Still fighting acne, could it be the particular suppliers gear?

[Gators]

Mainly on back, shoulders, but also some on face. It looks horrible when i take my shirt off, kinda defeats the purpose when the acne embarrasses you so much you don't want to take your shirt off...

Was wondering if anyone has had much worse reactions on a particular suppliers gear? Not saying the gear i have is 'bad' or the supplier has done anything wrong, but people react differently to different 'stuff'. I'm doing 250/wk of test E...

 

[617ricky]

No, I doubt it has anything to do with the supplier.. All the Test is doing is raising your hormone/androgen levels which have effects on the skin.. I don't see how different brands would work in different ways (as long as the actual dosage is the same), making acne worse, cuz the same thing would be happening with hormone levels, which are the cause.. And I really doubt that any type of contaminant in a particular brand could give worse acne..

Someone may have worse acne from cycle to cycle using different brands, but that's all really coming to do the situation with your hormones at the time.. Why do you speculate it may be the gear - have you done a different brand and not had as bad of acne?

If it's as bad as you say, I'd definitely jump on accutane or get some Retin-A at the very least.. I had a bad breakout on a past cycle I did years ago.. I started using Retin-A about 6 months ago to take care of the occasional zit and it worked great.. And I started a little cycle last month and wanted to make sure I stayed clear, so I ran a small dosage of accutane for a few wks before I started.. I've since stopped the accutane, since it's only a small cycle, to see if I needed it, and I haven't gotten a single zit.. But I kno for a fact had I not used the Retin-A and accutane that would not be the case.

 

[iprimate]

Mainly on back, shoulders, but also some on face. It looks horrible when i take my shirt off, kinda defeats the purpose when the acne embarrasses you so much you don't want to take your shirt off...

Was wondering if anyone has had much worse reactions on a particular suppliers gear? Not saying the gear i have is 'bad' or the supplier has done anything wrong, but people react differently to different 'stuff'. I'm doing 250/wk of test E...

The acne at least indicates that your gear is well dosed. The acne is an androgenic side-effect of the T. Enanthate. The steroid is stimulating the production of sebum which is a necessary precursor to the development of acne. Testosterone is very adrogenic so this isn't an unusual side-effect but its extent in your case is unusual. Less androgenic AAS won't cause as much acne so you could switch to those but Testosterone is the basis of all good bulking stacks so I understand your dilemma.

Have you tried any topical OTC treatments:

--Soap medicated with Triclosan
--Salicylic Acid (available in spray with extended nozzle which makes it easier to treat back)
--Benzoyl Peroxide ointments (will bleach some fabrics)

If the above fail to bring you any relief then there are the more potent treatments:

--Isotretinoin
--Topical and/or oral antibiotics

 

[triathloncoach]

Acne and Cycles

I break out more just after my cycle. I thinks it's because my Est shoots up and I'm not controlling it as I should.

 

[sam1976]

there is something about omna's that make me break out something awful. after about 3 weeks at 1gram, injected EOD, i began to break out like nothing i had seen before. it got so bad. it looked like a giant rash across my back, chest and shoulders. never in all my years had i had acne like that, even using other mixed estered and fast acting tests. after about 3-4 weeks of having switched to another brand, it cleared really fast, although left scarring.

after i stopped them, i had about 10 left and after another cycle, decided to cruise on them at one omna a week-10days. once again, within 3 weeks, i got the exact same terrible swollen acne rash that lasted the duration of my use of them. there is something in them that just doesn't jive with my body.

i know the common logic is that acne is hormone fluctuation, and i have had break outs after coming off but this was something else and defies that line of thought. i gave the last few to a friend and he had zero problem.

btw, i know they were real and from a very trusted source. i dont think the gear was bad. it was just my reaction to it.

 

[Macro]

isotretinoin

Sesapure (sesamin/episesamin) can also help significantly

 

[lookatpicture]

isotretinoin

Sesapure (sesamin/episesamin) can also help significantly

x 2. iso at a low dose is a miracle.

 

[JonnyO]

I find a clean diet keeps my skin clear. When I'm trying to bulk I tend to eat some junk food here and there and will break out more often. Precontest the dosages are higher but diets clean as a whistle and never any acne so I do think a lot of it is diet related.

 

[Bigluice]

DOXYCYCLIN 100mgs twice a day gone in a week

 

[Macro]

x 2. iso at a low dose is a miracle.

so few people realize this... as is quite often the case, people often feel the higher the dose the better (but really you may get little more effects and a lot more sides).


note- some people do require the higher dose, but generally longer term low dose therapy is much more tolerable and just as effective.

 

[onslaught]

accutane while on a cycle?

um do you wanna die?

Well accutane has man sides and combined with juice, you're setting yourself up for something.


Accutane will make you week as hell by the way... The best thing second to accutane (oral) is simple Vitamin B-5. No joke, you do have to take large amounts but helps just as well with out sides. For acne use its supposed to be ran at 15 500mg pills a day for a week, then ten the next and slightly less after.

Sound like a lot, 15 pills WTF but all you get is the occasional lose stool but your skin is very clear while on cycles. This is coming from a kid with family history with bad acne. So combine that with a cycle, and you're fucked lol. So this has worked great from me....

 

[lookatpicture]

accutane while on a cycle?

um do you wanna die?

