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Severe Libido/ED issues

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MODS: originally posted in the HRT section but this is an urgent matter and I think I’ll get more replies here. Please delete other thread.


Hey guys don't post much here but long time lurker. I’m having severe libido and ED issues. Sex is now a chore and it’s been one for awhile and even when I have sex it’s almost as if I feel “nothing” if that makes sense like no sensation. As well as major ED problem even if I pop a couple UGL Cialis still not great.

It’s been like this for a long time but def getting to the point where it’s not normal. I cycled last year so tren and test but normally I’m just on self administered TRT.

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Age:28
height 5”11
Weight 210
Current protocol: 150mg of UGL test 1x week(1 notch down from half so slightly less) 1mg finasteride ED for hair loss. Basic health suppe like a multi 5000iu Vit D daily. Cardio 4x a week with weights
Problems: Zero sex drive, Major ED, Gyno under left breast tissue.

Recent blood work everything in range
Testosterone total: 1011 ng/dl
Prolactin: 6.8 ng/ml
Estrodial:15 pg/ml

Prior to this about 7 weeks back I was on a different UGL test at around 125mg a week with the same issues but with major gyno behind my left breast tissue. I got fed up and took a week off of test and crushed my estro with letro. Everything got worse but my gyno was gone. I tapered off letro and got on a more reliable UGL brand of test.

8 weeks later I’m basically back in the same spot

idk how I’m getting gyno on this low dose of test esp since I’m at the high range of normal and idk how I have all these SEVERE issues when everything looks in check

Does any one have solutions? I don’t wanna use an AI bc my Estrodial is alrdy on the lower end but I need to get rid of the gyno.


I asked a knowledgeable coach in the industry what to do and he recommended that my estro is to low and maybe it needs to be elevated into the 20-40 range for me to feel better.

So I’m thinking lower my test dose even more to say 100mg per week and take Nolvadex 20mg everyday to combat gyno.

Is this a good plan? Any one have recommendations or know why this is happening?

Thanks
 

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I am sure others will give you advice. This is what I would do:
1. How long ago was last cycle?
2. Yes your e2 is a bit low. Not sure why as your TT is 1k+. Don’t use an AI whatever you do.
3. Gyno can be e2 and/or prolactin issues. Prolactin isn’t super high but, do a test with 100mg p5p every night and see if this helps with libido and lowering PL a bit.
4. My really issue is with Finasteride. I took it years ago and it fucked my up giving me PFS. Some it works well for and others it makes their neurological and nervous system go haywire and willy go limp and numb. I would say go off that, and like I said these are my thoughts. Some live by finasteride, I don’t.
5. I would redo bloods again just as a precaution to see if they are the same or not. They are cheap, why not.
6. Always consult physician first and use advice here second.

Quick fix, which is only just that:
10mg cola is ED
50mg Proviron ED

This should help but wont fix.
 

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Thank you for the reply

1. last cycle was Jan of 2020, then I believe I did some EQ in the summer. Was feeling better then then I do now but still problems. B4 that can’t remember.

2.Yup no AI but thinking nolvadex to help with the gyno.

3. I can def try the 100mg p5p ED. Don’t see any cons to trying. I’ll pick it up today.

4. PFS? Post finasteride syndrome? Idk man this SUCKS but idk if I’m ready to lose my hair. At least not yet.

5. I’m all for redoing bloods gotta make sure my Health insurance will cover it again. I’m on medicare lost my job unfortunately.

6. agreed on consulting a physician but in my area seems all these Drs have no clue about hormones or their knowledge is outdated. Maybe I can try going to a specialist like an Endo? Maybe they can help better but my insurance sucks. They might not take it or only shitty Drs might and I can’t afford out of pocket ATM

10mg cola is ED- What’s cola?
50mg Proviron ED- hard on the hair but I can try grabbing some for a short term fix
 

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Cialis

I am no pro or guru. Just thoughts....and if you’re not ready to lose hair than don’t use AS 😉 Happens to some not others but it’s a risk. Don’t like the risk, don’t use.
 

