question about the rules..mods?

[ricorico]

Im new here, and i wanna make sure i understand the rules of the board so as to not violate them. Im a vet at a few other boards and ive noticed that theres a different ettiquete here. For example, i just seen a dude get banned for asking favorite brands of gear. Thats not a source question, but a pretty typical question on some other boards. Dunno....i just wanna obey the rules and make this place another home of mine

thanks for the help

 

[Sesshomaru]

Im new here, and i wanna make sure i understand the rules of the board so as to not violate them. Im a vet at a few other boards and ive noticed that theres a different ettiquete here. For example, i just seen a dude get banned for asking favorite brands of gear. Thats not a source question, but a pretty typical question on some other boards. Dunno....i just wanna obey the rules and make this place another home of mine

thanks for the help

Its an indirect source question. Sure he didnt say 'where can I get stuff' but the question he posted yields the same answer to a direct source question.

Additionally, If you read the rules, youll see that there is no advertising legal or otherwise of nonsponsors. That question allowed these types of responses.

Next, its easy for a person to bash a sponsor in a thread like that (i.e. X didnt come through, now I use Y) which is also against the rules because if you have an issue with sponsors, you need to take that up with the sponsor and/or a mod.

As you can see, such a question can open up a can of worms that is better left closed. If the poster wanted the answer to his question, he could have looked at any of the sponsor threads for testimonials.

 

[Dad]

Well said, Sess - thank you!

 

[ricorico]

aaahh, i gotcha. Thing is, question couldve been geared toward human grade products. I dunno...i understand i guess. Scared me as thats a question ive asked on other boards....but then again theres not sponsors or sources advertising. THanks for clearing it up

 

[ricorico]

one more question....if im on a cycle, lets say im using 'brand-x", and my results are subpar, am i out of line if i post my results>?
sorry for being a pain, i just wanna follow the rules and not piss anyone off, lol

 

[OuchThatHurts]

one more question....if im on a cycle, lets say im using 'brand-x", and my results are subpar, am i out of line if i post my results>?
sorry for being a pain, i just wanna follow the rules and not piss anyone off, lol

First things first. Nobody gets banned simply because a mod or admin gets pissed off. It's nothing personal. I know there are some salty banned members that don't believe that but it's true. Despite the rules, there is also a factor of trying to be proactive and eliminate problems before they arise at all. I've banned people on their first post but only because their first post was so foul and disgusting or inflammatory that you can simply see that individual is going to be a continual problem. So rather than giving warnings, answering nasty PM's regarding deleted posts, etc., the person is just eliminated. Remember that there are well over 20,000 members and maybe a dozen mods. We make mistakes, just like everyone. But still, this is the best board on the net.

Now this post of yours will set off a red flag in every mods head, like, "Uh oh... what sponsor is going to get a bad review now." Sometimes these "reviews" are by people with 3 posts and have have no idea what they are doing. I'm will to bet that 99 out of 100 of these are not even problems with 'brand-x' but more likely with 'username-x'.

Comments like this should be between you and 'brand-x'. We do not exist here to make sure your drugs are performing up to par and that your orders arrive on time. We don't have time for that! Try to remember that it's the sponsors that make the board possible. By trashing them openly before trying to get it resolved with them, you put the board at risk.

 

[Dad]

First things first. Nobody gets banned simply because a mod or admin gets pissed off. It's nothing personal. I know there are some salty banned members that don't believe that but it's true. Despite the rules, there is also a factor of trying to be proactive and eliminate problems before they arise at all. I've banned people on their first post but only because their first post was so foul and disgusting or inflammatory that you can simply see that individual is going to be a continual problem. So rather than giving warnings, answering nasty PM's regarding deleted posts, etc., the person is just eliminated. Remember that there are well over 20,000 members and maybe a dozen mods. We make mistakes, just like everyone. But still, this is the best board on the net.

Now this post of yours will set off a red flag in every mods head, like, "Uh oh... what sponsor is going to get a bad review now." Sometimes these "reviews" are by people with 3 posts and have have no idea what they are doing. I'm will to bet that 99 out of 100 of these are not even problems with 'brand-x' but more likely with 'username-x'.

Comments like this should be between you and 'brand-x'. We do not exist here to make sure your drugs are performing up to par and that your orders arrive on time. We don't have time for that! Try to remember that it's the sponsors that make the board possible. By trashing them openly before trying to get it resolved with them, you put the board at risk.

Ouch and Sess are going to put me out of business - there's nothing more I can add to these very well-written comments - well done again, guys!

