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Should I take blood pressure pills?

Very good advice and I know exactly how that goes and that’s me to a tee stressing lol
 
There are tons of a. Herbal options to lower bp. b. Many here use low dose cialis for bp plus prostrate support.
I have been on angiotensin 2 blocker altace for twenty years. No sides at all.
It took me many doctors to get there. They had me on norvasc then prinivil then a beta blocker and even a diuretic. Most had terrible sides. I wouldn't take a beta blocker again if you gave me a millions bucks. Doc said it slows everything down. Yes it did turned me into a zombie. Doing cardio was like pushing a train up hill and couldn't get HR up.
You will find the choice of bp meds depends on the a. Doctor b. Whatever the pharm reps are pushing to determine your treatment.
Many here self medicate based on having high bp . As others mentioned, get a cuff and logbook 2 to 3 times a day. A lot more accurate than going in the doc stressed from traffic and white coat fever sitting in an office for an hour stewing over appointment time.
Plus I have found 90% of nurses or whatever can't take blood pressure worth a damn.
Latest event the nurse put the small cuff on which bust open then used the large cuff and put it over my sweatshirt and got 100 over 70.
I asked the doc to take it again with my bare arm and it was 120 over 80.
Very good advice and I know exactly how that goes and that’s me to a tee stressing lol
 
Very good advice and I know exactly how that goes and that’s me to a tee stressing lol
What steroid gh insulin doses are you taking if any? I can see taking bp meds when herbs don't work anymore. If you are engaged in eating training hydrating and juicing like a bodybuilder.
I got most of my size by over eating fairly clean foods and at 240 and eating like 270 then at 270 eating like 300 and so on.
I won't go into my history with docs but if you are sent to one your going to probably walk out with 3 to 4 scripts for shit you don't need.
I got on bp meds when I was averaging 140 over 100. Altace also reduces protein in the urine.
Dante recommended this I think he still takes it. I actually took it back in 2019 and it kept my bp at 100/70. Made me feel a bit loopy at times probably due to the 20 point drop when using altace.
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I think managing glucose and BP are 2 of the best things a person can do for health or a longer life.
I would not take a BP med as a preventative drug. I look to activities, lifestyle and diet first.
But Telmisartan is one i would look into if needed. Seems it helps with glucose some as well as dealing with BP.
The studies i have seen show Cialis, beetroot can help with BP. But usually only lowers things by something like 3 points for most. I have been taking carditone on and off for a few years but like the other more natural thing i mentioned my pressure only changes 2-3 points a most when i stop taking any one of those over an extended time.
I find managing stress through breathing/meditation more beneficial in general.
 
What steroid gh insulin doses are you taking if any? I can see taking bp meds when herbs don't work anymore. If you are engaged in eating training hydrating and juicing like a bodybuilder.
I got most of my size by over eating fairly clean foods and at 240 and eating like 270 then at 270 eating like 300 and so on.
I won't go into my history with docs but if you are sent to one your going to probably walk out with 3 to 4 scripts for shit you don't need.
I got on bp meds when I was averaging 140 over 100. Altace also reduces protein in the urine.
Dante recommended this I think he still takes it. I actually took it back in 2019 and it kept my bp at 100/70. Made me feel a bit loopy at times probably due to the 20 point drop when using altace.
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Exactly how I feel, plus it’s western medicine which never gets to the real point just masks your symptoms and pushes it somewhere else and causing more issues and a waste of money. Thank you very much for the info I’ll buy and try the supplement before any pharma meds from a doc. Thanks bro
 
I think managing glucose and BP are 2 of the best things a person can do for health or a longer life.
I would not take a BP med as a preventative drug. I look to activities, lifestyle and diet first.
But Telmisartan is one i would look into if needed. Seems it helps with glucose some as well as dealing with BP.
The studies i have seen show Cialis, beetroot can help with BP. But usually only lowers things by something like 3 points for most. I have been taking carditone on and off for a few years but like the other more natural thing i mentioned my pressure only changes 2-3 points a most when i stop taking any one of those over an extended time.
I find managing stress through breathing/meditation more beneficial in general.
Do you have any good reputable beat root sources ?
 
I was watching Michael israetel talking about how anyone using steroids should take blood pressure pills, I’ve never done this and just watch my labs and was Wondering if anyone does this anyway to prevent issues later on in life as he says. I take, B12 injections, tuddca, glutathione, micellar curcumin, celery extract, multi vitamin, and vitamin C powder and that’s about it besides Pantoprazole for heartburn
Absolutely not! Don’t take drugs you don’t need to take.
 