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Pretty sure finasteride is your issue. I have awesome sex drive with low estrogen. I have more ed issues off an ai.

The reason proviron increases sex drive...dht. Dht is important for hard ons and you're blocking it with finasteride. If you keep your test levels reasonable, you shouldn't have to worry high dht unless you crush you e with an ai. Block estrogen conversion and you body will have no choice but to convert excess test to dht.
 

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Something makes me uneasy at taking cialis daily at 28. And yes I agree but my cycle days are pretty much done bc I want this problem to be fixed. But if I stop the fin now and I ever touch AAS the rest of my life besides TRT I’ll lose a lot of hair and I’ll have to shave it. Been on fin for 3 years now I believe
 

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Pretty sure finasteride is your issue. I have awesome sex drive with low estrogen. I have more ed issues off an ai.

The reason proviron increases sex drive...dht. Dht is important for hard ons and you're blocking it with finasteride. If you keep your test levels reasonable, you shouldn't have to worry high dht unless you crush you e with an ai. Block estrogen conversion and you body will have no choice but to convert excess test to dht.
You’re saying you believe the only fix is getting off Fin?
 

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Check progesterone level. Your estrogen is low enough it shouldn’t cause a problem but coupled with low progesterone then even low estrogen can cause gyno. I was getting gyno symptoms from estrogen level of 5. Added topical progesterone at 10mg a night and almost overnight gyno sensitivity went away. Erections quality also improved.
 

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MODS: originally posted in the HRT section but this is an urgent matter and I think I’ll get more replies here. Please delete other thread.


Hey guys don't post much here but long time lurker. I’m having severe libido and ED issues. Sex is now a chore and it’s been one for awhile and even when I have sex it’s almost as if I feel “nothing” if that makes sense like no sensation. As well as major ED problem even if I pop a couple UGL Cialis still not great.

It’s been like this for a long time but def getting to the point where it’s not normal. I cycled last year so tren and test but normally I’m just on self administered TRT.

Info

Age:28
height 5”11
Weight 210
Current protocol: 150mg of UGL test 1x week(1 notch down from half so slightly less) 1mg finasteride ED for hair loss. Basic health suppe like a multi 5000iu Vit D daily. Cardio 4x a week with weights
Problems: Zero sex drive, Major ED, Gyno under left breast tissue.

Recent blood work everything in range
Testosterone total: 1011 ng/dl
Prolactin: 6.8 ng/ml
Estrodial:15 pg/ml

Prior to this about 7 weeks back I was on a different UGL test at around 125mg a week with the same issues but with major gyno behind my left breast tissue. I got fed up and took a week off of test and crushed my estro with letro. Everything got worse but my gyno was gone. I tapered off letro and got on a more reliable UGL brand of test.

8 weeks later I’m basically back in the same spot

idk how I’m getting gyno on this low dose of test esp since I’m at the high range of normal and idk how I have all these SEVERE issues when everything looks in check

Does any one have solutions? I don’t wanna use an AI bc my Estrodial is alrdy on the lower end but I need to get rid of the gyno.


I asked a knowledgeable coach in the industry what to do and he recommended that my estro is to low and maybe it needs to be elevated into the 20-40 range for me to feel better.

So I’m thinking lower my test dose even more to say 100mg per week and take Nolvadex 20mg everyday to combat gyno.

Is this a good plan? Any one have recommendations or know why this is happening?

Thanks
My advice to you is the following:
1) stay away from ALL anti-estrogens and take cabergoline twice a week to lower prolactin.
2) take 25 mgs of Proviron each morning with breakfast to increase DHT. You might be able back it down to 12.5 mgs daily over time like I have and get the job done.
3) use 200 mgs of test per week for TRT, not 100.
4) take 5 mgs of cialis daily with breakfast along with the proviron.
5) STOP using finastride! It’s a libido killer!!!

NOTE: Once a person has used Tren along with test, they may have to do the above to enjoy sex again!
 

