Very serious question

meanjoebean · Jul 31, 2008

Alright guys, I need some opinions on this, whether professional, personal, or any other type. First off, I'm 19, 5'8" on a good day and 180 lbs give or take 12% bf. I'm wanting to look into taking growth hormone to see if it will make me taller. I've been the same height for a few years and doc says that based on my hand x-rays I'm done growing. I also know that the doc might say that to convince me to stop thinking about gh because I'm an average sized healthy young man. I've heard that bones keep "growing" and replacing bone tissue into the 30's and guys can grow taller until as old as 21 in some cases. By the way I've been heavily into powerlifting and bodybuilding for about 5 or so years so I'm not sure if the extra testosterone and consequently estrogen prematurely fused my growth plates. I know probably none of you are endo's but just any opinions would be helpful.
Thanks

chop · Jul 31, 2008

hey bro, i'm almost positive GH wont make you taller . but i know alot of guys that grew in there early 20ees. i wouldn't worry about what you cant change and focus on things you you can change.and by the way i'm 5'8" 205 10% 38 yrs good luck

Raging Bull · Aug 1, 2008

meanjoebean said:
Alright guys, I need some opinions on this, whether professional, personal, or any other type. First off, I'm 19, 5'8" on a good day and 180 lbs give or take 12% bf. I'm wanting to look into taking growth hormone to see if it will make me taller. I've been the same height for a few years and doc says that based on my hand x-rays I'm done growing. I also know that the doc might say that to convince me to stop thinking about gh because I'm an average sized healthy young man. I've heard that bones keep "growing" and replacing bone tissue into the 30's and guys can grow taller until as old as 21 in some cases. By the way I've been heavily into powerlifting and bodybuilding for about 5 or so years so I'm not sure if the extra testosterone and consequently estrogen prematurely fused my growth plates. I know probably none of you are endo's but just any opinions would be helpful.
Thanks

I grew leaps and bounds from 22-27. I was 185 pounds, and in 5 years I was 280, and my BF wasnt out of control either, it was good weight. Give your body a chance to grow on its own.

diesel158 · Aug 1, 2008

GH at 19? Not a good idea. what's wrong with 5'8?

maldorf · Aug 1, 2008

In most people the long bones will have closed growth plates by that age. Chances would be slim to none for you to grow in height. At your age, GH is already high.

rAJJIN · Aug 1, 2008

well My understanding on that is That the Old school Original HGH would make you taller...make your Forehead stretch,Hands And feet Bigger etc etc.
It was Taken directly from the pituitary (sp) Gland (small gland in the brain)
of dead people.
Real dangerous stuff that had a lot of side effects and problems.

Now days (Cant remember when it changed??) Its called rHGH.
suppose to be simm but without the Bad side effects.

rHGH may make you taller if you were a certain age. I dont know of Any grown men that have gotten Taller from it.

BuffD · Aug 1, 2008

If your growth plates are fused then there isn't really any way for you to grow. Any added bone will just make your bones thicker but not longer imo.

rAJJIN · Aug 1, 2008

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growth_hormone_treatment

big E · Aug 1, 2008

Rajin, very good article for someone like this who is wondering about benfits of gh. All the other answers are very good but the 19 yo should read this to get a very good view on what gh is. In my opinion, teanagers-no way. twenties-shouldn't bother. thirties- very good benefits at low dose. fourties and older- definitely, go for it! In fact consider it like you would a multiy vitamin/mineral supplement!

Nssca · Aug 1, 2008

What your doc told you about your x-ray is your Epiphyseal plate or growth plates of all your bones have closed. Doctors dont lie, to keep you in the dark.
Epiphyseal plates are present in growing bones. They are found in children and are present through puberty and early adulthood. These plates are located at one or both ends of bones between the epiphysis (end) and the diaphysis (shaft) of long bones. Growth occurs towards the diaphysis or shaft of the long bone. In most adults, the epiphyseal plates ossify( become solid) by the mid twenties and growth arrests. In your case they have closed
( according to your Physician). Girls close generally earlirer than boys....So GH will not make you taller...sorry
If however you had taken GH at 12-13 or before your grwoth plates solidified..then you could have been 2-3 inches taller.

KillerStack · Aug 1, 2008

rAJJIN said:
well My understanding on that is That the Old school Original HGH would make you taller...make your Forehead stretch,Hands And feet Bigger etc etc.
It was Taken directly from the pituitary (sp) Gland (small gland in the brain)
of dead people.
Real dangerous stuff that had a lot of side effects and problems.

Now days (Cant remember when it changed??) Its called rHGH.
suppose to be simm but without the Bad side effects.

rHGH may make you taller if you were a certain age. I dont know of Any grown men that have gotten Taller from it.

Cadaver GH having these effects but rhGH not doesn't make sense to me. The rhGH is supposed to be identical to human GH. If the effects differed like that they would have to work through different mechanisms.

Nssca · Aug 1, 2008

rAJJIN said:
well My understanding on that is That the Old school Original HGH would make you taller...make your Forehead stretch,Hands And feet Bigger etc etc.
It was Taken directly from the pituitary (sp) Gland (small gland in the brain)
of dead people.
Real dangerous stuff that had a lot of side effects and problems.

