I didn't think so until repeated blood work on deca showed it.
After I finish this bottle of deca I'll probably replace it with 1-test cyp from now on depending on how good the gains are from it
I didn't think so until repeated blood work on deca showed it.
The drawbacks of Deca outweigh it's benefits unless you are trying to bulk quickly. Otherwise avoid it. It is toxic on the kidneys and is a killer for the libido in many people. Generally speaking... YESTERDAYS' NEWS!!
That's the first I've heard of deca being bad for the kidneys
I respect that you may not have heard about this but is certainly true. Ask some more of the experienced guys on here like me and other dudes in their late thirties, early forties and up, basically anyone who's run it enough times to know and been around the scene long enough to have seen it's effects on fellow bodybuilders over time.
Method, how much have u ran and what was ur test dosage? We're u using anceleries? What other gear if any besides test and deca? Was it your own blood work which has led u to believe in deca being toxic or was it a study you read?The drawbacks of Deca outweigh it's benefits unless you are trying to bulk quickly. Otherwise avoid it. It is toxic on the kidneys and is a killer for the libido in many people. Generally speaking... YESTERDAYS' NEWS!!
Chicken likes it! People seem to belive nandrolone is some foreign lab created steroid when it's naturaly made by our body's ( in both men and women) and is virtually identical to what our body produces. U go Pins! I hope I can continue on my current path for as long as u and some, at 44 ill be there in a minute. I never plan completely going off. Your post is appreciated for its honesty in exposing the reality of what is shielded by many.I'm 60 years old and been juicing for over half of my life.Ive used almost every compound available and I never go off of test and deca.I run test at a gram a week and 400mg of deca.I also run d-bol and drol combined 4 weeks and 4 weeks off non-stop.Ive been doing this for the last 5 years or so.This is what works for me..............
Chicken likes it! People seem to belive nandrolone is some foreign lab created steroid when it's naturaly made by our body's ( in both men and women) and is virtually identical to what our body produces. U go Pins! I hope I can continue on my current path for as long as u and some, at 44 ill be there in a minute. I never plan completely going off. Your post is appreciated for its honesty in exposing the reality of what is shielded by many.
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ive been running deca for over a year straight now 300-600mg.
back down to 300mg now, won't raise it again. i'm on low cycles from here on out having just had a hair transplant done, not trying to aggrevate that shit any worse.
i've had bloods three times this year, eleveated BUN, creatine, kidneys, all *barely*, though. not saying anyone is WRONG - but a year straight and i'm not seeing anything significant, but you never know when it could all go straight to hell.
never had any kidney pains or anything like that, i don't plan on continuing to run deca super long term but it has helped so much with my shoulder issues, main reason it became a staple when i dropped tren for good.
TB500 i tried for 2 months and felt zero relief, personally.
Link your pier reviewed, medically published doccument in bibliographic style here and I'll read every word. Or did u post it earlier in the thread?Doesn't the fact nandrolone is 11x more damaging to the vessels then testosterone consern the long term deca users?