and is still fast as all hell, bigwilly knows of him and knows hes fast as fuck.

Shit i wish i would have continued with football, but i was a knucklehead that wanted to beat everyone up when i was younger and it cost me a lot, but things have worked out for the best..LOL but damn i miss football! Im from Ironton, Ohio and they live, eat and drink football in that town, in highschool we were state runner ups my junior year and state champs my senior year, my junior year we lost to lebron james highschool, Akron st. vincent st. mary's, big fucking school damn i miss football!

every sport has exeptional athletes! they may be more prevailing in certain sports but none the less they are in every sport, shit tiger woods is a pretty good athlete at other sports

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dJGw7uKPeP4
justin harris repping 225 and its sloppy just like NFL guys so don't talk shit, I believe he would have won the contest with this showing..LOL

 

[healthfreak79]

All this bench talk, lets remember that NFL players are drug free. With the genetics that the top NFL players have you put them on some gear and training they will blow away half of the ifbb in no time.

 

[big E]

I'll some this up for anyone who still doubts. Try and google NFL pro Adam Archalde(not sure on spelling). Played college football at colorado stae and came into the NFL with the Rams and now is on another team, possibly the Saints. Plays safety and is maybe 5'10 or 5'11 and weighs arouns 185-190lbs. He had a workout filmed when he was graduating college I believe and getting ready for the NFL. This kid has the craziest strength and explosiveness you may ever see. One other example is a former NFL linebacker who's name escapes me, Bryan......? He's like 6'4 around 240-250 and played with the Eagles,jets,pats, he's a Parcell's guy. Met him at an high school camp for football players and asked him if he ever worked out with weights because it was always mentioned by him and others that he never touched a weight and if he had to bench 225 he would be lucky to get a few reps, his words. Well he was doing some drills with a 300lb NFL lineman and was throwing him around like a rag doll. Lawrence Taylor was never a weight lifter and would throw lineman around himself. The athletic ability and natural strength of the NFL guys is unbelievable and not something measured by a bench press. Go on youtube and watch the fullback from Wisconsin who squats 700lbs for reps,very deep reps to, and I looked for him during the season and couldn't find him on the field. Now you would believe that a FB who squats 700lbs for reps and weighs around 250 would make it in the NFL and I didn't see him on the field in a college game. Maybe he might someday but you get my point. He should be there now if weight-lifting strength was a test for football greatness.

 

[Matte220]

drug free? The only sport that's df is golf and even that's being questioned.