Shortness of breath and Test Prop.

[MrSleepy]

Hi there,
I have been using testosterone propionate 100mg/1ml for 8 weeks now and have been achieving awesome results. I have gained 6.5kgs (14.3 pounds) in this time and lost 2cm of my waistline. I have suffered a few of the side affects from using it and most i have been able to bare. side affects like Test Flu/fever at the 2 week point, an absurd amount of acne, sore/corked injection sites for the first 4 weeks and an increased sexual drive which is awesome cause i have always suffered from erectile disfunction but no more.

but... I have noticed one side affect which has me a little worried. since week 3 i started suffering from shortness of breath which I thought was asthma. I didn't think it was related to the steroid use because there has been a season change here in australia and i normally get a bit of asthma during this time. I also didn't think it was related to the steroid use because I have previously done a cycle of dbol and it completely eliminated my asthma.

What got me thinking that my shortness of breath was related to my use of test prop was that I injected the other day and had a nap (not the best thing to do after an injection i know) and I woke up and had severe shortness of breath. It didnt feel like asthma to me as i wasn't weazing although after using my ventolin puffer i felt much better. I have noticed that my shortness of breath tends to be a little worse after i wake up generally. I cant do much cardio but i have no problems with my weight training.

For the first 6 weeks i was injecting 8ml per week (2ml every second day) and now im on 10ml per week. So thats 1000mg per week. Im currently 89.8kgs (198 pound) and 180cm tall (5.9ft). Im also using Minomycin to control my acne and im using a symbicort asthma preventer and a ventolin asthma reliever.

My questions are:
Is shortness of breath a known side affect of testosterone propionate? (i have searched but found nothing)

If it is a known side affect, why does it happen?

Is there a way to relieve this problem?

I know this sounds nuts, but would adding some dbol's to my cycle correct the problem?

why does Dbols have the complete opposite affect? less estrogen maybe?

I want to swap to test enanthate for my next cycle, will this have the same affect? if does have the same affect i might stick to the prop as i can get it out of my system much quicker in an emergency.

Is there any decent injectables that wont cause this problem?



Its hard to get doctors advice in australia because steriod use is extreemly restricted in australia. I have seen one doctor and he just said to stop injecting but he was very very anti steroid and he refused to confirm if its actually a side affect from my usage. As it is im going to source my proviron to end my cycle through a mate as i cant find a doctor that will perscrible it. Australia sucks..

Im willing to bare the shortness of breath as i have bared all the other side effects (im just unlucky) but im just a little worried that it might get worse than shortness of breath.. I can manage it to a degree with the asthma medication..


thanks

MrSleepy

 

[tenny]

let me ask you this.........

is it shortness, or.....unable to achieve a FULL breath
almost like a yawning sensation that is almost never satisfied????

there is a difference

 

[MrSleepy]

i can take a full deep breath with a bit of effort but it is very tight..

when breathing at a resting situation its very tight and i have trouble taking a normal breath without having to use extra energy..

I cant get enough air to do cardio..

i hope this helps... breathing is hard to explain lol.

 

[tenny]

do you have a nasal drip?????

constantly clearing throat????

feel a bigg ball of snot in the back of your throat????

 

[MrSleepy]

nope, none of those problems.. feel healthy other than shortness of breath..

 

[tenny]

is it worse when eating????

or....do you catch yourself THINKING about it
which in turn INDUCES this breathing????

and

have you have your blood pressure checked??

 

[BiggJuicy]

is it worse when eating????

or....do you catch yourself THINKING about it
which in turn INDUCES this breathing????

and

have you have your blood pressure checked??

I think what you are refering to is the anxiety induced sides. I get it when I run tren. The more I think about it the worse it gets. I bought a blood pressure monitor and started meditating and monitoring and I found that all the sides where from anxiety. I only get night sweats now.

 

[MrSleepy]

i haven't noticed problems while eating and i dont think its an anything to do with anxiety problems.. like it doesnt get worse just because i think about it..

 

[kscowboy]

Have you recently started taking any other otc supplements?

 

[BiggJuicy]

Have you recently started taking any other otc supplements?

Good question

 

[MrSleepy]

nope, supplements and diet hasn't changed..

the only supplement im using currently is protein powder and ive been using the same brand for ages...

 

[BiggJuicy]

Sometimes if you have made big jumps in your poundages it can cause tears in the cartilage between the ribs. This can cause minor inflamation and put pressure on your diaphram(spelling?) This will make it seem as though you have to pull harder than usual to take a deeper breath. Also, if your weight has gone up faster than usual this can put pressure on your internal organs, making it more difficult to breath in. Also, if you retain a lot of water it puts pressure on your internal organs making it more difficult to breath and it can raise your blood pressure which can cause dyspnea, or shortness of breath. But you will probably answer to these just like you answered to the other responses so the only thing for you to do in my opinion is 1: buy a blood pressure monitor with an irregular heartbeat detector and play doctor. They come with fully illustrated instructions and run from 50-80 dollars on average. 2: go to the doctor. 3: wait it out and see if it gets better.

 

[MrSleepy]

i have put on a bit of muscle around the chest area pretty quickly so it is a possibility. I will get myself a blood pressure tester as i can get decent prices on them (i sometimes do undercover security at a chemist). the last doctor i went to (the anit roid doc, 4 days ago) said my blood pressure was fine but silly me forgot to ask what it was.



thanks heaps for the help guys... i was kinda hoping it might be a common symptom/problem but it doesnt sound like it..

 

[BiggJuicy]

i have put on a bit of muscle around the chest area pretty quickly so it is a possibility. I will get myself a blood pressure tester as i can get decent prices on them (i sometimes do undercover security at a chemist). the last doctor i went to (the anit roid doc, 4 days ago) said my blood pressure was fine but silly me forgot to ask what it was.



thanks heaps for the help guys... i was kinda hoping it might be a common symptom/problem but it doesnt sound like it..

If the doc says it was fine then it is fine. Your blood pressure fluctuates all day long during everything you do so it will never be the same. Even in a 10 minute operiod. If the pressure is not associated with a tightness in the left side of your chest or it doesn't hurt when you breath then I would rule out the more serious conditions. You could even have what is called congenital dyspnea. It means that you were born with it and it just came about one day and hasn't gone away. You won't die from it. It just means that you will be sometimes short of breath. Nothing serious.
Take a minute to focus on your inhale. Does it hurt at any specific point in your chest or back that you could isolate and point out?

 

[kscowboy]

you can go to walmart or just about any pharmacy and they have one of those bp machines that you sit beside and put your arm in the sleave and it automatically checks it. They are not 100% accurate but they are close. KS

 

[kscowboy]

Or call your doctors office that just took your bp and ask them what it was. They should have wrote it on your chart. If not they should re check it for free. KS

 

[tenny]

you more than likely have a legit asthmatic condition

that prop doesnt nessasarily cause, but maybe aggervating something else
to cause it

i would go get checked, to attain the severity of the condition

let us know how it goes

 

[bhumik]

you more than likely have a legit asthmatic condition

that prop doesnt nessasarily cause, but maybe aggervating something else
to cause it

i would go get checked, to attain the severity of the condition

let us know how it goes

hey tenny

I pmed you some info. I have pretty much the exact problem you described "it almost feels like an incomplete yawn" and when i tell doctors taht they think I am crazy. If you know the solution or have similar problem get back to me man.
thanks