Breon Ansley Talks Gear

[madg]

Mg amount on point for his fat free mass

I believe him

 

[bbxtreme]

Where?…

I’m the only “white guy” who’s mentioned receptors, but said he was NOT lying. LOL

Think he just lumped it all together in his post. Who knows…

 

[Big Dave Smith]

I’m the only “white guy” who’s mentioned receptors, but said he was NOT lying. LOL

Think he just lumped it all together in his post. Who knows…

Yes. And I didn’t mean to single you out in a bad way. We’re online buddies, and I respect you.

I just meant that people are trying very hard to justify him using more gear, or as if they caught him right after some 3g blast of gear.

My buddy caught a flight with Ed Nunn. They were both traveling to a national show together. My buddy was nails hard, on point, and a lock to win the overall at states. Ed showed up and smoked everyone at the show. My friend was on around 2-3g gear for a while leading into that show, eventually getting his pro card. Ed started asking him questions about gear, so they talked shop. My buddy was beyond shocked when he realized Ed didn’t understand half of what he was talking about. He was on small amounts of test prop, anavar, and like one other compound for a total of less than 1.5g. I think it was a gram total. No GH. No t3. This wasn’t a drop down from a previously large cycle, it was his normal amount.

Bodybuilding is the only “sport” where we think most people are somewhat equal, and that most genetics could be overcome with enough gear.

 

[bbxtreme]

Yes. And I didn’t mean to single you out in a bad way. We’re online buddies, and I respect you.

I just meant that people are trying very hard to justify him using more gear, or as if they caught him right after some 3g blast of gear.

My buddy caught a flight with Ed Nunn. They were both traveling to a national show together. My buddy was nails hard, on point, and a lock to win the overall at states. Ed showed up and smoked everyone at the show. My friend was on around 2-3g gear for a while leading into that show, eventually getting his pro card. Ed started asking him questions about gear, so they talked shop. My buddy was beyond shocked when he realized Ed didn’t understand half of what he was talking about. He was on small amounts of test prop, anavar, and like one other compound for a total of less than 1.5g. I think it was a gram total. No GH. No t3. This wasn’t a drop down from a previously large cycle, it was his normal amount.

Bodybuilding is the only “sport” where we think most people are somewhat equal, and that most genetics could be overcome with enough gear.

Agreed and know we are good on here. Didn’t take it personal. lol

I agree with the bolded as I am proof of that. I compete in the same class as Breon and I use far more gear than he does, yet it still will never make up for our genetic differences.

 

[Fit2Serve]

well, in a muscle sport where you only get paid if you win.. and everyone knows more steroids = more muscles..

doesn't really make much sense to see how well you can do with the least amount of gear possible

not saying anyone is lying about their dosages.. just laying out the logic behind the mindset that questions these claims

uh he competed in classic right?
weight cap.
he CANT keep putting on more muscle. wont make weight. riiiight?

 

[Fleezy]

uh he competed in classic right?
weight cap.
he CANT keep putting on more muscle. wont make weight. riiiight?

Right

I wasn’t suggesting he was using massive amounts of gear necessarily

I just find the amount somewhat strange/hard to believe - but not by much

I’d personally be flat af on that amount of androgens and such low test

But I don’t have bubbly black genetics.. so YMMV

 

[nothuman]

You mean nothuman? In-human was Ted. Whatever happened to him? I still remember that video of him Hammer inclining 6 or 8 plates in the grey sweats.

Dante knows my name in real life so it’s ok if he messes up my username here

 

[DOGGCRAPP]

Dante knows my name in real life so it’s ok if he messes up my username here

Yep my apologies....nothuman and i know each other....it was a quick typo mistake by me

 

[kadafi2]

The genetic elite takes little and wonders that someone needs more steroids.
The genetically untalented take a lot and wonders that someone needs little steroids.

