I have been trying to avoid this thread but maybe ill shed some light...
I know many do not always take what I say on these topics as truth since I am the sponsor for it, but I have addressed that many times. take it for what you will...
to use, the antiox are many times more expensive then aas, at least for me.
I feel at this point, for me, the antiox are superior to aas.
why?
what I need is help with recovery, I know how to train, I have been training for a LONG time. I have used aas for a LONG time. I have used aas at very high doses before and for long periods...
are anti ox going to give the same effects as aas?
no, not at all.
I do not think you should expect that, if that is what you are looking for you will be disappointed.
the antiox, curc for example does heal muscle. it does it in ways that aas do not. it helps greatly with recovery and does it with no other bad side effects. it also reduces pain. high dose curc is the only way I can train heavy as I have too much joint pain without.
at very high doses it does add some fullness. is it anadrol fullness? no
is it a little extra something, yes, a little more fullness and hardness. on par with a small amount of anavar. is it easy to get to this dose? fuck no
I need to be 800-1000mgs for this.
using that much is very hard. especially for longer periods of time.
the key with these is being able to train and recover at a higher rate, so,if you have previously built a strong base using aas these anti ox will allow you to train in a way that can support that advanced growth without additional aas.
this is something that older guys will see much more then younger guys.
the younger guys have not developed muscles and cns enough for them to really SEE this.
younger bb type guys will not appreciate this. athletes will appreciate this as these deliver pure recovery and cns enhancement without the side effects of aas. aas in bb doses are counter productive to REAL ATHLETIC training.
res really brings out vascularity for me.
in some areas like back of triceps even more then some aas.
probably due to less estrogen activity... at least in the tricep.
these things do not give you the look, fullness or thickness of aas, not in any way. what they do is allow you to train and recover in a way that a fair dose of aas will. from my experience about 1500mgs. the thing is they do not have the aas side effects.
no swollen prostate, no higher blood pressure, not out of breath, no cholesterol issues, no liver issues. usually they help these things.
young guys looking to change how they look with aas will not get what they are looking for here. aas to me are simply cosmetic drugs, like make up, you put them on and you look a certain way. once you take them away you don't look like that anymore...
these types of product can help you to look like you are on lots of aas without actually being on lots of aas, given that you have previously put the work in with aas and extreme training.
so if you want to add fullness to an aas blast probably you will do better by just using aas.
if you want to be able to train hard and actually do a real blast sort of training and you stay on trt sort of doses these will make a big difference.
I feel much better with the anitox then I do with aas, just no comparison. but I am not looking for an aas muscle suite effect, I am just trying to hold onto or get back to a size that I was while using lots of aas. at my age and details large doses of aas just do not make sense.
I want to feel and look great and improve for the next 10-20 years aas at some point will be counter productive simply due to health or potential health issues. you cant train if you are not healthy!
hope that helps a little.
also, lets please remember these products are in sterile solutions, that is all I know. what you do after that is your business!
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