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X REPS - Get Big Like Ronnie

RazorCuts

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Huge-Muscle Dimensions With Continuous Tension

We’re all about getting the most mass bang for your effort buck. In other words, quick-hit mass blasts that don’t take a lot of time but provide the most size stimulation possible—no wasted effort. After looking back over our 40-plus years of combined training experience and analyzing the workouts of many champion bodybuilders, we’ve determined that one of the biggest contributors to bigness is—drum roll, please—continuous tension. And not getting enough of it may be the reason for your sluggish gains. Let us explain...

We’ve talked about Ronnie Coleman, the current Mr. Olympia, who does only partial reps on almost every exercise—and those partials always include the max-force point, where fiber activation is red-lining (the X Spot). Another interesting detail is that he rarely does low reps as you’d expect—they’re usually up around 12. So what he’s doing is keeping tension on the muscle for a considerable length of time (we’ve said that around 30 seconds or more is best for hypertrophy). He’s also enhancing fiber recruitment by using a controlled explosion right at the semistretched point on the stroke—like near the bottom of a bench press. But let’s talk tension time first...

Locking out on exercises where the target muscle can rest is useless because it kills continuous tension. That means moving the bar all the way up on bench presses and squats is costing you mass gains. The top range of the squat is almost all glutes, so the quads get a rest. At the top of a bench press your pecs relinquish the load to the triceps and front delts. So if you lock out, it’s like doing a series of singles, which is fine for powerlifters interested mostly in strength development and who have to lock out in competition (we’re interested in maximum muscle mass first, with a strength side effect).

We’ve come to the realization that if you’re after the most mass stimulation possible, you should avoid the top third of the stroke on those types of exercises. Remember, continuous tension blocks blood flow to the muscle (occlusion), which triggers an incredible anabolic response—if that tension lasts long enough. (Longer tension times is one reason Ronnie Coleman is so freaky huge!)

Time under tension—King TUT—is very, very important. In fact, we’ve labeled short, or lower-rep, sets as one of the biggest mistakes, if not the biggest mistake, in muscle building. Why? Because most bodybuilders are obsessed with using heavy weights and lower reps, so time under tension is cut short on every set. They’ve been conditioned to believe that low reps build the most mass, which isn’t true.

Extended tension times—up to a point—do more for muscle mass than lower reps (one reason is the size principle of muscle-fiber recruitment, which is explained in The Ultimate Mass Workout e-book). Low reps are more for strength with a slight size side effect. Nevertheless, lower-rep sets every now and then can enhance your bodybuilding progress by increasing your nervous system response—more strength may allow you to involve more fibers eventually on any one set (Coleman does low reps every so often, like on squats). If you want to insure more muscle stimulation, we suggest you add X Reps to those low-rep sets. That way you exponentially jack up the mass-building effects. For example...

Let’s say you do a set of bench presses with a heavy weight that allows you only seven reps. If every rep lasts about three seconds, that’s only 21 seconds of tension time—good for strength, not so good for size (and remember not to go to lockout so that your pecs stay engaged throughout). When you miss on rep eight, you want to somehow keep firing the muscle to extend the tension time. Lower the bar to just above your chest, the X Spot, and blast up to just below the midpoint of the stroke. You may need help from a partner, but the growth response you’ll get from more stress right at the max-force point will be well worth the extra effort. (X Reps are impossible on free-bar squats, so you may want to do your X-Rep set on a Smith machine or hack machine.)

Think about it. If you can get six X-Rep partials, each one lasting more than one second, you can push your low-rep set closer to 30 seconds of total tension time, the anabolic time zone. That gives you a double-whammy—strength-building effects from the lower reps and more size stimulation by extending the tension time.

You get bigger muscle dimensions with more continuous tension, so blast out some X Reps on most of your lower-rep sets. It’s like size-building insurance!

—Steve Holman and
Jonathan Lawson
www.X-Rep.com
 
Who needs J Reps when you got X Reps. Watch out Ronnie.

RC
 
Fibre densities and ratios, and muscle belly length

All these rep schemes leave out the factor of muscle fibre number and density, as well as muscle belly length.
And they have to. These are genetically-set parameters that will not change with training (yes, there are some isloated references to hyperplasia under some circumstances, but hyperplasia has been elusive in terms of trying to find a stimulus that will produce it consistantly).

All other things being equal, fibre density and muscle belly length are probably the most important predictors of muscle size. The individual with higher fibre numbers, and long muscle belly/short tendon structure will ultimately have bigger muscles than those without, regardless of whether it's X-rep, JRep, or any other rep scheme.
 
Amen Dad. Great to see you chiming in on some of this stuff. We need an experieced gentleman like you to set us straight.


RC
 
Also if they say you need a 30 sec TUL then when using lower reps why not just change rep speed? or just keep your reps between 10-12.