We are NOT born equal, everyone is genetically better/worse, but does bodybuilding need only talents, like Keone Pearson? Some love doing it, even though they will never become even top amateurs. Hell, some will never even start, and they pound the stuff. And that's ok. But if no one is picking on their high doses, let them not pick on someone taking little. Again: we are not equal. It's great that we live in times where genetics can be cheated with steroids to some extent, but 100 years ago, all PM would have had to train naturally. Let's at least appreciate that, because our ancestors could not even partially cheat genetics.

PS 1: The term "Negro gene" is beautifully true.
PS 2: I don't believe in his doses lol

 

[marssel]

I wouldn't compare 900mg test with 300mg tren because they are two completely different animals but I agree that if we lower the total amount of mg but add tren it can be even stronger despite the smaller total pool of mg - tren changes the game

Yea I know it’s not the same just that like you said tren is a huge force multiplier and it’s affinity for the androgen receptors is dramatically stronger than testosterone

 

[juggy38]

Playing D2 ball taught me about genetics. We would get D1 second string/third string transfers.

We got this guy…we called him Black Mal. 6’1 225lbs of granite marble. 34inch vertical, could chase down running backs, squatted 500lbs ATG with ease.

He would fake workout during offseason, loved cannabis, and his diet was mostly Fanta and McDoubles.

Like I always wonder what 500mg of test and 600mg of EQ with actually lifting and eating real food would of done

Edit: he was my best bud…no hate. Just envy lol

 

[Dezzy]

Yes. And I didn’t mean to single you out in a bad way. We’re online buddies, and I respect you.

I just meant that people are trying very hard to justify him using more gear, or as if they caught him right after some 3g blast of gear.

My buddy caught a flight with Ed Nunn. They were both traveling to a national show together. My buddy was nails hard, on point, and a lock to win the overall at states. Ed showed up and smoked everyone at the show. My friend was on around 2-3g gear for a while leading into that show, eventually getting his pro card. Ed started asking him questions about gear, so they talked shop. My buddy was beyond shocked when he realized Ed didn’t understand half of what he was talking about. He was on small amounts of test prop, anavar, and like one other compound for a total of less than 1.5g. I think it was a gram total. No GH. No t3. This wasn’t a drop down from a previously large cycle, it was his normal amount.

Bodybuilding is the only “sport” where we think most people are somewhat equal, and that most genetics could be overcome with enough gear.

It's understandable due to mystique of the necessity of pharmacology in bodybuilding. It's very confusing, until you actually get around the genetically elite and then it all makes sense. It's very humbling.

 

[johnjuanb1]

His Olympia protocol according to him:

100mg Test Cyp MWF, 300mg/wk
100mg Mast P MWF, 300mg/wk
100mg Primo MWF, 300mg/wk
100mg Tren blend (acetate and enanthate) MF, 200mg/wk
0.5mg Arimidex MF
20mg nolvadex every day
4iu gh Mon-Fri
20mg Halo pre-workout training days 2 weeks out
40mg Halo pre-workout training days 1 week out

His competition weight cap for classic is 187lbs.

With his DNA I absolutely believe it!

 

[aHarness]

Yes. And I didn’t mean to single you out in a bad way. We’re online buddies, and I respect you.

I just meant that people are trying very hard to justify him using more gear, or as if they caught him right after some 3g blast of gear.

My buddy caught a flight with Ed Nunn. They were both traveling to a national show together. My buddy was nails hard, on point, and a lock to win the overall at states. Ed showed up and smoked everyone at the show. My friend was on around 2-3g gear for a while leading into that show, eventually getting his pro card. Ed started asking him questions about gear, so they talked shop. My buddy was beyond shocked when he realized Ed didn’t understand half of what he was talking about. He was on small amounts of test prop, anavar, and like one other compound for a total of less than 1.5g. I think it was a gram total. No GH. No t3. This wasn’t a drop down from a previously large cycle, it was his normal amount.

Bodybuilding is the only “sport” where we think most people are somewhat equal, and that most genetics could be overcome with enough gear.

