I tried the qv/bd line a few months ago. My guy was getting
good prices. Ran qv test e at 750 and bd tren e at 600/ week. BioTech ace
upfront/simultaneous for 3 weeks. I don't come off, I just switched into this
combo. A few weeks in started feeling week and tired. Felt like I was getting fatter and smaller by the day. Gave it another week with same results and decided to switch back to old gear. Felt better in a couple days. Regained size and vascularity. Been gaining ever since. Feel good. Running test e and tren e now. I threw what I had left in the trash. I won't buy it again. It looked good, holograms and nice labeling. Looked gtg from the outside. My guy who was getting it was using it as well along with their yellow tops. He's lost size and doesn't feel well. He's dropping it too. I've read other threads where people have liked their stuff. I used qv back in 02 03. Good gains. Things are diff now as u prolly know. Sorry for long reply.