Afraid to come "off"

[Dallashunk]

Im 41, 6ft, 245 pounds, not cut but fairly lean muscle. Ive been on now since last February. I started with 500mg Test, 350mg Tren, did that for about 8-12 weeks, after that maintained about 700mg of test a week, followed by another Test/Tren cycle during the summer. Ive been on Test, 850mg a week for the rest of the year. This is the longerst time Ive even spent "on".
Im just not feeling it anymore. No longer making gains of any kind, so Im now contemplating the inevitable, coming off for awhile. Clomid and Nolvadex for a month and see if my natural test comes back.
Im afraid of a few things, well, getting smaller, I guess thats just a psycological issue I need to deal with anyway. After a while you are known and admired for your physique, it becomes what you are known for, your identity.
Im also worried about my natural test coming back to any decent level, I mean, Im 41, getting older, I guess I cant expect it to be like it was in my 20's or 30's. What do you guys think? Are any other 40something guys coming off and getting their natural test back up?
But I think my body and my receptors need a break, Im gonna try to get my balls back to producing, for a while anyway, then start again sometime after the first of the year. Kind of scared of facing this, especially after nearly a year, any comments or suggestions appreciated.

 

[Idra]

why not just drop to trt levels and stay there for a while?

 

[tri-terror]

If you truly want to come off I would hit clomid and nolva and DAA pretty hard.
Why do you want to come off though after being "on" for almost a year? Lack of gains? you could always just do a couple hundred milligrams of test a week for a while.
Have you had any labs done during this period of time? If you are healthy there is no need to come completely off unless that is a personal choice you've made.

 

[phatkid77]

:yeahthat:

Can't come off. Not for a year. As my bro said. Too long and u go one step foreward two back....

 

[EYE2EYE]

If your health means anything to you, then yes, come off. Peace.

 

[tri-terror]

If your health means anything to you, then yes, come off. Peace.

This is very bad advice in my opinion. If his cholesterol is ok, liver, kidneys, normal crit etc. it could be MORE unhealthy to come off and have low testosterone.

I'm not saying he shouldn't try to come off if he really wants to, but from a health standpoint he could be fine to stay on a true TRT dose.

 

[TeknoViking]

i would just drop dose down to 160mg of test c with about 5ius of rips or keifies ( i really like these). you will feel good bro. and if you want to feeel extra awesome order some cialis from any sponsor and you should be rocking and rolling in every way.

at least run that for a while and get some blood work done give your body a break if you feel that you need it or your blood work says so.

 

[tri-terror]

i would just drop dose down to 160mg of test c with about 5ius of rips or keifies ( i really like these). you will feel good bro. and if you want to feeel extra awesome order some cialis from any sponsor and you should be rocking and rolling in every way.

at least run that for a while and get some blood work done give your body a break if you feel that you need it or your blood work says so.

This is very good advice.

 

[jaltb4k]

i would just drop dose down to 160mg of test c with about 5ius of rips or keifies ( i really like these). you will feel good bro. and if you want to feeel extra awesome order some cialis from any sponsor and you should be rocking and rolling in every way.

at least run that for a while and get some blood work done give your body a break if you feel that you need it or your blood work says so.

i think this great advice. i truly think that within the next 5 or so years youll find most males over the age of 40 on some form of trt.a few ius of gh too,yup liking that advice

 

[Incognito1]

This is very bad advice in my opinion. If his cholesterol is ok, liver, kidneys, normal crit etc. it could be MORE unhealthy to come off and have low testosterone.

I'm not saying he shouldn't try to come off if he really wants to, but from a health standpoint he could be fine to stay on a true TRT dose.

I agree. A year on is too long a time to just come off. I agree TRT dose would be best and possibly down the track if you really have your heart set on it coming off might be an option but I wouldnt think that it would be any time soon. Small safe steps. Its amazing what sudden loss of test can do to your mentality.