I’m the only “white guy” who’s mentioned receptors, but said he was NOT lying. LOL

Think he just lumped it all together in his post. Who knows…

Yeah sorry, I was just trying to make the point that it seems like in this thread for the most part no one is trying to call bs

 

[Big Dave Smith]

Playing D2 ball taught me about genetics. We would get D1 second string/third string transfers.

We got this guy…we called him Black Mal. 6’1 225lbs of granite marble. 34inch vertical, could chase down running backs, squatted 500lbs ATG with ease.

He would fake workout during offseason, loved cannabis, and his diet was mostly Fanta and McDoubles.

Like I always wonder what 500mg of test and 600mg of EQ with actually lifting and eating real food would of done

Edit: he was my best bud…no hate. Just envy lol

Nobody here takes this the wrong way. Unfortunately we’ve lost the ability/freedom to mention differences, characteristics, behaviors, etc. among races, cultures, and sexes. Facts and data are now disinformation.

 

[SouthernMuscle]

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Nobody here takes this the wrong way. Unfortunately we’ve lost the ability/freedom to mention differences, characteristics, behaviors, etc. among races, cultures, and sexes. Facts and data are now disinformation.

confused, what’s going on?

 

[Fleezy]

Nobody here takes this the wrong way.

i took it the wrong way

 

[thethinker48]

Playing D2 ball taught me about genetics. We would get D1 second string/third string transfers.

We got this guy…we called him Black Mal. 6’1 225lbs of granite marble. 34inch vertical, could chase down running backs, squatted 500lbs ATG with ease.

He would fake workout during offseason, loved cannabis, and his diet was mostly Fanta and McDoubles.

Like I always wonder what 500mg of test and 600mg of EQ with actually lifting and eating real food would of done

Edit: he was my best bud…no hate. Just envy lol

100%. Pick a sport with any factor of athleticism required and you will see examples of this

We have a guy in my BJJ gym who is a hw collegiate wrestler, I've seen him get up from a backpack position (the person is on your back) and walk around laughing with a 300 lb polish plumber on his back trying to choke him out lol

He squats 500+ lbs for reps, is always lean and eats absolute garbage, just trains multiple times a day. I could take enough tren and halo to kill a bison, and he would still throw me across the mat , and this is a skill based sport.

Bodybuilding is a physique competition. It literally is just understanding the fundamentals of training hard, eating the same thing for 10 years, taking drugs and sleeping. And you can get 500 non responders (I call these science based lifters lol jk), 10,000 average joes, a few thousand amateur bodybuilders, a couple hundred pros (it meant more 20 years ago), and 1 Ronnie Coleman.

The difference between average to a decent amateur/lower level pro can be achieved through an insane work ethic, the rest onwards up is genetics (and this includes doing all of the above for a decade, and not getting sick, getting injured --> Genetic, the monsters on this board all encompass some form of this genetic trait)

 

[Elvia1023]

I don't really understand the confusion. That's a perfectly good cycle for someone in his position. It's what I would call a reasonable amount. The guy has a weight cap and isn't massive and he has held his physique for many years. Guys on here often think people must be lying because more gear means you look better but it isn't as black/white as that. Much more gear might make him look worse. Much more gear might make it more difficult for him to get super hard and it might cause issues with digestion (... distention) etc.

Nothing about that cycle comes across as a lie. Even guys who think things like well he is genetically superior so he only has to use that amount. Someone with decent (far from superior) genetics could do just fine using similar amounts competing in classic. 1100mg AAS (including a little tren) with halo on top at the end is enough for anyone to get in great shape as long as everything else is 100%. Then when you factor in all the other variables (his genetics, weight, age etc) it's very reasonable. He very well may have used more in the past but I also don't get the guys who think he must have used 3x the amount to grow originally. I am sure there are guys competing on the classic stage taking half that amount and others taking 5x that amount.

 

[marssel]

One of my best looks was:
300 Test
300 Primo
300 Mast
300 Tren
300 Winny

Not too much difference. The Primo and Mast were doing something for me

Was that a cut or just a rando cycle. I think mast is so underrated