Tren Hex (parabolan) vs Tren A/E

[juiceball44]

The Test Flu is usually when you getting on and coming off Test - the hormone fluctuations give you flu like symptoms. I remember when I took Sus in high school I got that and it was awful.

To answer your question you just keep pushing - you’ll know when something is off. I’m on 2.1 grams right now and feel delightful.

Coming off test? Whats that mean

Lmao but good to know I do ed injections even with longer esters to keep everything nice and steady. Ive never pushed with just test so think thats gonna be the next move

 

[danieltx]

When you say as much test as you can handle, how do you know when you are at the limit? Do you get to a point where you just feel like shit, like test flu Ive heard people call it?

It's when you just can't handle it any more. That might be due to lethargy, lack of appetite, different things. It certainly could be just feeling like shit. Some guys hit that at 1,000mg/week, some guys push it to multiple grams per week.

Part of it is also estrogen management. When you push test higher and higher you have to manage estrogen correctly or it will make you feel like shit.

 

[Pizza15]

I think that a low dose tren can make a long way.

For 300-400 TrenE/A together with high dose of HGH, Test and EQ/Primo (not really a fan of Primo since it's high mls) is the way to go.

Since I have read the thread from @bbxtreme , running Tren has become even easier and bloods improved by a lot.
The DAO is really making the difference.

At that dose E or A doesn't really make a big difference. I tried high high doses and Ace seems giving me less sides, but since I don't compete for sure I will never use high doses of it anymore.

 

[Pizza15]

Coming off test? Whats that mean

Lmao but good to know I do ed injections even with longer esters to keep everything nice and steady. Ive never pushed with just test so think thats gonna be the next move

Test is awesome makes everything larger and fuller. I regret so much of using low test for years upon years.

 

[hawkmoon]

I've said before I strongly prefer tren hex and feel parabolan was superior in quality. One Negma amp a week was enough, three was nuts.

My bodt doesn't seem to like enanthate in general, so there's another reason for when I purposely go for tren I prefer hex.

These days I rarely use tren, usually only of it's in a blend that I have because of cost efficiency. I do believe it's best used in prep to hold tissue and create a certain look in the late stages.

If I'm looking for a strength drug Anadrol is my choice, for size it's Deca.

 

[Parabolic33]

Do we really know if tren is as bad and toxic people claim.

Orals toxicity I understand - we see that on the majority’s blood results.

But tren I feel like I see more blood results (myself included) where I’m not as skewed as I’d expect from what people say

Same. No discernible difference with tren vs anything else on bloodwork.

 

[Parabolic33]

Yes. Part of the reason I joined this board was to learn. Was kinda just wingin it for a while. May or may not have watched a few too many Todd Lee videos..

Being here a few days and I realized I’ve been doing about 90% of things wrong

Im going to try the high masteron during my next growth phase. I’m not convinced it doesn’t grow tissue.

I am convinced it makes me flatter/smaller but harder. And I can see for that reason, most logical people would see that effect and when trying to grow - would ditch the masteron, leading to not many people spending tons of time during a bulk on masteron. But I don’t think that necessarily means it won’t grow tissue. But im
Not sure, so that’s why I’m gunna try it for myself.

I’m going to use just masteron with my usual
Dose of injectable estradiol enanthate to keep
My e2 where I like, so even my test base won’t be an added variable. I’ll ask Todd if he wants to do another podcast when I’m done.

 

[dxteran]

The day after this prep ends you can bet money I am dropping tren and jumping straight back to MENT. That’s how confident I am in that statement.

Tren has its place but it’s NOT the best compound to build tissue.

In your opinion what are the best compounds to run for lean tissue building? If someone said “ hey I lost 100 lbs now its time to rebound and build lean muscle with minimal fat gain” what would the best course of action?

Basically, I lost 100 lbs lol from January till now. The wife now says im too skinny and I definitely need to build back muscle.

 

[bbxtreme]

In your opinion what are the best compounds to run for lean tissue building? If someone said “ hey I lost 100 lbs now its time to rebound and build lean muscle with minimal fat gain” what would the best course of action?

Basically, I lost 100 lbs lol from January till now. The wife now says im too skinny and I definitely need to build back muscle.

That’s easy. Build your test dosage and work up from there into a second compound such as primo in terms of gear. I would not dive straight into harsh compounds or crazy high dosages.

But if you lost 100lb since January that’s diet and training, primarily diet. Fix that before anything.

