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Yes I did quit bodybuilding. But only for the past 4 months. Remember when I torn the right side of my chest off. So it was just a joke. I did not expect anyone to comment though and I have to say I am a bit surprised. Now I know why I come to this board. Thanks to anybody who said anything.
Vander- First off, I have great genetics. I would like you to show someone my age with better shape or lines than ME.
Second you or anyone could not pay me 1 million dollars to give this sport up. It is not about the money or the attention it is about the LOVE I have for this shit. I could not picture my life without training. Just as you could probably not. But on another note I appreciate the comments before. I have just started to get my size back. I have to say it was pretty easy. I will post pics soon. I just need to work things out with phil and I should blow up, also I have a entry form for my state show sitting in my room allready filled out. Whether or not I send it in is a different story but that is my motovation right now. To be in contest shape in 4 months.
Also my pec is perfect. I am still shocked everyday I look at it, how it has not changed at all. The same exact shape and everything. Just amazing what doctors can do. Peace.
Vander- First off, I have great genetics. I would like you to show someone my age with better shape or lines than ME.
Second you or anyone could not pay me 1 million dollars to give this sport up. It is not about the money or the attention it is about the LOVE I have for this shit. I could not picture my life without training. Just as you could probably not. But on another note I appreciate the comments before. I have just started to get my size back. I have to say it was pretty easy. I will post pics soon. I just need to work things out with phil and I should blow up, also I have a entry form for my state show sitting in my room allready filled out. Whether or not I send it in is a different story but that is my motovation right now. To be in contest shape in 4 months.
Also my pec is perfect. I am still shocked everyday I look at it, how it has not changed at all. The same exact shape and everything. Just amazing what doctors can do. Peace.
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Easy BIG fella
You dont have to prove anything to me ? its your own battle bro , and im sorry if i said you had good genetics instead of great,, " my bad" LOL, you gottsta chill and not be so deffensive if you got skillz then why tell people you got them let them speak for themselves.
oh and if somebody gave me 1 million buckaroos id be basking in the Aruban sun with my feet up and a pinacolada icy cold in one hand and a Cuban Cohiba in the other just puffin away watching the clouds role by LOL just wasting time with my woman, BB would be a past time not a competition ,,,,,,LIFE, FAMILY and LOVE is all that Id need . peace
You dont have to prove anything to me ? its your own battle bro , and im sorry if i said you had good genetics instead of great,, " my bad" LOL, you gottsta chill and not be so deffensive if you got skillz then why tell people you got them let them speak for themselves.
oh and if somebody gave me 1 million buckaroos id be basking in the Aruban sun with my feet up and a pinacolada icy cold in one hand and a Cuban Cohiba in the other just puffin away watching the clouds role by LOL just wasting time with my woman, BB would be a past time not a competition ,,,,,,LIFE, FAMILY and LOVE is all that Id need . peace
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I am not getting mad. I guess you would just have to know me or talk with me in person to understand what type of person I really am. But I think that I have let me genetics and hard work speak for themsleves with what I have done this far. I was just in flex for the second time last month. So I am 20 and have been in a national mag twice allready. Oh I have to give a big thanks to hutch for letting me know about the pic in flex or else I would never have know.
Till next time....Take care.
Till next time....Take care.
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Weight
No kiddin!
what page if you dont mind me askin? Id like to check it out.
bro at 20yo you have a Huge future if you keep on keepin on the way you are. We all know How serious and dedicated you are.
you guys are just butting heads because your to much alike
Neither of you are afraid to toot your own horn,lol J/k
Naw your both a big help to he board, glad to
have ya around for us skinny guys to learn from.
Raj
No kiddin!
what page if you dont mind me askin? Id like to check it out.
bro at 20yo you have a Huge future if you keep on keepin on the way you are. We all know How serious and dedicated you are.
you guys are just butting heads because your to much alike
Neither of you are afraid to toot your own horn,lol J/k
Naw your both a big help to he board, glad to
have ya around for us skinny guys to learn from.
Raj
PHIL HERNON
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Weight 77 and Vander V
From what I see, you both have the best genetics I have seen in a looooooooong time.
From what I see, you both have the best genetics I have seen in a looooooooong time.
PHIL HERNON
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Another thing
My opinion is, after working with both of you, is that Vander is more laid back and light hearted. BBibg is maybe 2nd or 3rd in his life but is having the time of his life at the moment. Weight 77, a bit younger, is coming out of a very difficult time in his life and is feeling great about his future. BBing is his LIFE, 1st and foremost. This is his reason to live at this point in his life. When you guys talk on here, without the advantage of non verbal communication, there can and will be feelings hurt.
