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Var Equivalent???

jdavid1139

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Hey guys. Had my first set of gear last year, and wanted to do it again for the summer, and beach time... Did Var at 25 mg daily (i know its low...) and some clin. Wanted to know if there was a comparable oral (hate needles) to Var. I had great results. I am in Thailand at the moment, so its just a strole down the street to the local pharmacy :)D ) Any ideas?
 
25mg is not low i.e oxandrin brand that comes in 2.5mg is sufficient 4tabs/day. You won't gain more than 3-5lbs of lean mass. Your muscle will get harder and denser and dry. Strength will increase a lot. It will shut you down just like any anabolics test compound. Also your lipids will reverse (low HDL and high LDL) and LFTs will be high
 
t-bol

if that's the route you're going to choose try turinabol.
 
BUMPP!! in the long run you will only hurt yourself.
what you think i like needles?? hahahaha
i don't think any of us love needles.when i go to the doc for blood work i still feel kinda weird gettin it done.nor can i stand watching my bro hit himself when he's on cycle but when it comes to doin it myself...it's hit n go.done.if you're serious about pushing yur genetic boundaries you gotta get over that fear.orals only just won't cut it if yur goals are like many of ours.
 
if that's the route you're going to choose try turinabol.

i concur, other than slight raise in bp i never noticed a difference between good var and tbol. var may have given me better pumps but for the price tbol wins.
 
Hey guys. Had my first set of gear last year, and wanted to do it again for the summer, and beach time... Did Var at 25 mg daily (i know its low...) and some clin. Wanted to know if there was a comparable oral (hate needles) to Var. I had great results. I am in Thailand at the moment, so its just a strole down the street to the local pharmacy :)D ) Any ideas?

i think a good var replacement would be the cardio steak diet, it works trust me!!
 
... not sure what brand I had, but they were 10mg tabs, and I took 2.5 a day. The things I read were that this was a begginer dose, but maybe not... Thanks for the advice. I read that T-bol was a good equiv. Just wanted some advice...
 
i don't think any of us love needles.when i go to the doc for blood work i still feel kinda weird gettin it done.nor can i stand watching my bro hit himself when he's on cycle but when it comes to doin it myself...it's hit n go.done.if you're serious about pushing yur genetic boundaries you gotta get over that fear.orals only just won't cut it if yur goals are like many of ours.

this brings out a good point....different goals for different ppl. For what hes looking for an oral only cycle maybe sufficient...
 
ok, so I will think like you...

Everybody has their own opinons on why, how, and amount for different reasons. I don't bash others for doing it, so I guess I would expect the same from others, guess I was wrong... Anyways, thanks for everyone's "useful" feedback, and I will be probably asking more in the future, if Suprman will let me... Didn't know looking good was not a sufficient reason for gear...
 
Everybody has their own opinons on why, how, and amount for different reasons. I don't bash others for doing it, so I guess I would expect the same from others, guess I was wrong... Anyways, thanks for everyone's "useful" feedback, and I will be probably asking more in the future, if Suprman will let me... Didn't know looking good was not a sufficient reason for gear...
jd,theres no problem with using "gear" for looking good its just that some guys will do a quick cycle to "buff up or cut up"and then when the season's over its back to the same old workouts again and not taknig into account of the pct aspect of things.years ago pct and "smart usage" for most of us was unheard of.now with all the knowledge on aas usage at the stroke of a keyboard many,if not most of us,take a more scientific approach to it.speaking for myself i just wanna see you do the right cycle the right way for whatever goal or application you have.:)
 
I wouldnt ever advice an oral only cycle, but i must admit my first cycle was an all oral one.. If memory serves, i used var, winny, and primo. Not the harshest in regards to orals, but i kept nothing after my cycle was over..but not many that i knew at that time did any sort of real PCT including myself. Now my second cycle was a inj cycle, and ill be honest...when i did my first shot, my hands were shaking so fast it was like they a current running through them...but i guess any one would be nervous looking at a sust rediject needle...lol. As far as var, i would say for me 40mg would be the lowest i would ever go, but i have a lot of years under my belt. Oral turin to me felt more like winny than var, but who knows if i even had ligit OT. But in the long run i feel a test only cycle would give you some great results, even if kept on the low end, and you would avoid the oral related sides..not to mention a lot better results. And btw bro, shots are not that bad. CJ
 
