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The " game " means very little to me anymore. There are losers in this game bu,t they are not who you might initially think of when considering who obviously, has lost and who appears to be winning.
The losers are the guys who did not own their own sh*t and in an effort to save themselves dragged others into the fire with them.
I saw winners go down in ORD. good guys who I admire for their courage and integrity.
As much as I support Law Enforcement generally, I feel they should have to work hard for their money like everyone else has to.
Some of you guys make it too easy on them. The good thing is that it is guys like you that they build their careers on top of.
I have spent my time in this community critiquing the mistakes of others and sharing my observations and opinions whenever I thought I could save someone from the experience of having their lives rocked from the negative experience of a supplement related incident.
For all you USA guys who today send every source inquiries like " can you get powders " I just want to say right off the bat, you are sheep preparing yourselves for the slaughter; or we could just say, you are idiots.
You could ask Maverick, Sides, or Rags for advice on this subject, but unfortunately, they are serving time in federal prison and could not respond. They were good guys who had far more going for themselves then you will ever have. But they are gone, and, most likely, you won't be hearing from them again.
I do this post out of respect for these men as they are the heros in this game. They are not losers at all. They went through the fire and owned their own sh*t which shows more balls then most of us will ever have. But they paid a high price and so did their families. Knowing them, I can honestly say, they would want me to write this in an attempt to spare you and your loved ones from the experience that led to their inprisonment.
Review The EDS thread.
You don't manufacture in the USA!!! PERIOD!!
1. The easiest sting in the world today to setup is a powder sting and there are a ton of you guys waiting to be sucked in.
2. Powder suppliers have absolutely no history of protecting their customers from Law Enforcement. There are arrests still waiting to be made from the information that was provided to Law Enforcement by powder suppliers in ORD.
3. Research Chemicals??? You are kidding yourself. Whether it was animal implants, or clomid in solution, you are gonna have as much force applied against you as you would if you were selling gear.
4. When the shit hits the fan, and it will, where you put the pill press?? EDS must have thought hiding it under the bed was going to work.
5. Get those 10 kilos of powder ordered and delivered and maybe next year you to can have an indictment like Maverick did that so accurately spelled out and quantified nearly exactly the level of operation he had going on.
The desire to save 2 bucks on a vial or 4 cents on a tab by doing it yourself is what will destroy your life in a very big way. Better to let someone else manufacture your supplements internationally, pay the additional amount and bring that 10 kilos of supplements in piecemeal thereby diminishing your exposure. If you don't understand this, you should not be palying with gasoline and matches.
This post was for guys that have eyes to see. "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink". Unfortunately, there are about 5% of you who just don't get it, or won't get it, because you are blinded by other desires. Fortunately, for everyone else, you make the headlines and preoccupy law enforcement so others can remain safe. It doesn't have to be this way, but sadly, this is the way it has always been.
Unlike many of you, I have the utmost respect for most men and women in uniform. They are doing their jobs and I am grateful we have them. I do not agree with the direction the country is going in relationship to personal usage, but I don't make the rules, and neither do you. It is the way it is. Deal with it as it is, not as you wish it to be.
I do not participate in the game anymore and do not give advice beyond what I publically post. So please do not contact me.
Some very good men paid a very high price for the insight you just recieved.
I had few people willing to share these types of concerns with me early on. Everyone fended for themselves. I appreciate Big A's willingness to risk alittle along with me, in an attempt to save a few. I know it is his heart that if we can spare one family the experience of seeing their man taken from them, then the risk was worth it.
I love this board and I love this community.
Allbeef
The losers are the guys who did not own their own sh*t and in an effort to save themselves dragged others into the fire with them.
I saw winners go down in ORD. good guys who I admire for their courage and integrity.
As much as I support Law Enforcement generally, I feel they should have to work hard for their money like everyone else has to.
Some of you guys make it too easy on them. The good thing is that it is guys like you that they build their careers on top of.
I have spent my time in this community critiquing the mistakes of others and sharing my observations and opinions whenever I thought I could save someone from the experience of having their lives rocked from the negative experience of a supplement related incident.
For all you USA guys who today send every source inquiries like " can you get powders " I just want to say right off the bat, you are sheep preparing yourselves for the slaughter; or we could just say, you are idiots.
You could ask Maverick, Sides, or Rags for advice on this subject, but unfortunately, they are serving time in federal prison and could not respond. They were good guys who had far more going for themselves then you will ever have. But they are gone, and, most likely, you won't be hearing from them again.
I do this post out of respect for these men as they are the heros in this game. They are not losers at all. They went through the fire and owned their own sh*t which shows more balls then most of us will ever have. But they paid a high price and so did their families. Knowing them, I can honestly say, they would want me to write this in an attempt to spare you and your loved ones from the experience that led to their inprisonment.
Review The EDS thread.
You don't manufacture in the USA!!! PERIOD!!
1. The easiest sting in the world today to setup is a powder sting and there are a ton of you guys waiting to be sucked in.
2. Powder suppliers have absolutely no history of protecting their customers from Law Enforcement. There are arrests still waiting to be made from the information that was provided to Law Enforcement by powder suppliers in ORD.
3. Research Chemicals??? You are kidding yourself. Whether it was animal implants, or clomid in solution, you are gonna have as much force applied against you as you would if you were selling gear.
4. When the shit hits the fan, and it will, where you put the pill press?? EDS must have thought hiding it under the bed was going to work.
5. Get those 10 kilos of powder ordered and delivered and maybe next year you to can have an indictment like Maverick did that so accurately spelled out and quantified nearly exactly the level of operation he had going on.
The desire to save 2 bucks on a vial or 4 cents on a tab by doing it yourself is what will destroy your life in a very big way. Better to let someone else manufacture your supplements internationally, pay the additional amount and bring that 10 kilos of supplements in piecemeal thereby diminishing your exposure. If you don't understand this, you should not be palying with gasoline and matches.
This post was for guys that have eyes to see. "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink". Unfortunately, there are about 5% of you who just don't get it, or won't get it, because you are blinded by other desires. Fortunately, for everyone else, you make the headlines and preoccupy law enforcement so others can remain safe. It doesn't have to be this way, but sadly, this is the way it has always been.
Unlike many of you, I have the utmost respect for most men and women in uniform. They are doing their jobs and I am grateful we have them. I do not agree with the direction the country is going in relationship to personal usage, but I don't make the rules, and neither do you. It is the way it is. Deal with it as it is, not as you wish it to be.
I do not participate in the game anymore and do not give advice beyond what I publically post. So please do not contact me.
Some very good men paid a very high price for the insight you just recieved.
I had few people willing to share these types of concerns with me early on. Everyone fended for themselves. I appreciate Big A's willingness to risk alittle along with me, in an attempt to save a few. I know it is his heart that if we can spare one family the experience of seeing their man taken from them, then the risk was worth it.
I love this board and I love this community.
Allbeef