Do you have any good reputable beat root sources ?
I get mine from Amazon. And over the years they have all smelt, looked and tasted the same. Not much of a black market for counterfeiting beetroot powder that i have seen.
 

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I think managing glucose and BP are 2 of the best things a person can do for health or a longer life.
I would not take a BP med as a preventative drug. I look to activities, lifestyle and diet first.
But Telmisartan is one i would look into if needed. Seems it helps with glucose some as well as dealing with BP.
The studies i have seen show Cialis, beetroot can help with BP. But usually only lowers things by something like 3 points for most. I have been taking carditone on and off for a few years but like the other more natural thing i mentioned my pressure only changes 2-3 points a most when i stop taking any one of those over an extended time.
I find managing stress through breathing/meditation more beneficial in general.


Cialis, 40mg daily was / is the recommended dosage for bp at least when it was originally investigated for that then when patients were getting erections they thought, . . . hey maybe we are onto something here ($). Quickly abandoned for bp now used / prescribed exclusively for ed.

That is my understanding.

I think the 20mg for ed was a conservative dose as priapism was a concern. I have tried 60mg with no ill effects in fact zero effect, a sample size of 1, me.
 
I’ve also seen troponin T levels rise which is kind of alarming sometimes but could be due to many things.
You’ve had elevated troponin levels? Seems like something you’d want to find the root cause of.
 
Cialis, 40mg daily was / is the recommended dosage for bp at least when it was originally investigated for that then when patients were getting erections they thought, . . . hey maybe we are onto something here ($). Quickly abandoned for bp now used / prescribed exclusively for ed.

That is my understanding.

I think the 20mg for ed was a conservative dose as priapism was a concern. I have tried 60mg with no ill effects in fact zero effect, a sample size of 1, me.
Yea it didn't pan out for what is was meant for so why waste the money spent on research and repurpose it.
This study along with other i have read show lower to mid range single digit reductions with the 20mg dose. I would guess the 5mg would be less.
Depending on how much nitric oxide a person makes they could have better or worse results.
As for priapism i am thinking id would need a pretty big IV drip before i needed to worry about that!
 
You’ve had elevated troponin levels? Seems like something you’d want to find the root cause of.
Yes, I have to take a series of tests to find out what exactly caused it. She said some medication could cause higher levels but won’t know anything until they see if it’s something to worry about or not and where its coming from
 
I was watching Michael israetel talking about how anyone using steroids should take blood pressure pills, I’ve never done this and just watch my labs and was Wondering if anyone does this anyway to prevent issues later on in life as he says. I take, B12 injections, tuddca, glutathione, micellar curcumin, celery extract, multi vitamin, and vitamin C powder and that’s about it besides Pantoprazole for heartburn

Grab a blood pressure cuff, if you are 135+/90+ maybe consider blood pressure supplements. 150+/100+ yes actual meds are needed.
 
Yes, I have to take a series of tests to find out what exactly caused it. She said some medication could cause higher levels but won’t know anything until they see if it’s something to worry about or not and where its coming from
Chemo drugs or cocaine potentially. But in most cases it’s from heart damage. Which is technically still the reason from those medications.
 
Cialis, 40mg daily was / is the recommended dosage for bp at least when it was originally investigated for that then when patients were getting erections they thought, . . . hey maybe we are onto something here ($). Quickly abandoned for bp now used / prescribed exclusively for ed.

That is my understanding.

I think the 20mg for ed was a conservative dose as priapism was a concern. I have tried 60mg with no ill effects in fact zero effect, a sample size of 1, me.

Cialis is great but even if I just have 20mg I usually get horrible headaches the next day. The effects of 20mg are amazing for me but not worth the headache. 20mg can also cause me to feel hot and experience facial flushing and it can be extreme to the point people ask if I am ok because I am bright red :D At 10mg I am ok and that dose suits me best. As an experiment I might try 40mg one day but I know it will be intense. I know people who have used 40mg and not felt much so the difference in response can vary massively.
 
Even 2.5mg cialis a day and my eyes are completely bloodshot red. I know there are so many benefits but I just can’t do it anymore. I’d rather have clear eyes and not have to abuse eye drops.

I only take it now when I have a new baddie that I don’t want to disappoint.
 

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