pure oxygen benefits?

[ssdark1]

i have access to pure o2 and was wondering if anyone has any info or experiences using it while training. seems like i read somewhere that arnold used to use between sets. theoretically it seems as if it would be of great benefit...???

 

[oldfella]

Although not practical to carry an O2 bottle around the gym with you I have tried it. What you will get is a much faster recovery between sets. An enhanced amount of rich O2 in the blood via the lungs will make successive sets stronger, not significantly but yes it does work. You will recover faster after training too. This is why they sometimes treat football players in a hyperbaric chamber. It oxygenates their blood and enhaces healing/recovery of injuries.

 

[bhumik]

i might be wrong but i have heard taht pure oxygen for too long damages your lungs.

 

[vadim_b1]

obviously because pure O2 is a powerful oxidant

use it sparingly on leg days though for instance and its a wonderful tool.

 

[Tom]

NO......

Normal hemoglobin is 97% saturated with oxygen from room air.Administering 100% 02 will not significantly change much of anything outside of a placebo effect. Long duration of 100% 02 is harmful to the human body.

 

[vadim_b1]

20 rep squats?
Oxygen debt? Hello?

 

[maldorf]

Normal hemoglobin is 97% saturated with oxygen from room air.Administering 100% 02 will not significantly change much of anything outside of a placebo effect. Long duration of 100% 02 is harmful to the human body.

Have to agree here. Been told this by a professor in Grad school too. It makes perfect logical sense. Even when suffering from asthma as a child, my oxygen saturation never dropped below 92% or so.

 

[willylee]

I was told you can't smoke while using pure oxygen while working out. Something about blowing up and what not!;jumping-s j/k

Remember how Rocky beat Drago and Drago used pure O2 in his training.
Go Rocky! Yo Adrian!

Doesn't work in the long run. Your body will always compensate both aerobically and anaerobically. Pure 100% O2 is outside the normal realm of how your body really functions on a daily basis. Using 100% O2 might help in the short term but who really wants to train with a O2 mask at the gym all the time. Remember! Its not how good you train..Its how good you look doing it!

This is a J/K post! Well some of it.

I think Tom was referring to working out and using pure O2. Believe me when I say this as I know what I'm talking about. Using Pure 100% O2 is indicated in numerous medical settings and does not have a placebo effect.

 

[BOOMSHAKER]

Good for folks who suffer from Migrain headaches.

 

[OuchThatHurts]

Of course it would help! I think an elevated oxygen mixture in between sets would be great. I'd love it if my gym had that. Decreases duration of hyperventilation...

I assume many of you watch NFL or college football? It works very well. And because you don't have to waste a ton of energy gasping for air, you have that much more firepower.

Even though lifting weights is primarily anaerobic, anyone can tell you that after a set of 20 squats, you're pretty aerobic. What do you think you're gasping for? Hydrogen?

 

[superman21]

I would have to agree that a couple hits of O2 on leg day could make a big difference, but purely just for leg day cuz like it was said 20 rep squats and you standin there gaspin for oxygen..I wouldnt mind recoverin a lot faster and not be as winded. i think it would definitely come in handy but i would only use it on leg day.

 

[ssdark1]

so thats a definitive no from dad? im sure youve done the research but ive read studies that say aas will not increase muscle mass. not questioning you man, just thought id throw that out there.

i actually have tried to get info from places other than this muscle board but sometimes it can all be a bit contradicting and useless due to the fact most studies are not done with building muscle in mind. it may be crazy but i value the experiences of other like minded folk more sometimes.

ouch- those are good points about football players.

 

[maldorf]

Sorry to throw cold water on this party (well, actually I'm not), but there are NO benefits to pure O2, oxygen bars, or any of that if the partial pressure of oxygen is that of sea level.

In other words, unless yuo're at very high altitude, yuor red blood cells are saturated with all the O2 they can carry, so yuo won't add to this by sucking on pure O2.

Google in "Oxyhemoglobin Curve" and learn why this is an utter waste of time and ineffectual, unless yuo're at high altitude.

Oh, and as to hang-overs - the only thing that clears this is when the conversion of ethyl alcolhol goes first from aldehyde to then acetic acid. All dependant on the liver enzymes (ADH, and ADH) that do this.