 

[ricorico]

gotcha, just wanted to make sure i understood the rules...im excited to be here, im on some other boards and have always heard good things about promuscle....looking forward to giving and taking advice with you mofos

 

[Steak Helmet]

and it never hurts to PM a MOD or possibly a vet with a personal or iffy question before you decide to open post it.

 

[Eikowan]

Sometimes these "reviews" are by people with 3 posts

But if positive, the reviews stand and considered legit, right?

Comments like this should be between you and 'brand-x'.

Meaning what? If a sponsor blows it, it needs to be kept off the board? How is that helpful to the rest of the members? The positive stuff is posted, any problems need to be private?

I can totally understand "protecting" sponsors, hey, they pay, but seriously. If the owner is allowing heads-up sponsors, there won't be an issue? Take whoever is willing to pay for ad space? Surely, that isn't happening here. Right?

That being said, the net is full of whiners... with their bs stories of getting screwed, speaking too soon, foot in the mouth, etc., thats what makes being a mod tough. I own a forum (not BB related) with 76,000 members, have 23 mods and can appreciate the difficulty of making the judgement calls, but to openly state that the advertisers are covered no matter what is just a tad worrisome, when you consider the $$ involved and the fact that people are pumping the stuff into muscle.

I came to this board looking for a new "sponsor" since the recent enforcement took out 3 of my guys (and boards) and YES found a great one here. For that I'm appreciative. The service is top notch as well as the quality of the product. Fact is, I'm buying the stuff as fast as I can afford it before the source goes away or dries-up, even though I'm paying double what I did a year ago. If I had a problem with the source, I can't post it in the 20+ page thread of praise? Looking over that page, the VAST majority of posts (positive) were by members with less than 20 posts or one member in particular who's 50 or so total posts are made up of 90% sponsor praise.... Yet, low post count members with something negative to say are deleted or dismissed as noobs with an agenda? We members aren't intelligent enough to read an uncensored thread and come to our own conclusions? Maybe not.

I suppose "questioning the powers that be" may get the post deleted and/or me banned... oh well, I just couldn't help myself Just some random thoughts.

 

[OuchThatHurts]

But if positive, the reviews stand and considered legit, right?

No, we've deleted threads that pump products too. Just like threads that dump products. There are sponsor thread for this sort of thing.

Meaning what? If a sponsor blows it, it needs to be kept off the board? How is that helpful to the rest of the members? The positive stuff is posted, any problems need to be private?

Yes and no. Yes it needs to be kept off the board. Trust me, the mods have posted warnings NOT to use certain sponsors when it becomes likely that there will be problems. Ask any vet.

I can totally understand "protecting" sponsors, hey, they pay, but seriously. If the owner is allowing heads-up sponsors, there won't be an issue? Take whoever is willing to pay for ad space? Surely, that isn't happening here. Right?

No, it's not happening here...but I don't know you. You could be as dumb as a rock. What then? Let your dumbass post whatever you like?

That being said, the net is full of whiners... with their bs stories of getting screwed, speaking too soon, foot in the mouth, etc., thats what makes being a mod tough. I own a forum (not BB related) with 76,000 members, have 23 mods and can appreciate the difficulty of making the judgement calls, but to openly state that the advertisers are covered no matter what is just a tad worrisome, when you consider the $$ involved and the fact that people are pumping the stuff into muscle.

What board do you own? Sponsos "are covered"? Meaning what? If a sponsor and patron can't agree, that the admins look into it. Usually it ends up with some whining dipshit getting an order of free products.

I came to this board looking for a new "sponsor"

That doesn't sound good. You don't have to be a member to use the sponsors and if that is all your looking for, than why even join at all?

since the recent enforcement took out 3 of my guys (and boards) and YES found a great one here. For that I'm appreciative. The service is top notch as well as the quality of the product. Fact is, I'm buying the stuff as fast as I can afford it before the source goes away or dries-up, even though I'm paying double what I did a year ago. If I had a problem with the source, I can't post it in the 20+ page thread of praise? Looking over that page, the VAST majority of posts (positive) were by members with less than 20 posts or one member in particular who's 50 or so total posts are made up of 90% sponsor praise.... Yet, low post count members with something negative to say are deleted or dismissed as noobs with an agenda? We members aren't intelligent enough to read an uncensored thread and come to our own conclusions? Maybe not.

I suppose "questioning the powers that be" may get the post deleted and/or me banned... oh well, I just couldn't help myself Just some random thoughts.

