it was a tren a + test e cycle... I think what logan said about estrogen hammering the libido may be true, too... since I posted this thread I've been doing more research and that's what people seem to be saying -- no estrogen = no libido/woodrow. I should have used clomiphene, but when I made arrangements for everything, I used swale's protocol, which I'm sure you're all familiar with. Anyhow, I don't want to hammer my estro too much... maybe I could do 20 mg per day of nolva instead of 40 for the first 2 weeks of 4 total? Been using 12.5 mg exemestane throughout. What do you think?