Hey guys. Had my first set of gear last year, and wanted to do it again for the summer, and beach time... Did Var at 25 mg daily (i know its low...) and some clin. Wanted to know if there was a comparable oral (hate needles) to Var. I had great results. I am in Thailand at the moment, so its just a strole down the street to the local pharmacy :)D ) Any ideas?
Personally I find Var so weak even at 100 mgs that adding 50 extra grams of protein per day would be better. JMO
 
yeah...

suprman,

I value everyone's opinon here. But when you call something stupid, I take offense. I just would never refer to something as stupid when I don't have any idea who or what this person is about. Anyways, the reason I am on this site and ask questions is that my friend of 20 years is on here, he is a serious competitor, and wins shows. He is highly respected here. I have been training for about 4 years seriously. I do cardio everyday, I lift heavy 3 days a week, and lift moderately 2 days a week. I am about 5'7". And right now I tip the scales at 142. About 11% bodyfat, which is alot for me. The reason I do gear is to peak in the summer and feel a little stronger. I am not an expert in any way, and I realize that the majority of people here know way more than me. So that's why I ask questions. I worked out seriously for 3 years before I did gear. I have been an athlete my whole life, and worked out, but have only seriously done the whole package for 4 years now. My diet is clean, and I liked the hard look I get from the little cycle I did, so I think Var is a little expensive, so I wanted a little cheaper alternate. If I only do once a year, then the things I have read don't seem to harsh. But then again I could be wrong. But in the future trying to call people out on stats is not the best idea. Its easy for me to admit, but again I know you are new here, and still learning the board. I don't post much here, because I don't have more knowledge than most people here. This kind of website attracts all kinds. Competitors, novices, and amateurs. I am maybe below the last level. I did research for about a year before I choose Var. Anyways, that's my story...
 
xxsuprman22xx,

You seem to be good at calling people stupid and then asking for their pictures.

I don't see any pictures of you in the picture forum. You said you've busted your ass, let's see it.

Most people use anabolics for cosmetic reasons.

Please refrain from your negative remarks in the future.

Strike one.
 
jdavid, you don't have to explain yourself to this arrogant ass.

suprman,

I value everyone's opinon here. But when you call something stupid, I take offense. I just would never refer to something as stupid when I don't have any idea who or what this person is about. Anyways, the reason I am on this site and ask questions is that my friend of 20 years is on here, he is a serious competitor, and wins shows. He is highly respected here. I have been training for about 4 years seriously. I do cardio everyday, I lift heavy 3 days a week, and lift moderately 2 days a week. I am about 5'7". And right now I tip the scales at 142. About 11% bodyfat, which is alot for me. The reason I do gear is to peak in the summer and feel a little stronger. I am not an expert in any way, and I realize that the majority of people here know way more than me. So that's why I ask questions. I worked out seriously for 3 years before I did gear. I have been an athlete my whole life, and worked out, but have only seriously done the whole package for 4 years now. My diet is clean, and I liked the hard look I get from the little cycle I did, so I think Var is a little expensive, so I wanted a little cheaper alternate. If I only do once a year, then the things I have read don't seem to harsh. But then again I could be wrong. But in the future trying to call people out on stats is not the best idea. Its easy for me to admit, but again I know you are new here, and still learning the board. I don't post much here, because I don't have more knowledge than most people here. This kind of website attracts all kinds. Competitors, novices, and amateurs. I am maybe below the last level. I did research for about a year before I choose Var. Anyways, that's my story...

There is always some internet loser, who thinks they know everything. Sounds like you are an athlete, and have read about anavar. Your reasons are every bit as valid. I am tired of people who behave like xxsuprman22xx.

Disrespectful, rude, and arrogant.
 
There is no point in shutting down your hpta for 25mg var(yes it will shut you down the same as 1000mg of test). Anyway such a low dose oral like that would just end up being a waste of money. I suggest running some IGF or GH or some peptides and maybe add some tribulus. It will save you the hassel of a pct and you'll actually be able to gain "some" muscle.
 
something wrong here

you know what's messed up here. majority of people here criticizing what this guy is doing would have a BETTER attitude and be more helpful if he said
"im planning 400mg deca 600mg test c/week. i had good results from var but i'd like to try something cheaper but similar to it. any suggestions?" but he said he's doing a low dose oral only so he gets crucified. i don't get it:confused: ? is anyone else seeing this or is it just me???
 
do as LITTLE possible of super supplements to get the result you want. sounds like the result he wants is a bit leaner and harder. sounds like var would be the one :)
-STEEELE

excellent advice imo
 

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