Well hopefully you got some random answers. Anyway, I'm glad you were able to come here and illegally score some good drugs for yourself. But that's not what we're all about. This is a bodybuilding board/fitness/powerlifting board. The sponsors are mixed. Some sell apparel, acne cream, dietary supplements, and some sell anabolics to people in countries where they are legal. If you came here, as you say, to find a good 'source' and you found one, nobody really cares. We're not here to ensure your illegal drug procurement goes smoothly and leaves you with a warm, fuzzy feeling inside. What is it do you think 'the powers that be' do here? This is an informational forum.

I call bullshit on this post. I don't believe you own a large forum like you say. Anyone who did would not even have to ask such questions. If you do own a board that size and still can't figure out some of this stuff, then I'll just stop there.

 

[tomuchgear]

damn ouch that hurts.

 

[OuchThatHurts]

damn ouch that hurts.

Oh no!!!!! Was that abusive-sounding? I tried to be diplomatic. If that came off as abrasive, that was not my intention. I was just trying to explain matters.

Okay, I re-read that post and yes, I suppose I was abrasive. But then again, in my defense, do you know how many times the mods have answered these exact questions? I suppose there is some frustration on my part coming through so for that I do apologize.

 

[WildBB]

Oh no!!!!! Was that abusive-sounding? I tried to be diplomatic. If that came off as abrasive, that was not my intention. I was just trying to explain matters.

Okay, I re-read that post and yes, I suppose I was abrasive. But then again, in my defense, do you know how many times the mods have answered these exact questions? I suppose there is some frustration on my part coming through so for that I do apologize.

I think you did a damn good job at saying things how they are; that is one thing I really like about your posts

 

[tomuchgear]

lol i come off as abrasive alot. i considerd your post to be more stern than any thing. i am sure you mods do get sick of answering the same questions, or handing out infractions for the same stuff. i tip my hat to you guys. your posts abrasive, stern, informative are always straight forward, and honest no reason to be sorry for that.

 

[ricorico]

if i break a rule by accident....gimme a sec chance, lol. Im just nervous as i initially saw nothing wrong with a post asking whats your fav brand.

Im full of knowlege, and love taking in knew ideas too. On my 'home-board", im one of the more active users, so if i accidentally step over a line (which i promise to do my best not to), please dont treat me as a 10 post newbie. My post count on other boards is in the thousdands,. THanks for the clarification and patience with my dumb questions....once again, excited to be here

 

[Dad]

ric,

If you're unsure, you can always PM one of us and say, "Can I ask this about..."

Much rather that than pull posts, etc.

Or, of course, you can cop attitude, argue with the mods, spilt hairs, and get put on the radar, LOL!

 

[ricorico]

ric,

If you're unsure, you can always PM one of us and say, "Can I ask this about..."

Much rather that than pull posts, etc.

Or, of course, you can cop attitude, argue with the mods, spilt hairs, and get put on the radar, LOL!

werd, will do......thing that scares me, is the fact that i would have initially (until u guys explained why) saw nothing wrong with the fav brand post....and ive put up polls on other boards yrs ago asking that. Had i done that here,....BOOM, im banned....ill tip toe around a bit until i understand the etiquitte a lil more

 

[Dad]

werd, will do......thing that scares me, is the fact that i would have initially (until u guys explained why) saw nothing wrong with the fav brand post....and ive put up polls on other boards yrs ago asking that. Had i done that here,....BOOM, im banned....ill tip toe around a bit until i understand the etiquitte a lil more

Credit where credit is due - it's refreshing change for us to have someone who is actually concerned about this - thanks!

 

[OuchThatHurts]

In a user's defense, do you ever wonder WHY the question get's asked so much by so many?

No. I've never asked that question because the answer is obvious enough. Most people that come to this board are intelligent and friendly people who want to contribute and join in the board and they never seem to have any problems. Then there's people like yourself with 10 posts who come to the board "looking for a source" and start posting dumb shit without reading the rules or even simply taking some time to get to know the board. But hopefully after enough warnings, deletions, temporary bannings, etc. you get the idea and then start giving something back to the community besides your poor experience with using steroids.

Again, this is much of the reason why we now just ban people like yourself straight away because we just don't have time to waste on bannings, warnings, deletions, pissing contests, and so forth. Besides I like to learn and talk with my friends here too, just like all members, and the problems you cause prevent me from doing that.

I am glad you are here though, however, because I believe it allows members to see where the logic is and is not.