PROOF THAT HUSH AND CYBER-RIGHTS ARENT' SAFE!

[Kane]

Here's some notable extracts from the Osoca Labs indictment, for those of you who still doubt the feds' access to emails:

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4. On June 6, 2007, DEA SA Shawn Riley received three CD's via Fed Ex from the DEA San Diego Division Office. The CD's were the result of a mutual legal assistance treaty ("MLAT") executed on Hush Communications Inc, based in Canada, for e-mail addresses [email protected] and [email protected]. Hush Communications Inc., also known as Hush Mail, is a free encrypted email communication system that claims to ensure the security, privacy, and authenticity of emails sent and received by it's users. A majority of source of supplies ("SOS") that are distributing raw steroid product from China, operators of UGL in the United States who convert anabolic steroid ******s into usable injectible or oral anabolic steroids, and customers of the UGL'S utilize Hush Communications Inc, to facilitate the manufacturing, distribution, and purchase of illicit anabolic steroids.
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5. A review of e-mails from e-mail address [email protected] between February 14, 2007 and May 17, 2007, revealed OSOCA filled 88 separate anabolic steroid orders for a total sale of $36,024.00. During a review of the e-mails, SA Shawn Riley identified OSOCA'S Chinese SOS for bulk ******ed anabolic steroids as "GLP". GLP was using the email address [email protected] to communicate with OSOCA. The e-mails between [email protected] and [email protected] showed there were two shipments of bulk ******ed anabolic steroids from GLP to OSOCA. Both orders were sent to Tyler STUMBO at 9530 Hageman, Suite B, #192, Bakersfield, CA. An address check revealed 9530 Hageman, Suite B, #192, Bakersfield, CA is a UPS Store.
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9. On June 15, 2007, SA [DEA Special Agent] Shawn Riley received the results of Administrative Subpoena 2007-190 sent to Bright House Networks/Road Runner for internet protocol ("IP") addresses associated with [email protected] which is used by OSOCABRO LABS. The results of the MLAT conducted on [email protected] included an IP log associated with access to this e-mail account. SA Riley conducted a sampling of eight IP addresses logging onto the [email protected] e-mail account between March 29, 2007 and May 17, 2007 and requested the subscriber using the IP addresses. Bright House Networks/Road Runner indicated the eight IP addresses sampled were accessed by account 609020-03 subscribed to "Tyler S. STTUMBO" with a listed address of 5702 Rockwell Drive, Bakersfield, CA 93308 and phone number 661-703-2480. This account was installed on November 29, 2006 and is currently active.
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10. The results of this subpoena included account transaction details for card number ________________ SA Riley reviewed the transaction details and located the following orders to companies supplying equipment used in the manufacturing and distribution of anabolic steroids:
... [Daigger, Capsuline, Le Melange, Research Supply, E-Bottles, Col-Parmer (sic)]
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15. On Sept 7, DEA SA Shawn Riley received nine CD's via Fed Ex from the DEA San Diego Division Office. The CD's were the result of a mutual legal assistance treaty ("MLAT") executed on Hush Communications Inc, based in Canada, for e-mail addresses [email protected], [email protected], and [email protected]. The analysis of the second MLAT revealed 45 separate anabolic steroid orders between May 29, 2007, and August 20, 2007 for a total sale of $18,977.00. Twenty two of the anabolic steroid orders were paid for by way of Green Dot. All of the money packs reloads were uploaded onto Green Dot account number 4852800001333917, which was previously identified as the account belonging to STUMBO.

 

[maldorf]

Yeah, if you read the conditions on hushmail you will see where they state that the law can gain access to your account if they go through the proper channels.

 

[yautja]

if hush and cyber are being comprimised by the law is there any other secure mail we can use ?

 

[BeenGone]

Mabey im retarded ,but I didnt see cyber-rights mentioned at all in that article?As far as I know/knew cyber-rights is out of england not canada(hushmail)I could be wrong.That being said if LE wants to get you bad enuf they will bend the rules till they get you.Even if someone or some info is not in their jurisdiction ,they can ,and do "lean on/apply pressure/get creative" on those that do have jurisdiction till they give up you/the info

 

[oldfella]

Nothing transmitted electronicly is safe! This is why you need to be ultra careful in everything you say and do! If it can be sent by wire or waves it can be intercepted or cracked!

 

[Kane]

Nothing transmitted electronicly is safe! This is why you need to be ultra careful in everything you say and do! If it can be sent by wire or waves it can be intercepted or cracked!

