Starting Test Enan.....................

[massmaker56]

I'm about to do a cycle with 500mgs Test Enan. weeklly. Would you cycle anything else with this? Like Deca or Winstrol? Or just stick with the Test? Thanks guys your always a big help when i need it!

 

[thebrick]

first cycle?

 

[massmaker56]

Yeah first cycle. I've got my PCT all planned out. But im looking to make some really solid clean gains.

 

[NWill]

I would say you could add some D-Bol at anywhere from 20-40 mgs a day weeks 1-4 thats that im gonna do with my first cycle, but i got the feeling that you might not wantt he extra water weight from it since you said "nice, clean gains"

 

[thebrick]

EQ or deca would be good for clean gains IMO, but even 500 mgs a week testE for your first cycle should be very nice. Just give it a few weeks to start working well

 

[massmaker56]

Cool yeah a buddy of mine added dbol to his last cycle he said it helped, but man his faced swelled up like a sponge full of water. If you were to add EQ or Deca would it be throughout the whole cycle or just thr first few weeks? and at what mgs.

 

[thebrick]

My choice would be EQ 400-600 mgs a week through the whole cycle.

 

[massmaker56]

Cool thanks bro.

 

[massmaker56]

So if i did 500mgs Test a week and 600mgs EQ a week, would i inject them on the same day? Also do you inject them in the same area?

 

[thebrick]

you could mix oil base in the same pin (Test E @ 250 mg/cc with EQ @ 300 mg/cc = 2 cc total) x 2 times a week rotating injection spots

 

[massmaker56]

Would you rotate as left glute, right glute for the whole ten weeks. Or would you try the quad or shoulder etc.

 

[thebrick]

My rule is go at least a week before you hit that same spot again. both glutes should be fine. I would always massage the area well to disperse the oil

 

[massmaker56]

Cool when you inject in the glut what size needle do you normally use?

 

[thebrick]

23 gauge 1.5" ....and cleaniness is next to godliness... on everything

 

[JCAnderson]

23 1 1/2 or you can run 25 1 1/2. The reason for the 25 is so you inject slower and avoid the possibility of an infection. I m running 25's right now and it's fine. No problems.

 

[massmaker56]

Cool. i appreciate your help guys, like i said this is my first cycle

 

[JohnnyPro]

My advice would be to use test only, since this is your first cycle. You need to know how your body reacts to a compound, and if you are doing 2 or 3 different things you won't know what is doing what. I strongly suggest test only for a first cycle, so you have an idea of what 500 mgs a week will do for you. Then for your second cycle, you can add something else like eq or deca.

 

[aoj]

My first time injecting I think I had a panic attack cus I got realy dizzy and felt like I almost passed out. Had to pull out the needle and lay down for a couple mins before I got a new needle and injected the rest. I was doing it in the quads which gives you so much for control especially if you are pretty big to begin with and its hard to reach around to your ass. I ended up just doing quads the whole cycle doing 2 shots a week and was never sore or ever had a problem and there was zero pain when injecting or afterwards. I use ICNs and norma deca btw so not sure about pain for UG products. For a fist shot tho I would go with a sight you can reach very easy unless someone else is doing the shot for you. After that first one though darting will be a piece of cake. GL with the cycle and make sure you stay strict with the diet and dont skip meals or you wont be satisfied with your gains.

 

[oldfella]

I agree with some here 1st cycle go test only and i would even go as far to say 500 wk is a little on the high side. But that is my opinion! 300 would work wonders.

 

[massmaker56]

when pin in the quads what gauge and length needle did you use