steroid testing in the real world

[oldtymer]

hey guys, new to this dont know if im breaking the rules but my employer is testing for aas and thats all. after doing some research diuretics and dht blockers have a medical use in the real world and cant tell you to stop taking them if you have a perscription. so the question is this at what dosage are diuretics"blood pressure meds" and dht blockers"prostate health" going to mask the use of aas?

 

[jm425]

I've posted this somewhere else. A lot of nfl players use diuretics to try to mask aas. Not sure if it's even effective. They had that one segment on sportscenter where they caught some guys in the saints organizations using diuretics to try to mask their aas use. They somehow came to the conclusion that diuretics were being used. I highly doubt that bp meds and diuretics are going to do much for masking aas. I can't comment on dht blockers though because I don't know enough to make an assessment on them.

 

[Showy0023]

..... my employer is testing for aas and thats all.

Is this common?? I've never heard of an employer outside of professional sports drug testing for just steroids.

 

[jm425]

Is this common?? I've never heard of an employer outside of professional sports drug testing for just steroids.

Me neither. But then again, times are changing.

 

[LATS]

WHAT DO YOU DO FOR A LIVING THAT WOULD REQUIRE JUST A AAS TEST AND NOT FOR NARCOTICS???? this is odd.. but back to your question.. if you are on straight test then i have heard that proscar can mask the test by screwing up the epi ratio test they run.. if you are on nandrolone or dbol ect ect then they would find that.. but, i know a couple of guys who swear by the proscar to screw up the ratio test when using straight test..

 

[oldtymer]

times are a changing is right. want to run test e at 500mg wk and adrol 50 a day for 10wks useing hyrochlothiazide 25mg a day an advodart .5mg eod company is running both test at random.

 

[gelatine]

You might be able to get away claiming you're on some OTC product and you didn't know it was hormonally active.

Here's a list of legal ones (copy-pasted):
Boldenone based phs - 1,4AD, Bold, 1-T
Progestin based phs - (similar to trenbolone) - Trenadrol & Trenaplex
Dienolone based phs - (again similar to tren) - Mdien
Mepitiostane (Thioderon) based phs - Epithio & Clones (Havoc/Epistane/so on so forth)
DHT (Dihydrotestosterone) based phs - M5AA, Phera (3ene), DMT/Madol (2ene), The One
Masteron (Dromostanolone) based phs - Superdrol & Clones, Dymethazine
Furazabol (miotolan) based phs - Furazadrol etc
Oral Turinabol (Dehydrochlormethyltestosterone) based phs - Halodrol & Clones
Dianabol (methandrostenolone) based phs - M1,4ADD, M1T, Methyl XT
Winstrol (stanozolol) based phs - Winztrol, Orastan-A, Furaguno, etc
Progesterone based phs - Revolt, Propadrol, Max LMG
Clostebol based phs - Chlorodrol, Oxyguno

 

[bboveri]

What is your job??

 

[anguish]

job or sports team? lol...

bump for info!

 

[UncleMings]

Is this common?? I've never heard of an employer outside of professional sports drug testing for just steroids.

its becoming more common than u think. here in nyc its freaking getting strict. state level law enforcement gets tested. so does the fire dept. i know a few security companies testing for steroids and quite a few jobs that do.


my agency is planning to start next yr so im on my last cycle and thats it for me.


Personally i have heard of diuretics masking aas but never actually heard of it working. I wouldnt risk it if they are testing.

 

[gelatine]

its becoming more common than u think. here in nyc its freaking getting strict. state level law enforcement gets tested. so does the fire dept. i know a few security companies testing for steroids and quite a few jobs that do.

Yeah, but surely they'd test for narcotics too? AAS alone just boggles the mind.

 

[UncleMings]

Yeah, but surely they'd test for narcotics too? AAS alone just boggles the mind.[/QUOTE



yea narcotics they test for. me and a few co-workers have a saying. if ur taking it u better have a pescription for it. and if u dont u better work on ur spanish.

testing for aas is a freaking shame. and it makes it hard for me cuz i have a few people on my case load for aas cases and here i am on the other side of the desk with the shit running through my veins.