Now days (Cant remember when it changed??) Its called rHGH.
suppose to be simm but without the Bad side effects.

rHGH may make you taller if you were a certain age. I dont know of Any grown men that have gotten Taller from it.

Cadaver derived GH was dangerous because it came with diseases and it was unpredictable in its potency both to high and to low. rhGH is purified, controlled and stable because it is made in a lab. growth hormone produced by recombinant DNA technology and is abbreviated "rhGH" in human.
rhGH is what is used in growth deficient children and other uses.

rAJJIN · Aug 1, 2008

KillerStack said:
Cadaver GH having these effects but rhGH not doesn't make sense to me. The rhGH is supposed to be identical to human GH. If the effects differed like that they would have to work through different mechanisms.

I could be wrong. Maybe it was myth But I always remember hearing the Original
(cadaver) GH was Giving guys (Grown men) the "Frankenstein disease" And Would also make your hands and feet Bigger and was a Lot more dangerous then the now Used rHGH.
Sounds Like I was Off though by saying it would Make an adult taller.....
sounds Like If your Done growing your done. I Guess For getting taller regardless of what type Old or new it would have had to have been used at a certain age.

meanjoebean · Aug 1, 2008

I knew most of you guys would steer me clear of it, which shows that a lot of you care about the well-being of someone you don't know. I appreciate the honesty and the info from all of you. You're right though, I probably have enough igf-1 circulating to get taller if it was in my genes (my dad's 6'4" so I don't see how it isnt but oh well). There's absolutely nothing wrong with 5'8" but I know that I only have another year or two to even think about this, the window's closing if it's not already. I'll just keep working out, eating right, and sleeping good, if I get taller cool, if not, phuket right lol. I know one thing though, when school starts back I'm going to the university doc and getting blood work done to see if everything's where it's supposed to be. Another thing, as soon as my test or gh levels dip below "healthy" I'm getting on, from all I've researched, read, and learned from you guys on the multiple bbing forums I've been on, I've come to the conclusion that the safe, responsilbe use of aas and gh is nothing but healthy (given you don't have certain health problems). Thanks for the advice guys.

blackhole · Aug 1, 2008

bro you're 19 and i assume you have reached puberty, this means that the epiphyseal plates are closed to further elongation - YOU AREN'T GONNA GET TALLER. now of course the bones can thicken from GH and you can get all sorts of forehead growth and other weird looking bone enlargements, but not height. sorry bro. and i feel ya i am barely 5'8" lol

phatkid77 · Aug 1, 2008

IM 50/50...SOME DAYS I WISH I WS 6'2 OR 6'3, FOR HOCKEY AND shit...and im 5'11 with shitty legs...so A..dont want the height for that... and then somedays 5'8 or 5'9 would be sweet with regards to looking like a BB....well, easier anyway....

phats

saudades · Aug 1, 2008

Don't be too quick to say a 19-year-old's growth plates are closed. Considering that his father is 6' 4", he may actually still grow some. I've heard of some guys being short (5' 8" range) who had tall fathers, and they suddenly had a growth spurt in their 20s to 6' 2" to 6' 5".

Now in the case if he's done a couple of cycles of test, then maybe the growth plates did close. It would all depend on how good he controlled the estrogen since that is what causes the closure and most young guys know nothing about PCT or anti-estrogens. You really never know.

EGB1 · Aug 1, 2008

first post on this board.. hi there.

im going to go away from the heard on this one and just say that a friend of mine did gh at 22, and grew about 2.5" between 22-24. he was about 6' when he began and was not an "underdeveloped prepubecent" sort of guy. Im not claiming it was the gh, but like was mentioned above being 5'8 at 19 doesnt mean your going to be 5'8 for life.

meanjoebean · Aug 2, 2008

Thanks for the input guys. Yea I don't necessarily think that I'm completely done growing, even if my hand bones are fused they'd still need to xray the knees and other long bone joints, I'm not ruling it out though. I've never done any steroids but I do believe heavy lifting can stunt growth, which I believe happened to me. I don't think it's so much the heavy weight that does it (though resistance training does increase bone density) but the hormones that do it. I think that since I lifted so hard and so often my body was forced to make more testosterone and consequently estrogen, which hardens up the growth plates. Who knows though, I'm still doing research.

Nssca · Aug 2, 2008

meanjoebean said:
Thanks for the input guys. Yea I don't necessarily think that I'm completely done growing, even if my hand bones are fused they'd still need to xray the knees and other long bone joints, I'm not ruling it out though. I've never done any steroids but I do believe heavy lifting can stunt growth, which I believe happened to me. I don't think it's so much the heavy weight that does it (though resistance training does increase bone density) but the hormones that do it. I think that since I lifted so hard and so often my body was forced to make more testosterone and consequently estrogen, which hardens up the growth plates. Who knows though, I'm still doing research.

Wow you dont get it all.....All the bones fuse at roughly the same time..they only x-ray the left hand as a standard to determine if your done growing...one more time dude your grown...you will not grow any taller...get it?