My opinion is, after working with both of you, is that Vander is more laid back and light hearted. BBibg is maybe 2nd or 3rd in his life but is having the time of his life at the moment. Weight 77, a bit younger, is coming out of a very difficult time in his life and is feeling great about his future. BBing is his LIFE, 1st and foremost. This is his reason to live at this point in his life. When you guys talk on here, without the advantage of non verbal communication, there can and will be feelings hurt.
PHIL HERNON
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Honestly
With TT, things are different. He pays me, well, in other ways..........
With TT, things are different. He pays me, well, in other ways..........
PHIL HERNON
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You TT
You can continue "paying" me.
You can continue "paying" me.
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i have read 2% of this thread... but i can say bbing is for you only.. dont wait on anyone else to make ur next move.
people critisize us for doing it dedicate so much work/time into such sport. but they can never see/feel teh mental benefits, beeing for me makes me feel awsome confident how i would like to always feel. dont quit it for too long bro if u get depressed u always got the gym to turn too, it really helped me out and a lot of others through tough times...
people critisize us for doing it dedicate so much work/time into such sport. but they can never see/feel teh mental benefits, beeing for me makes me feel awsome confident how i would like to always feel. dont quit it for too long bro if u get depressed u always got the gym to turn too, it really helped me out and a lot of others through tough times...
Copy/Paste....I am costantlyu adding inspirational words to my arsenal. Keeps me motivated and has saved my "life" practically. Its the only thing that stays constant in my hectic life. Much love for my brothers in IRON!
DamageInc
"When in doubt...choke em out"
Not trying to throw this thread off topic but this one is a classic.
It took me years to fully appreciate the value of the lessons I have
learned from the Iron. I used to think that it was my
adversary, that I was trying to lift that which does not want to be
lifted. I was wrong.
When the Iron doesn't want to come off the mat, it's the kindest thing
it can do for you. If it flew up and went through the
ceiling, it wouldn't teach you anything. That's the way the Iron talks
to you. It tells you that the material you work with is that
which you will come to resemble. That which you work against will
always work against you.
It wasn't until my late twenties that I learned that by working out I
had given myself a great gift. I learned that nothing good
comes without work and a ceratin amount of pain. When I finish a set
that leaves me shaking, I know more about myself. When
something gets bad, I know it can't be as bad as that workout.
I used to fight the pain, but recently this became clear to me: pain
is not my enemy; it is my call to greatness. But when dealing
with the Iron, one must be careful to interpret the pain correctly.
Most injuries involving the Iron come from ego. I once spent a few
weeks lifting weight that my body wasn't ready for and
spent a few months not picking up anything heavier than a fork. Try to
lift what you're not prepared to and the Iron will teach
you a little lesson in restraint and self-control.
I have never met a truly strong person who didn't have self-respect. I
think a lot of inwardly and outwardly directed contempt
passes itself off as self-respect: the idea of raising yourself by
stepping on someone's shoulders instead of doing it yourself.
When I see guys working out for cosmetic reasons, I see vanity
exposing them in the worst way, as cartoon characters,
billboards for imbalance and insecurity. Strength reveals itself
through character. It is the difference between bouncers who get
off strong-arming people and Mr.Pepperman.
Muscle mass does not always equal strength. Strength is kindness and
sensitivity. Strength is understanding that your power is
both physical and emotional. That it comes from the body and the mind.
And the heart.
Yukio Mishima said that he could not entertain the idea of romance if
he was not strong. Romance is such a strong and
overwhelming passion, a weakened body cannot sustain it for long.
I have some of my most romantic thoughts when I am with the Iron. Once
I was in love with a woman. I thought about her the
most when the pain from a workout was racing through my body.
Everything in me wanted her. So much so that sex was only a
fraction of my total desire. It was the single most intense love I
have ever felt, but she lived far away and I didn't see her very
often. Working out was a healthy way of dealing with the loneliness.
To this day, when I work out I usually listen to ballads.
I prefer to work out alone. It enables me to concentrate on the
lessons that the Iron has for me. Learning about what you're
made of is always time well spent, and I have found no better teacher.
The Iron had taught me how to live. Life is capable of
driving you out of your mind. The way it all comes down these days,
it's some kind of miracle if you're not insane. People have
become separated from their bodies. They are no longer whole. I see
them move from their offices to their cars and on to their
suburban homes. They stress out constantly, they lose sleep, they eat
badly. And they behave badly. Their egos run wild; they
become motivated by that which will eventually give them a massive
stroke. They need theIron mind.