RC
 
Example Arnold, high volume high reps. Then you have someone
like Bertel foxx (not sure on the spelling) who did heavy work outs
with reps ending no higher then 8 as I can remember. And he was
a monster. So I feel too that you can lift anyway you want but genetics
will have the finall say.
 
get big like ronnie

so when we buy the training method do we get gh kits, slin, abombs and a gallon jug of test too ?? :D :D
 
Mr Pickles said:
so when we buy the training method do we get gh kits, slin, abombs and a gallon jug of test too ?? :D :D

Yep, act now and we'll throw in a lesson to be learned.
 
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I agree that one particular strategy may be more productive than another, but in my opinion I find that through trial and error I have found what works best for me. I'm training since 1989 and I am still constantly altering my routines in the hopes of finding that "magic formula".

I find that "consistency of application" has been the most important aspect of my gains over time. That means that regardless of my mood, my life stresses, etc. I never miss workouts or meals or supplements.

Also, I have learned a great deal by experimenting. Next week I plan on dedicating the entire week's worth of workouts to higher rep training. I've done this before, it provides a nice break from the "go heavy or go home" mentality that I usually carry into the gym. It also gives my tendons a well-deserved rest.

Whatever you do, always mix it up and never stop learning. Also, never stop - period!
 
Amazing!

RazorCuts said:
Who needs J Reps when you got X Reps. Watch out Ronnie.

RC

I'm amazed how you can attack something you have never tried or even know the details about. Keep going, obviously it makes you feel better for some unknown reason.
 
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Extreme said:
I'm amazed how you can attack something you have never tried or even know the intricate details about. Keep going, obviously it makes you feel better for some unknown reason. Meanwhile I'll keep with JReps... oh you might be interested in the extra mass I now carry from them in just 4 weeks.

man i really really happy for ya.trust me really really.
but i am geting really and really anoyed by you too.
ok you were lifting for nearly 30 year good for you.i hope i really hope you are as big as a house.and your arms are big too.
but please drop this shit.if yoou not saying and just playing around with your JREPS please close your mouth and read and exept what other posting.
o have nothing against you TRUST me on this one.but please stop it.

and grow as much as you can,caz i am.
 
Fair enough

Fair enough but it isn't me that is keeping the chiding up! So if you want this to die - as do I as some have missed my point - then I would direct your concerns to the appropriate party.

All the best with your gains as well. :)
 
I have a buddy who was on the Jr olympic team weightlifting. He was 6'2 and competed at 180 ish. this kid would do front squats with 5 plates for reps. rdls with 4 plates. he was doing reps of 4-6 and only 3-4 sets. twice a week. now wouldnt you expect him to be freaking huge? to back up what I have learned and what Phil said earlier workouts dont make you big, food and supplements do. Thats it.
 
Extreme said:
Fair enough but it isn't me that is keeping the chiding up! So if you want this to die - as do I as some have missed my point - then I would direct your concerns to the appropriate party.

All the best with your gains as well. :)

thank you
 
LEX said:
I have a buddy who was on the Jr olympic team weightlifting. He was 6'2 and competed at 180 ish. this kid would do front squats with 5 plates for reps. rdls with 4 plates. he was doing reps of 4-6 and only 3-4 sets. twice a week. now wouldnt you expect him to be freaking huge? to back up what I have learned and what Phil said earlier workouts dont make you big, food and supplements do. Thats it.


Lex the thing is people just dont get it.
Look at the people flocking to IronMans routine looking for the holy grail.
Without food and supps no routine will put any muscle on you.
I had a freind who never worked out but was so geneticly gifted he made me look like i never touched a weight. I used to beg him to lift because if he just looked at the weight he would blow up.
Genetics my freinds.

RC
 
RazorCuts said:
Lex the thing is people just dont get it.
Look at the people flocking to IronMans routine looking for the holy grail.
Without food and supps no routine will put any muscle on you.
I had a freind who never worked out but was so geneticly gifted he made me look like i never touched a weight. I used to beg him to lift because if he just looked at the weight he would blow up.
Genetics my freinds.

RC

Coopie, very well said!

I personally do not think people are flocking anywhere looking for a holy grail. As someone said earlier in another thread, we are simply building on what others before us have already tried, whether it be you, Iron Man, DC or Phil. The day I stop experimenting outside the box or thinking on my own, in light of what other trainers have to offer through experience or their own thoughts, is the day I stop training. Iron Man is simply offering up what he has come to believe is the best routine for him. Who knows, others may build on his ideas and come up something slightly different that works wonders for them.

After all, "Genius is born from confusion"
 
What a load of BS.

Promising "get big like Ronnie" is an obvious marketing tactic that preys on the lesser educated. This tells me this routine is total crap.
 
Ronnie is so damn big because of his recovery ability, and genetic predisposition. I really belive he would be the same size doing almost anything with wieghts if you didnt change anything else.

Thats my 2 cents.
 
No shit
 
RazorCuts said:
Amen Dad. Great to see you chiming in on some of this stuff. We need an experieced gentleman like you to set us straight.


RC

He know his shit and can get it across in a post. Very bright guy.

Boo
 

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