 

[pimpman]

If your health means anything to you, then yes, come off. Peace.

horrible advice ...being 41 alone most likely his test levels are gonna be low on top of that he been on for a year if he comes off his level will defenatly drop below normal

best he can do first get blood work if everything looks good he can drop to trt dose and run that for at least 5 to 6 months then blast again after that

 

[keith1569]

ya bro drop down to like 200mg a week of test and add in some gh..you will notice a difference in strength and such, but it will be a lot easier than trying to come totally off..as others said, grab some cialas to if you want/need

 

[Dallashunk]

i would just drop dose down to 160mg of test c with about 5ius of rips or keifies ( i really like these). you will feel good bro. and if you want to feeel extra awesome order some cialis from any sponsor and you should be rocking and rolling in every way.

at least run that for a while and get some blood work done give your body a break if you feel that you need it or your blood work says so.

So basically, what Im kind of getting from everyone is that "normal" test levels at 41, especially after running cycles over the last 10 years is most likely going to be low or inferior anyway? So there is really no point in trying to get my normal levels back with clomid and Nolva? I should just go to true hrt levels or "cruising" if you will. This whole getting old thing is kind of hard to deal with,lol

 

[tri-terror]

So basically, what Im kind of getting from everyone is that "normal" test levels at 41, especially after running cycles over the last 10 years is most likely going to be low or inferior anyway? So there is really no point in trying to get my normal levels back with clomid and Nolva? I should just go to true hrt levels or "cruising" if you will. This whole getting old this is kind of hard to deal with,lol

Yes, the chances of you having a normal test level are slim to none. Maybe not impossible, but why yo yo trying to get normal function again especially if you know you are going to cycle again in the future?
The body like homeostastis, I feel like the yo yoing up and down of people that cycle is worse for you than staying on provided your labs are good.

 

[pesty4077]

I agree, at 52, I like 1 shot of test, some growth and cialis. Makes me feel like I am 1/2 my age. You been on a very long time, you will crash a little even with that. I suggest you taper off slowly.

 

[TNH]

I wouldn't be worried about coming off, I would be more worried about the damage of staying on at 40+ years of age (unless by staying on you mean blasts with honest HRT cruises in between).
As others have said, I would just drop the cycle doses down to true HRT, 150mg per week. You won't have the health issues associated with low/no test, and you'll be on low enough of a dose to avoid health problems from constant AAS use.
It would be a no brainer to me, come off and do HRT. At 41 you would probably want to get on HRT even if you had never touched AAS at all.

Anyone who is serious about fitness/lifting/bodybuilding/whatever is going to want to maximize their potential, so even if you didn't use AAS at all, you would probably consider HRT when the time came just because father time lowers your test levels regardless of whether or not you used AAS before then.

 

[Dallashunk]

I wouldn't be worried about coming off, I would be more worried about the damage of staying on at 40+ years of age (unless by staying on you mean blasts with honest HRT cruises in between).
As others have said, I would just drop the cycle doses down to true HRT, 150mg per week. You won't have the health issues associated with low/no test, and you'll be on low enough of a dose to avoid health problems from constant AAS use.
It would be a no brainer to me, come off and do HRT. At 41 you would probably want to get on HRT even if you had never touched AAS at all.

Anyone who is serious about fitness/lifting/bodybuilding/whatever is going to want to maximize their potential, so even if you didn't use AAS at all, you would probably consider HRT when the time came just because father time lowers your test levels regardless of whether or not you used AAS before then.

Good advise. I know i need a break from the AAS use, but I guess I also need to realize Im getting older. Thats a tough issue in itself,lol. Im gonna drop down the doseage to 150mg test a week.

 

[TeknoViking]

Good advise. I know i need a break from the AAS use, but I guess I also need to realize Im getting older. Thats a tough issue in itself,lol. Im gonna drop down the doseage to 150mg test a week.

I believe you said you are 41? Come on hear more often man, and you will see some amazing builds on some members we got here that are around that age. Hell i am 27 and they got better bodies then i do.

 

[Elvia1023]

Most have covered it perfectly. Don't come off at all... it will do more harm than good. At your age after such a long cycle you will feel awful after coming off. Come down to a true trt dose. 150mg per week test e/c and stay there for atleast 6 months. You will be surprised how good you will look if you follow the right diet etc. 5IU GH will do wonders for maintaining your gains too.

 

[sammy555]

I'm 37 and not ever coming off fully. I want a good heavy year next year doing 6 weeks on 6 weeks of blast and cruise then try to maintain on lower dose and peps for a while

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