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St. John's Wart?
Bunyip
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St. John's Wart?
I'm going back on Monday and hace been told St John's Wart will helpl with the moodiness. Any advice, this is just my second cycle.
dbol 40 ed
sus 500 -750 8 wks
deca 600 wk
Thanks,
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01-19-2002 06:10 AM
forbb
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good cycle!
just add some clomid 100-200mg a day!
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01-19-2002 06:19 AM
Bunyip
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I plan on using clomid and hcg post cycle. I was just wondering about the St. John's Wart during, if anyone has used it and if it works.
Thanks,
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01-19-2002 06:22 AM
Growing Dad
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Everyones different
But I tried it and messed around with the doses, tried a bunch, tried a little, took it for about two weeks ed. did nothing at all. You really don't know till you try, everyone's different.
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01-19-2002 07:08 AM
Big A
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I like St John's Wort. It makes me feel 'good'.
I used to be a huge fan of the old NeuroGain from EAS. Especially the taste!
I might suggest it to the Syntherol people to make that... hmmm, yep, I will
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01-19-2002 10:44 AM
MikeS
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Big A, do you use the St Johns during or after a cycle? I hear alot of people use it after, not during, because it helps you with the possible depression. I dont think most guys get depressed while ON!
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01-20-2002 02:23 AM
Big A
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quote:
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Originally posted by MikeS
Big A, do you use the St Johns during or after a cycle? I hear alot of people use it after, not during, because it helps you with the possible depression. I dont think most guys get depressed while ON!
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I have a very stressful life, so I use it whenever I feel like I need it, which sometimes it's quite often
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01-20-2002 06:45 AM
Silk Kitten
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The only time that I know of NOT to use St. John's Wart is when you have a nueorological problem ie: seizures (epilepsy) or other nuerological disorders other than depression. Check with your doc first if you do. I for one can't take it; due to epilepsy.
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01-21-2002 02:40 AM
deadlift1965
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St. Johnny's
Does anyone know if St. Johns will mess with your sex drive??? I know that just about any anti-depression drug has "sexual side effects". Anyone know if SJW does also???
Deadlift
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01-21-2002 03:20 AM
Big bi's
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I defiently got severe mood swings while I was on. I would plummet into some serious depression quickly, I tried St. John's wort. Worked o.k. but still wasnt happy, talked to my doc and he gave me some wellbuterin, worked very well, no noticable sexuall sides at all, besides the usually "been on for too long" things. I really didnt like the idea of being on anti-D's though so I dont use them anymore, I felt like maybe it was a false sense of reality. If you are prone to serious mood swings though, maybe just use wellbuterin while your on, just so your tolerable. Seriously though I been off now for around 4 months and have really never felt better. I wont touch gear again for a VERY, long time, if at all again. hope it helps
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01-21-2002 07:14 AM
Bunyip
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Thank you all for the comments and advice. This board is great. Glad I found it.
Eat more, train harder!
Bunyip
Junior Member
Registered: Jan 2002
Location: San Diego
Posts: 17
St. John's Wart?
I'm going back on Monday and hace been told St John's Wart will helpl with the moodiness. Any advice, this is just my second cycle.
dbol 40 ed
sus 500 -750 8 wks
deca 600 wk
Thanks,
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01-19-2002 06:10 AM
forbb
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good cycle!
just add some clomid 100-200mg a day!
forbb
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01-19-2002 06:19 AM
Bunyip
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: San Diego
Posts: 17
I plan on using clomid and hcg post cycle. I was just wondering about the St. John's Wart during, if anyone has used it and if it works.
Thanks,
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01-19-2002 06:22 AM
Growing Dad
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Arizona
Posts: 136
Everyones different
But I tried it and messed around with the doses, tried a bunch, tried a little, took it for about two weeks ed. did nothing at all. You really don't know till you try, everyone's different.
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01-19-2002 07:08 AM
Big A
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I like St John's Wort. It makes me feel 'good'.
I used to be a huge fan of the old NeuroGain from EAS. Especially the taste!
I might suggest it to the Syntherol people to make that... hmmm, yep, I will
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01-19-2002 10:44 AM
MikeS
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Big A, do you use the St Johns during or after a cycle? I hear alot of people use it after, not during, because it helps you with the possible depression. I dont think most guys get depressed while ON!
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01-20-2002 02:23 AM
Big A
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quote:
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Originally posted by MikeS
Big A, do you use the St Johns during or after a cycle? I hear alot of people use it after, not during, because it helps you with the possible depression. I dont think most guys get depressed while ON!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I have a very stressful life, so I use it whenever I feel like I need it, which sometimes it's quite often
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01-20-2002 06:45 AM
Silk Kitten
Ms. Florida Fitness
Registered: Jan 2002
Location: in a house with 9 cats
Posts: 22
The only time that I know of NOT to use St. John's Wart is when you have a nueorological problem ie: seizures (epilepsy) or other nuerological disorders other than depression. Check with your doc first if you do. I for one can't take it; due to epilepsy.
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01-21-2002 02:40 AM
deadlift1965
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Location: Detroit, MI
Posts: 29
St. Johnny's
Does anyone know if St. Johns will mess with your sex drive??? I know that just about any anti-depression drug has "sexual side effects". Anyone know if SJW does also???
Deadlift
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01-21-2002 03:20 AM
Big bi's
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I defiently got severe mood swings while I was on. I would plummet into some serious depression quickly, I tried St. John's wort. Worked o.k. but still wasnt happy, talked to my doc and he gave me some wellbuterin, worked very well, no noticable sexuall sides at all, besides the usually "been on for too long" things. I really didnt like the idea of being on anti-D's though so I dont use them anymore, I felt like maybe it was a false sense of reality. If you are prone to serious mood swings though, maybe just use wellbuterin while your on, just so your tolerable. Seriously though I been off now for around 4 months and have really never felt better. I wont touch gear again for a VERY, long time, if at all again. hope it helps
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01-21-2002 07:14 AM
Bunyip
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: San Diego
Posts: 17
Thank you all for the comments and advice. This board is great. Glad I found it.
Eat more, train harder!