Well accutane has man sides and combined with juice, you're setting yourself up for something.


Accutane will make you week as hell by the way... The best thing second to accutane (oral) is simple Vitamin B-5. No joke, you do have to take large amounts but helps just as well with out sides. For acne use its supposed to be ran at 15 500mg pills a day for a week, then ten the next and slightly less after.

Sound like a lot, 15 pills WTF but all you get is the occasional lose stool but your skin is very clear while on cycles. This is coming from a kid with family history with bad acne. So combine that with a cycle, and you're fucked lol. So this has worked great from me....

i call bullshit. you have no idea what you are talking about. yes accutane can have many sides but generally the sides are from high dosages and the sides are way over-stated in the first place. accutane does not make you, "weak as hell." seriously man, where do you come up with this shit?

 

[onslaught]

i call bullshit. you have no idea what you are talking about. yes accutane can have many sides but generally the sides are from high dosages and the sides are way over-stated in the first place. accutane does not make you, "weak as hell." seriously man, where do you come up with this shit?

Yes High doses, maybe I should have said that. I dont remember the dose I got but I couldnt move right and felt like an old man. My back was in pain the whole time. And seriously man you can't speak for everyone and don't know about accutane as much as I do. Unless you know exactly what you're talking about, your statement is just an opinion.

 

[lookatpicture]

Yes High doses, maybe I should have said that. I dont remember the dose I got but I couldnt move right and felt like an old man. My back was in pain the whole time. And seriously man you can't speak for everyone and don't know about accutane as much as I do. Unless you know exactly what you're talking about, your statement is just an opinion.

there you go again, spouting off at the mouth. apparently, unlike yourself, i read. the literature clearly states: the lower the dose of accutane, the less the sides. so i don't know as much as you about accutane? how do you come to that conclusion, genius?

 

[onslaught]

haha you spouted first punk...


And ive done a lot of ready on accutane, took accutane, in the past was in a support group for people effected by accutane(was part of a accutane lawsuit so i was there)

So I know more then you, id say.....

 

[617ricky]

Accutane will make you week as hell by the way...

You cannot say it WILL make you weak as hell, or whatever other evil supposed side effect it purportedly causes.. You can say it CAN cause these certain side effects - but they are NOT the norm, and you'd be in the minority of users if you were to experience these sides.. MILLIONS of people have taken accutane and done just fine on it, but the sides are so blown out of proportion it's not even funny.. It's like the suicides years ago of accutane users.. Yea they make it sound so scary - but the percentage of users that committed suicide was no higher than the national average suicide rate, when you account for the millions and millions of people that took it.. So what kind of sense does that make to try and scare people about depression so bad you'll kill yourself? The hype that's been built up surrounding this drug is ridiculous..

 

[lookatpicture]

haha you spouted first punk...


And ive done a lot of ready on accutane, took accutane, in the past was in a support group for people effected by accutane(was part of a accutane lawsuit so i was there)

So I know more then you, id say.....

i say you are an idiot. you are not providing any useful information here, rather, misinformation. clearly you are ignorant.

 

[onslaught]

You cannot say it WILL make you weak as hell, or whatever other evil supposed side effect it purportedly causes.. You can say it CAN cause these certain side effects - but they are NOT the norm, and you'd be in the minority of users if you were to experience these sides.. MILLIONS of people have taken accutane and done just fine on it, but the sides are so blown out of proportion it's not even funny.. It's like the suicides years ago of accutane users.. Yea they make it sound so scary - but the percentage of users that committed suicide was no higher than the national average suicide rate, when you account for the millions and millions of people that took it.. So what kind of sense does that make to try and scare people about depression so bad you'll kill yourself? The hype that's been built up surrounding this drug is ridiculous..

Oops did i say will, I meant can thanks for letting me knows.

And lookatthepicture, go be a pussy some place else. You're shit filled mouth is not needed here.

 

[king1033]

ok so me too i look like a battle took place on my shoulders and back but for the most part i know not to use deca ever again.... deca and masteron is a trigger for acne for me. (everyone is different) but i no longer get acne hardcore like i did back in the day now i just get it here and there, i just stick with test, EQ and an oral every 6 months ran for a couple weeks. plus i wash with a loufa (SP?) i use dr bronners lavender soap (lavender helps with scaring) and i also rub on anti bacterial liquid that you would use for cuts or wounds i found this has worked for me. if anyone is interested i can find out the active ingrediants in the spray i use. I also make sure i can get some sun in whenever i can. after awhile the muscle has over powerd my scars 10 fold and women dont give a shit! i just tell them "heyyy i wish i could tell you i fought off some mountain lion or got hit bad with shrapnel, but nope acne scars babe." that Line works well i suggest you try it. but make sure you got the muscle first or else it doesnt work to well lol

 

[lookatpicture]

Oops did i say will, I meant can thanks for letting me knows.

And lookatthepicture, go be a pussy some place else. You're shit filled mouth is not needed here.

very original oncock, probably took you a half hour to put that sentence together. i understand that i pissed you off....well.........because i can and because i am right. i am intelligent and you.......well you are just a waste of time and space. unfortunately for you this board is filled lots of intelligent people. you probably should shake your ass over to ****building.com. i am sure you will fit in nicely.