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[rufussdad]

anyone heard anything about dea getting universal pass code?

 

[gtj220]

OMG!!! Ron Paul please help us, I hope it's just another stupid rumor.

 

[hwood]

YES!!! Assuming NSA shares info with DEA or DEA has same technology. If you are going to use safe-mail or ANY other service - you have to use encryption. If you can't figure it out - pay someone to do it for you. See article below:

The NSA owns popular firewalls and 'secure' email services
All your secrets are belong to them By Egan Orion: Friday, 21 December 2007, 9:19 AM


CRYPTOME reports that the US National Security Agency (NSA) has remote administrative access to several of the most popular Windows PC firewalls, and that it has also taken control of a number of supposedly "secure " email services within the past few months.

It writes that the personal computer firewall software products from MacAfee, Symantec and Zone Alarm all "...facilitate Microsoft's NSA-controlled remote admin access via IP/TCP ports 1024 through 1030... without security flag."

That bit of news is merely an aside to the posting's main topic, which is that:

"Certain privacy [and/or] full session SSL email hosting services have been purchased [or] changed operational control by NSA and affiliates within the past few months, through private intermediary entities."

The so-called "secure" email services implicated by Cryptome's report include Hushmail, Safe-mail.net, and Guardster.com.

Just a reminder that, if you're not using strong encryption, the NSA is probably reading your email, if not also everything that's on your system's hard drive.

 

[Swifto]

Get a safe secure email hosting program that isnt located in the USA. There owned (server location) isnt anywhere near the USA. I couldnt give a fuck, I live in the UK, but hey.

 

[Fears]

Bros,

The NSA couldn't care less about people using gear. Relax.

Next time you see a bust for gear based on information from NSA let me know.

I worked in Military Intelligence in the Army some years ago and worked to some degree with NSA. They have bigger fish to fry, trust me.

The next time terrorists are planning to kill Americans you just might want NSA to know by reading their emails.

DEA, thats another matter but in everything I've seen or read they get supenas to people's email accounts. That is the facts as far as I know with Operation Raw Deal and others.

 

[mature muscle]

are thier any e-mail host that are safe.

 

[Ryce]

No email is safe. not even PGP. I read newer PGP programs have built in back doors on them. Suffice to say no matter if they want you they will get you. If your gonna be a source you have to do it behind the scenes and not out in the open with your email posted every where like it used to be.

 

[TheGodfather]

Bros,

The NSA couldn't care less about people using gear. Relax.

Next time you see a bust for gear based on information from NSA let me know.

I worked in Military Intelligence in the Army some years ago and worked to some degree with NSA. They have bigger fish to fry, trust me.

The next time terrorists are planning to kill Americans you just might want NSA to know by reading their emails.

DEA, thats another matter but in everything I've seen or read they get supenas to people's email accounts. That is the facts as far as I know with Operation Raw Deal and others.

Yes in bold...350,000,000 citizens are supposed to sacrafice their liberty for this "alledged" safety from maybe a handful of people in the entire world who would try to carry out such attacks. The scare tactics you just posted is the justification the current administration is using to attack and virtually destroy all of our civil liberties. He who sacrafices liberty for safety gets neither.

 

[angel]

Yeah, where do you work Mr. FEARS?

ANGEL

 

[K1]

anyone heard anything about dea getting universal pass code?

I heard this on another site recently...Not sure if it's true, wouldn't doubt it if it was?!!

 

[Fears]

Yeah, where do you work Mr. FEARS?

ANGEL

 

[Fears]

Let me add a little more to this thread and keep it civil and avoid politics.

1) I believe NSA has the ability to unencrypt and read any email from anywhere. I don't know this for a fact but it is highly likely. Therefore no email provider is safe from this. This is not a new revelation. This is not a Bush mandate. This is what they do.

2) Although possible I don't think they would share this with DEA. The reasons are that first of all this is extremely sensitive capability. There is probably only a small group in NSA that has this knowledge with the proper security clearance and "need to know". They would be extremely hesitant to share this with anyone for fear it would fall into the wrong hands and possibly compromise our own military and govt. which uses some of it.

3) Typically from what I have seen DEA gets supoenas for peoples mailboxes if they have reasonable cause such as making buys from them. US companies would be bound to comply with this court order but overseas would not unless there is some type of agreement with that govt. We have seen that hushmail, although overseas has complied so I would completely avoid them.

4) My advice would be to use an overseas email service that has shown it will not comply with supoenas/requests for email info. I am not sure if there are any that fit this mold but would like to know myself. Perhaps some others can help answer that.

5) I do not know any of this above to be a "fact". It is my educated guess based on a small amount of info over the years. If others have evidence to show otherwise I welcome it. My advice when it comes to gear is not to worry about NSA, they really don't care about you, but do indeed worry about DEA, especially if you are a source. Analyze every bust to see how they did it, how they got their info, and learn to avoid those pitfalls or mistakes which have gotten others busted. Stay safe.

 

[mature muscle]

Let me add a little more to this thread and keep it civil and avoid politics.

1) I believe NSA has the ability to unencrypt and read any email from anywhere. I don't know this for a fact but it is highly likely. Therefore no email provider is safe from this. This is not a new revelation. This is not a Bush mandate. This is what they do.

2) Although possible I don't think they would share this with DEA. The reasons are that first of all this is extremely sensitive capability. There is probably only a small group in NSA that has this knowledge with the proper security clearance and "need to know". They would be extremely hesitant to share this with anyone for fear it would fall into the wrong hands and possibly compromise our own military and govt. which uses some of it.

3) Typically from what I have seen DEA gets supoenas for peoples mailboxes if they have reasonable cause such as making buys from them. US companies would be bound to comply with this court order but overseas would not unless there is some type of agreement with that govt. We have seen that hushmail, although overseas has complied so I would completely avoid them.

4) My advice would be to use an overseas email service that has shown it will not comply with supoenas/requests for email info. I am not sure if there are any that fit this mold but would like to know myself. Perhaps some others can help answer that.

5) I do not know any of this above to be a "fact". It is my educated guess based on a small amount of info over the years. If others have evidence to show otherwise I welcome it. My advice when it comes to gear is not to worry about NSA, they really don't care about you, but do indeed worry about DEA, especially if you are a source. Analyze every bust to see how they did it, how they got their info, and learn to avoid those pitfalls or mistakes which have gotten others busted. Stay safe.

i thought safe-mail was based in Israel

 

[GoneForever]

Each account had to be subpoena'd in court to be looked into, so if your source is ok with it, just keep on opening new accounts each time you order. Will be far too difficult for LE to get involved. Now for a source this will be hard. His best bet is to create a new account for each customer. Anonymousspeech is based in japan and will never work with the us dea. Best bet imo.

 

[Baseline]

Fourth, I believe we talked about this subject at EST. Even Anonymous-speech will comply eventually, let me tell you why. Do some research on the MLAT TREATY (Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty). Japan Signed the treaty August 5, 2003 (Not in Force). Although the treaty is not in force, the US are some sneaky bastards and will come up with something. Encrypted email services along with self-encryption looks like the only way to go for right now.


-Baseline