Exactly!!

 

[buffbabeca]

that's it i am going back to using my piece of string and paper cups.. this is insane....

 

[VanR__]

When this is all over (if it ever is) sources need to learn not to stock info in their friggin' inboxes. Communicate, then delete it. Don't pile up names and sales from 2 years ago.

 

[willpwr82]

big brutha is always watching

 

[Big A]

I still don't understand why people don't use PGP. The last safe version (pre 9/11) is 6.5.8

 

[maldorf]

I still don't understand why people don't use PGP. The last safe version (pre 9/11) is 6.5.8

How do you go about doing that? Many of us arent too good when it comes to this kind of knowledge. Help us out!

 

[trapz]

ive been posting this for i dont know how long.... its easy heres a quick run througgh you can get started and be using it i n 30 min

**broken link removed**

 

[trapz]

Mabey im retarded ,but I didnt see cyber-rights mentioned at all in that article?As far as I know/knew cyber-rights is out of england not canada(hushmail)I could be wrong.That being said if LE wants to get you bad enuf they will bend the rules till they get you.Even if someone or some info is not in their jurisdiction ,they can ,and do "lean on/apply pressure/get creative" on those that do have jurisdiction till they give up you/the info

cyber-rights uses hush email servers.

and here is some MLAT info,

take a good long look at the countries we have these agreements with

countries with MLAT treaties

http://travel.state.gov/law/info/jud...icial_690.html

and an excerpt, basically they can make up the rules while prosecuting you, but you have to defend yourself obtaining info and evidence guided by the laws in your host country.

"Criminal Cases Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters Treaties: Since the first U.S. bilateral Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty (MLAT) entered into force with Switzerland in 1977, our MLATs have become an increasingly important. They seek to improve the effectiveness of judicial assistance and to regularize and facilitate its procedures. Each country designates a central authority, generally the two Justice Departments, for direct communication. The treaties include the power to summon witnesses, to compel the production of documents and other real evidence, to issue search warrants, and to serve process. Generally, the remedies offered by the treaties are only available to the prosecutors. The defense must usually proceed with the methods of obtaining evidence in criminal matters under the laws of the host country, which usually involve letters rogatory. See also general information in Obtaining Evidence Abroad."

so they can use these treaties to gain all sorts of evidence on you, and as the defendant you can only request info in your defense that are part of the laws in your host country.


hello NWO

 

[Flex4777]

ive been posting this for i dont know how long.... its easy heres a quick run througgh you can get started and be using it i n 30 min

**broken link removed**

EXCELLENT!!! Thank you Trapz!

 

[trapz]

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The Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty is an agreement between the two foreign countries, for the purpose of gathering and exchanging information in an effort to enforce criminal laws.

This assistance may take the form of examining and identifying people, places and things, custodial transfers, and providing assistance with the immobilization of the instruments of criminal activity. With regards to the latter, MLATs between the United States and Caribbean nations do not cover U.S. tax evasion, and are therefore ineffective when applied to Caribbean countries, which usually act as offshore "tax havens." *1

Assistance may be denied by either country (according to agreement details) for political or security reasons, or if the criminal offence in question is not equally punishable in both countries. Some treaties may encourage assistance with legal aid for nationals in other countries.

 

[KillerStack]

I don't know shit about computers etc, but someone who is an expert, please answer this: can the government gain access to your hush e-mails without the password (unless either by you giving it to them or installing a key logger etc)??

What I see is that they got the IP numbers only from hush, if I read it correctly. Can the communication itself be accessed?

I mean, hush claim they cannot give the gov access because it's impossible even for them.

 

[Pele96]

what about safemail?

 

[Kaiser]

I have been saying this for years about those email providers. Besides what BigA said about PGP 6.5, you can also encrypt your message in a zip file and give it a long password with alpha-numeric & control caharacters. If the password is over 10 characters, they ain't getting in for a years.

 

[nosejob]

I have been saying this for years about those email providers. Besides what BigA said about PGP 6.5, you can also encrypt your message in a zip file and give it a long password with alpha-numeric & control caharacters. If the password is over 10 characters, they ain't getting in for a years.

the miliatary is what developed pgp is it not?

if so wouldnt they know of backdoor ways to get into pgp too?

 

[Kaiser]

the miliatary is what developed pgp is it not?

if so wouldnt they know of backdoor ways to get into pgp too?

I am not sure who created PGP, but before and inclusive of 6.5, there was no back door.