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stenbolone transdermal is great for gyno. You rub the DHT cream right on your nipples.

sounds like your problem is finasteride.

If you can’t accept the fact you’ll lose hair with AAS then stop now while your young. You hair falls out easier as you get older.
 

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yep finasteride bro.... i was 1mg

ed for years...ruined my hards ons

either get off it or cut to .mg eod

shit fucksurboners even afterstopping
 

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I’ve head it’s a pretty common side effect of finastride as well.
Might as well give it a shot if you’re willing.
That’s something I have to think about long term.
Also, cut finasteride back to .5 ED....stay at that for a week or two.
I’ve read a study along the lines of fin kills Dht by like 60% and cutting the fin dose in half only decreases the rate down to like 5%
Check progesterone level. Your estrogen is low enough it shouldn’t cause a problem but coupled with low progesterone then even low estrogen can cause gyno. I was getting gyno symptoms from estrogen level of 5. Added topical progesterone at 10mg a night and almost overnight gyno sensitivity went away. Erections quality also improved.
Interesting
My advice to you is the following:
1) stay away from ALL anti-estrogens and take cabergoline twice a week to lower prolactin.
2) take 25 mgs of Proviron each morning with breakfast to increase DHT. You might be able back it down to 12.5 mgs daily over time like I have and get the job done.
3) use 200 mgs of test per week for TRT, not 100.
4) take 5 mgs of cialis daily with breakfast along with the proviron.
5) STOP using finastride! It’s a libido killer!!!

NOTE: Once a person has used Tren along with test, they may have to do the above to enjoy sex again!
thanks for the advice

any reason to increase test to 200mg instead of reducing to 100mg?

my total test at 1000+ alrdy


stenbolone transdermal is great for gyno. You rub the DHT cream right on your nipples.

sounds like your problem is finasteride.

If you can’t accept the fact you’ll lose hair with AAS then stop now while your young. You hair falls out easier as you get older.
yea I think I’m done with cycles bc I can’t deal with being like this anymore BUT I’ll still have to be on TRT for life
 

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yep finasteride bro.... i was 1mg

ed for years...ruined my hards ons

either get off it or cut to .mg eod

shit fucksurboners even afterstopping
This is devistating to hear. Did you keep you’re hair? My hair is pretty good right now no major balding BUT I believe if I stop fin it will be gone
 

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There’s also guys who take half a mg of finasteride eod.
 

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This is devistating to hear. Did you keep you’re hair? My hair is pretty good right now no major balding BUT I believe if I stop fin it will be gone

Listen to what I just said to you.
 

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This is devistating to hear. Did you keep you’re hair? My hair is pretty good right now no major balding BUT I believe if I stop fin it will be gone

its amazing for hair...thickened it never lost any grew back wot i lost before i started... but the damage to cock....

i have only been off it for 2 months. after being on for 15 years

if i were to do it all again .5mg eod.... still not sure its worth it. tough one
 

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That’s something I have to think about long term.

I’ve read a study along the lines of fin kills Dht by like 60% and cutting the fin dose in half only decreases the rate down to like 5%

Interesting

thanks for the advice

any reason to increase test to 200mg instead of reducing to 100mg?

my total test at 1000+ alrdy



yea I think I’m done with cycles bc I can’t deal with being like this anymore BUT I’ll still have to be on TRT for life
If you’re at 1000 using only 100 mgs then you can stick with using 100 mgs of test per week. I need 200 mgs of pharm grade test to hit 1200.
 

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There’s also guys who take half a mg of finasteride eod.
I can try this
its amazing for hair...thickened it never lost any grew back wot i lost before i started... but the damage to cock....

i have only been off it for 2 months. after being on for 15 years

if i were to do it all again .5mg eod.... still not sure its worth it. tough one
gonna try .5mg eod see if that helps
If you’re at 1000 using only 100 mgs then you can stick with using 100 mgs of test per week. I need 200 mgs of pharm grade test to hit 1200.
I’m using 150mg 1x a week of UGL put me at 1000 total test
 

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