Through the years, I have combined meditation, action, and the Iron
into a single strength. I believe that when the body is
strong, the mind thinks strong thoughts. Time spent away from the Iron
makes my mind degenerate. I wallow in a thick
depression. My body shuts down my mind. The Iron is the best
antidepressant I have ever found. There is no better way to
fight weakness than with strength. Once the mind and body have been
awakened to their true potential, it's impossible to
turnback.
The Iron never lies to you. You can walk outside and listen to all
kinds of talk, get told that you're a god or a total bastard. The
Iron will always kick you the real deal. The Iron is the great
reference point, the all-knowing perspective giver. Always there
like a beacon in the pitch black. I have found the Iron to be my
greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends
may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
It took me years to fully appreciate the value of the lessons I have
learned from the Iron. I used to think that it was my
adversary, that I was trying to lift that which does not want to be
lifted. I was wrong.
When the Iron doesn't want to come off the mat, it's the kindest thing
it can do for you. If it flew up and went through the
ceiling, it wouldn't teach you anything. That's the way the Iron talks
to you. It tells you that the material you work with is that
which you will come to resemble. That which you work against will
always work against you.
It wasn't until my late twenties that I learned that by working out I
had given myself a great gift. I learned that nothing good
comes without work and a ceratin amount of pain. When I finish a set
that leaves me shaking, I know more about myself. When
something gets bad, I know it can't be as bad as that workout.
I used to fight the pain, but recently this became clear to me: pain
is not my enemy; it is my call to greatness. But when dealing
with the Iron, one must be careful to interpret the pain correctly.
Most injuries involving the Iron come from ego. I once spent a few
weeks lifting weight that my body wasn't ready for and
spent a few months not picking up anything heavier than a fork. Try to
lift what you're not prepared to and the Iron will teach
you a little lesson in restraint and self-control.
I have never met a truly strong person who didn't have self-respect. I
think a lot of inwardly and outwardly directed contempt
passes itself off as self-respect: the idea of raising yourself by
stepping on someone's shoulders instead of doing it yourself.
When I see guys working out for cosmetic reasons, I see vanity
exposing them in the worst way, as cartoon characters,
billboards for imbalance and insecurity. Strength reveals itself
through character. It is the difference between bouncers who get
off strong-arming people and Mr.Pepperman.
Muscle mass does not always equal strength. Strength is kindness and
sensitivity. Strength is understanding that your power is
both physical and emotional. That it comes from the body and the mind.
And the heart.
Yukio Mishima said that he could not entertain the idea of romance if
he was not strong. Romance is such a strong and
overwhelming passion, a weakened body cannot sustain it for long.
I have some of my most romantic thoughts when I am with the Iron. Once
I was in love with a woman. I thought about her the
most when the pain from a workout was racing through my body.
Everything in me wanted her. So much so that sex was only a
fraction of my total desire. It was the single most intense love I
have ever felt, but she lived far away and I didn't see her very
often. Working out was a healthy way of dealing with the loneliness.
To this day, when I work out I usually listen to ballads.
I prefer to work out alone. It enables me to concentrate on the
lessons that the Iron has for me. Learning about what you're
made of is always time well spent, and I have found no better teacher.
The Iron had taught me how to live. Life is capable of
driving you out of your mind. The way it all comes down these days,
it's some kind of miracle if you're not insane. People have
become separated from their bodies. They are no longer whole. I see
them move from their offices to their cars and on to their
suburban homes. They stress out constantly, they lose sleep, they eat
badly. And they behave badly. Their egos run wild; they
become motivated by that which will eventually give them a massive
stroke. They need theIron mind.
Through the years, I have combined meditation, action, and the Iron
into a single strength. I believe that when the body is
strong, the mind thinks strong thoughts. Time spent away from the Iron
makes my mind degenerate. I wallow in a thick
depression. My body shuts down my mind. The Iron is the best
antidepressant I have ever found. There is no better way to
fight weakness than with strength. Once the mind and body have been
awakened to their true potential, it's impossible to
turnback.
The Iron never lies to you. You can walk outside and listen to all
kinds of talk, get told that you're a god or a total bastard. The
Iron will always kick you the real deal. The Iron is the great
reference point, the all-knowing perspective giver. Always there
like a beacon in the pitch black. I have found the Iron to be my
greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends
may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
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Yes, I once made sweet love to a 45 lb plate. The feel of the cold, hard iron made me feel so safe and loved. After the beautiful time I spent with my iron damsel, I wept over the moment that I had just experienced. Eventually, my metal love was taken from me by a 400 pound powerlifter. But the memories I have of her can never be taken away.
Sorry Damage, but that was just a little odd.
Sorry Damage, but that was just a little odd.
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