 

[dxteran]

That’s easy. Build your test dosage and work up from there into a second compound such as primo in terms of gear. I would not dive straight into harsh compounds or crazy high dosages.

But if you lost 100lb since January that’s diet and training, primarily diet. Fix that before anything.

It was all diet! I did use Tirzepatide but I was still strict with what I ate. Ill just keep eating clean and up the protein.

Test and primo is what I was thinking too. Thanks brother and looking good man! Hopefully one day I can look half as good as you!

 

[King-kong2]

Don’t mean to hijack a thread but felt we have enough tren threads. Was wondering if anyone has front loaded hex before. I’ve done about ten tren cycles. Once with Parabolan years ago. Like decades. Then move to basskillers recipe. Then just e or a. But been reading on hex and some places it says takes a month for it to get results goin.
Cant believe ev u read on the web but any opinions appreciated. Stumbled across some hex in my boxes of things. Have ace and e as well. Norm I’d say pick one and be patient.

 

[Jacked_]

Don’t mean to hijack a thread but felt we have enough tren threads. Was wondering if anyone has front loaded hex before. I’ve done about ten tren cycles. Once with Parabolan years ago. Like decades. Then move to basskillers recipe. Then just e or a. But been reading on hex and some places it says takes a month for it to get results goin.
Cant believe ev u read on the web but any opinions appreciated. Stumbled across some hex in my boxes of things. Have ace and e as well. Norm I’d say pick one and be patient.

From my experience 600 for 2 weeks will get you close to perceived full saturation in 3 weeks of 300 total.

 

[dimethyl11]

I wouldn’t front load, especially not tren. What’s 3 extra weeks going to bring to a marathon of adding lbm

 

[King-kong2]

I wouldn’t front load, especially not tren. What’s 3 extra weeks going to bring to a marathon of adding lbm

You’re prob right. I never got much sides except sleep sweats. And the cough when taking. But tbh I kinda liked it cuz it confirmed was gtg.
But it’s been 8-9 years prob more - and I could have a diff rxn to it. Not likely worth the risk. Guess I just miss the results I’d get on it. Was like a daily change.


Previous king-kong (lost password)

 

[MightyJohn]

For whatever reason I'm the same. Sides from ace are killer for me anymore and the enth ester isn't much better, Why I can tolerate hex.....I have no idea.

I'm SUPER Tren sensitive....Tren E 25-30mg TOPS/wk...by .2(40mg/wk...SIDES)
Tren Hex I was able to take up to 60mg/wk & results were AWESOME....slow onset = less sides

 

[Veneficus_Rex]

Should hex be dosed lower than enanthate, or the same. Like if 200mg per week if enanthate is enough for me to notice results, would it take 200mg of hex for the same effect?

 

[Mufasa123]

Should hex be dosed lower than enanthate, or the same. Like if 200mg per week if enanthate is enough for me to notice results, would it take 200mg of hex for the same effect?

From memory enanthate and hex are similar ester weights (acetate is much lighter) so dosing should be equivalent. Similar half lives too. I found this quickly but it matches others and memory from looking at it before.

Amount of Active Hormone [per 100mg]
Trenbolone Base: 100mg
Trenbolone Acetate: 83mg
Trenbolone Enanthate: 68mg
Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzyl Carbonate: 65mg
Trenbolone cyclohexylmethylcarbonate: 65mg

 

[MightyJohn]

From memory enanthate and hex are similar ester weights (acetate is much lighter) so dosing should be equivalent. Similar half lives too. I found this quickly but it matches others and memory from looking at it before.

Amount of Active Hormone [per 100mg]
Trenbolone Base: 100mg
Trenbolone Acetate: 83mg
Trenbolone Enanthate: 68mg
Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzyl Carbonate: 65mg
Trenbolone cyclohexylmethylcarbonate: 65mg

Weight correlates to length…higher weight = shorter acting Tren Hex being longest

 

[Veneficus_Rex]

From memory enanthate and hex are similar ester weights (acetate is much lighter) so dosing should be equivalent. Similar half lives too. I found this quickly but it matches others and memory from looking at it before.

Amount of Active Hormone [per 100mg]
Trenbolone Base: 100mg
Trenbolone Acetate: 83mg
Trenbolone Enanthate: 68mg
Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzyl Carbonate: 65mg
Trenbolone cyclohexylmethylcarbonate: 65mg

Thank you!

 

[fisther69]

For whatever reason I'm the same. Sides from ace are killer for me anymore and the enth ester isn't much better, Why I can tolerate hex.....I have no idea.

I get the most sides from Tren E..but it’s still my favorite