Yuo guys need to get yuor info from places other than just muscle boards.

thanks Dad,very well put! Once your rbcs are saturated it doesnt matter how much O2 you pump into your body!

 

[OuchThatHurts]

It's cool. I'll just say that I agree and disagree and say I've personally been in situations where sucking the o's really did make a difference. There are many conditions that can cause O2 to drop, even if just mildly, below normal. Altitude (where I've been), also where inflammation of the lining of the lungs occurs when sucking wind in freezing weather (been there too) due to exertion.

I'm not implying it's a performance enhancement but there are times oxygen supplementation can help at least bring you out of a mild state of hypoxia. I have already experienced this myself. But yes of course I agree that in healthy persons under normal conditions, blood is already in an almost fully oxygenated state (or very close).

But we're not dealing with normal conditions and we're also not keeping within our body's normal limits (foolish as it may be). But they don't keep the o's on the sidelines for a placebo effect.

 

[Massive G]

I really don't have an opinion since I have never tried it-in the gym but always hear the "Arnold" myth. Just remember Arnold love to say things for the shock factor and to be different -he also said he had whiskey in his protein shakes.
yowsa.

I just wonder what/if the effects are on O2 levels when severely depleted and what those guys breathe on the side lines in the NFL after they run a 90 yard touchdown back.
seems if one was severely winded and depleted it would help them get their wind back but from a purely bb'ing stand point it's not going to help bulid muscle as if you are continually training hard in a work out hard enough to stimulate that kind of depletion of 02 it's going to be counterproductive as the effort will tear down the body.
I use an oxygen analyzer in one of our processes, and for example normal air is about 19-23% O2.

 

[Tom]

placebo

the body consumes O2 during exercise and i would imagine that O2 saturation would decrease as cells are consuming it... that is why you breath harder, deeper, and more frequent when exercising... so providing the body with pure oxygen may help the body recover faster. the pp of O2 decreases in the body as it is converted into CO2.

if pure O2 doesnt do anything then why do they give it to you in the hosptial... placebo effect?

02 is given for medical reasons like copd, lung cancer, and other disease states in which normal lung function is compromised. A healthy NFL athlete sucking on an oxygen mask on the sideline accomplishes absolutely nothing.

 

[Tom]

compensation

I really don't have an opinion since I have never tried it-in the gym but always hear the "Arnold" myth. Just remember Arnold love to say things for the shock factor and to be different -he also said he had whiskey in his protein shakes.
yowsa.

I just wonder what/if the effects are on O2 levels when severely depleted and what those guys breathe on the side lines in the NFL after they run a 90 yard touchdown back.
seems if one was severely winded and depleted it would help them get their wind back but from a purely bb'ing stand point it's not going to help bulid muscle as if you are continually training hard in a work out hard enough to stimulate that kind of depletion of 02 it's going to be counterproductive as the effort will tear down the body.
I use an oxygen analyzer in one of our processes, and for example normal air is about 19-23% O2.

They don't get depleted. Increased cardiac output compensates for the oxygen debt. The increased contractility and accelerated pulse carry the oxygenated blood to the tissues at a rate fast enough to compensate. In oxygen titration studies at rest and with activity normal healthy non-athletes do not desaturate. Athletes return to a resting state about 30% faster than non-athletes. Those with compromised lung function such as copd, lung cancer etc.do not reach normal saturation even with supplemental oxygen. The FDA considers oxygen a drug and you need a doctor's scrip to get it. There is no medical reason to have 02 on the sidelines and because the hemoglobin is still fully saturated even after a 90 yard run due to increased cardiac output , in a healthy athlete it does nothing.

 

[glacial_summit]

I once read an article a couple of years ago on research that was done with professional athletes on oxygen depletion. To sum things up, they said that the only way to increase oxygen levels in a normal athlete's blood stream was to increase the air pressure. So, unless your planning on training inside a hyperbaric chamber, I doubt that it would have any effect.

 

[Tom]

we give healthy patients O2 on the ambulance all the time.

and this makes sense?!!

 

[Tom]

it makes money sense.

serisiously though... all supplemental O2 does is turn atmospheric O2 (21%) into pure O2 (100%) in the lungs.... it doesnt make Hb more saturated .... if anything it would decrease respiratory rate.

Why would you think increased cardiac output would have nothing to do with oxgenation?