 

[repmks]

how are employers testing. through urine?

 

[SacToSD]

and it makes it hard for me cuz i have a few people on my case load for aas cases and here i am on the other side of the desk with the shit running through my veins.

That is funny, isn't it. I like to think that you'd be better at representing your clients than some clown that has no knowledge of AAS. You aren't the only one, either. On the other side of the fence you've also got cops being implicated in lots of steroids scandals, too. By the way, are you really Rick Collins? Is your screen name just to throw us off?

 

[UncleMings]

That is funny, isn't it. I like to think that you'd be better at representing your clients than some clown that has no knowledge of AAS. You aren't the only one, either. On the other side of the fence you've also got cops being implicated in lots of steroids scandals, too. By the way, are you really Rick Collins? Is your screen name just to throw us off?

lol no i am not rick collins and never would claim to be him. wish i had his money and knowledge though. by all means im not a lawyer either. I work for the united states courts. check the whats ur job thread if u want to know i dont want to repost it

I know of a few cops that had to go off mid cycle. its all political. how would it look that our govt is taking a stance against aas and our very own fed/state law enforcement is on the stuff when they agreed to uphold the laws of their state and country. media field day. its pathetic and a waist of time IMO.

 

[Armageddon]

I know of a few cops that had to go off mid cycle. its all political. how would it look that our govt is taking a stance against aas and our very own fed/state law enforcement is on the stuff when they agreed to uphold the laws of their state and country. media field day. its pathetic and a waist of time IMO.

I know of alot of cops in my area that use, I either knew them persoanlly or heard them talk about it with friends of mine. Those that have used it around here are fairly open about it within their little group. Guess they always thought they were untouchable.

 

[GoneForever]

If your employer doesnt test all emyploees for aas then you can sue him. You cant be singled out.

 

[kcbuilder]

If your employer doesnt test all emyploees for aas then you can sue him. You cant be singled out.

Better check your employee handbook on that one. Most companies nowadays have a comprehensive handbook that usually states something to the effect that you may be subject to random drug screening or be asked to take a drug test based solely upon suspicion of drug use, or if you are involved in an accident while working.

You sign tha you have read and received that book usually at hire.

Good luck,

I'd also love to see someone actually win that case having failed a test for aas. Good Luck Chuck

 

[Capone]

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Better check your employee handbook on that one. Most companies nowadays have a comprehensive handbook that usually states something to the effect that you may be subject to random drug screening or be asked to take a drug test based solely upon suspicion of drug use, or if you are involved in an accident while working.

You sign tha you have read and received that book usually at hire.

Good luck,

I'd also love to see someone actually win that case having failed a test for aas. Good Luck Chuck

KC is correct. Most places from fortune 500 companies down to organazations have 15 employess will have that exact statement in their handbooks. Any employee at anytime can be sent for a drug test.....seen it done numerous times for numerous reasons. If your boss doesn't like you and your known to smoke weed, or do coke, whatever....then you're as good as fired b/c all he has to do is send you for a drug test. Doesn't rly need a legitimate reason either...suspicion is good enough.

However, it's extremly rare that they test for aas with these screens. Not that it's not done, but it's rare. I've personally seen results of random employee drug screens and they test opiates, thc and a few others. not aas. It's a LOT more expensive to run aas tests. I happen to work at fortune 500 company and we don't test for aas. I'd be screwed!!!! LOL!

 

[GoneForever]

Better check your employee handbook on that one. Most companies nowadays have a comprehensive handbook that usually states something to the effect that you may be subject to random drug screening or be asked to take a drug test based solely upon suspicion of drug use, or if you are involved in an accident while working.

You sign tha you have read and received that book usually at hire.

Good luck,

I'd also love to see someone actually win that case having failed a test for aas. Good Luck Chuck

This is true and would work with most drugs except aas. There is still the no bias law and that will never change. If your eyes are always glossy they can test you for weed. If you seem cracked out they can test you for coke. But if your big they cannot test for aas. Thats a major lawsuite.