trying to minimize the yo-yo effect

[Liphted]

All of my cycles so far have consisted of your typical 12 week stack of an androgen with an anabolic. I like the combination as I feel it gives me the best results through what I think is a synergistic effect and I think most people will agree with me on that part.

So, to my point and where I'm looking for some input, I've had various combinations of the two (androgen and anabolic), but the duration of my cycle has always been the same and I want to experiment with that to see if it impacts the final results.

I'm thinking a 4 week blast with a 3 week cruise and repeat, doing this a total of 4 times (28 weeks total) and at the end coming off everything and running a light GH cycle and then start planning my next go.

The 4 week blast will obviously consist of some fast acting compounds (I'm thinking Test. prop and NPP), which I plan on keeping around 1g/week combined.
During the 3 week cruise phase I want to try to recover as much as possible using HCG and only running var @ 50mg to try and keep as much as possible while not hitting my system with anything heavy.

I usually keep things very simple and try to concentrate on diet and training, but I feel I've really nailed those down in the last year and want to fiddle with the last remaining variable, thus the (what I consider to be) "complicated" cycle. Input is welcome from everyone of course, but I'm really hoping to hear from people that have DONE similar cycles and the RESULTS they got from them.

 

[Philips]

IMO its better to run a longer regular cycle.

 

[Dad]

I think the shorter cycles with test prop or even test aqueous would work well.

The trick, from my experience, is to disrupt the HPT axis as little as possible, keep the extra estrogen down (this is where longer cycles create potential problems), and get your HPT axis back "on line" as fast as possible.

Yuo might want to consider staying on Nolvadex, and an aromatase inhibitor like Arimidaex during your cruise phases, and add in some Clomid during the first two weeks or so. Go easy on the HCG as this will tell your hypothalamus that everything is ok, and that there's no need for it to kick back in.

Just some thoughts - there are a number of ways to juggle this.

 

[Liphted]

Thanks for the input guys.

@Dad,
You nailed exactly what I'm trying to do, although I don't think it was any secret. I'm trying to minimize that time PC when for about a month (for me anyways) those hard earned gains just seem to slowly slip away until your HPTA decides to kick back in. My thinking is that that month will be reduced to days and even though less gains will be made in the 4 weeks of blasting, in the end the net effect will be greater than your standard "always on" cycle. Thats the hope anyways, only experimenting will put my mind at ease.

Ooops, forgot to mention the Arimidex and Nolva, good call. I do plan on running them both throughout, but I can't touch clomid. For some reason it causes me to breakout like a madman. I'm thinking of running them starting the last week of the blast phase and all throughout the cruise period.

As far as the HCG I'm thinking 250-500ui every 3 days for the first 2 weeks during the cruise and then dropping it completely. I'm not sure if thats too little for too short a time, any input?

 

[Dad]

HCG plan sounds good - minimal doses like that will get "the boys" functioning without inhibiting the hypothalamus.

Missing the Clomid isn't the end of the world, but in that case, I'd make sure to do everything you can to keep the estrogen down. Yuo can get a rough gauge of this by whether or not you're holding water. Look at your ankles, and if you're holding any excess water, you're going to want to increase the nolvadex and aromatase inhibitor until that's not happenning. THese two drugs work in completely different ways, so I think there's a strong argument for using them together.

Sounds like you're on the right track!