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how society looks at men, decline in masculinity?

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Oh come on, what could be more gay than knights and crusaders? I mean I loved the middle ages, but they did really gay it up. Running around killing jews in the name of jesus? With all that pomp and pageantry?

What does that photo have to do with gays?? It shows the pussification of men.

Tons of medieval men were gay and it was not looked down upon. Sex with anything/anyone was fair game.

That knight in the picture, if he was gay, he'd take it like a man, while the other dude would probably cry every time. And that's if he is gay. He's most likely not, just a snowflake that thinks it's fashionable to dress like that.
 
Another thing I see today

I see alot of males, husbands, couples, where the woman appears to be in charge. Women now days are more aggressive, feel empowered, feel like they wear the pants in the relationship.

Many women are not like this, they are passive and sensitive (typical feminine traits). I personally do not worry about this as an aggressive masculine attitude in woman is unattractive so I would never be attratcted to a girl like this relationship wise in the first place

But I am not sure how some men so willingly are ok with being controlled and bossed around. I see this in my co-workers and my landlord especially

Now the opposite is bad too, I see controlling men and women who let men who are possible abusive but over protective and controlling and I wonder why don't you leave the little dick loser? Maybe they are the female version of captain save a ho and they see good in him and want to save him, where someone like me if your boyfriend is abusive he can get a sledgehammer to his head and get dumped in a ditch and the cops should turn the other way. But very Nice woman actually have empathy for them, which to me is weakness. A male who hits woman, weather he was abused or is mentally ill, I lack empathy for and am fine with whatever happening to him.

But back on topic, I find it odd that many pen seek or put up with controlling women. I also find women more aggressive in the work place and they have lower agreeableness (we are told women are more agreeable but I don't see it not in the field of mental health which I work which is 80% women).
 
BTW, what does men being gay have to do with this thread? This thread is about the pussification of men, whether they are straight, bi or gay.

Look at these dudes below. This thread is NOT about men like them.
 

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I am now 52. My grandfather was in WW2 and was a bar owner after. He was someone not to mess with and would fuck up anyone who disrespected his bar or his country. My father, after serving his tour in the Army, he was out when the Korean war started, he and his friend joined on the spot (the Marines this time) and served on the front lines. His bunker blew up and he was sent to the hospital one time, when his platoon was moving out, he got up pulled all his bandages off so he could join them again, he never did get his purple heart.
They are both done now, I look up to them for their dedication and toughness. I grew up when you could still fuck someone up without it being all over the internet, physical conflicts were part of growing up. Somewhere along the line, my generation (my friends) bore children to join this millennial movement today. The not keeping score and no ones a winner when they were young to the timeouts and not hitting your teenager for discipline, to the one political party that now hates anyone who is strong or sucessful to support socialist policies that will ruin our country in a short time. I don't want to get political but you see it on real TV everyday, I say no more.
I never considered myself a hater in anyway, I respected women, never head a problem with anyone loving whoever they wanted and did not consider myself racist one bit (and still don't). I now have many problems with the way our young society is pushing their asinine values. I have more problems with our businesses buckling and appologizing for anything liberals do not agree with instead of telling them to fuck off.
 
i am "so manly" by most of this threads criteria's.
i started to ponder how am i so "manly" yet i prob cook more than my wife, i am better at grocery shopping, the girls call me the "fun one", our dog only comes to me when she needs something.....
its cuz of respect.
my wife respects me. she has seen what i am capable of in several arenas. she knows i can cry at a movie, but dont flinch when we are in a crisis and need to take control.
i'm pretty lit... hope some of that made sense.
-F2S
 
speaking of a lack of masculinity, I was thinking today

I have no kids, but my friend has a son who is high School age

Who in the hell would a white high school age male look to now a days as a role model? The only person I can think of is Tom Brady. I am a football fan and not a patriots fan, and I do like and respect Brady, but most people dislike him. You have Peyton Manning who recently retired, but he kinda comes off as "dorky" so many would not choose him for a role model

Back when I was a kid I looked up to Scott Steiner actually, he was the reason I got into bodybuilding. I also liked the rock, now I despise him based on his left of center political views. Looking back, my cousin liked stone cold Steve Austin and Michael Jordan, but my cousin turned out to be a mess (on welfare with a bunch of kids).

I know in high school alot of kids looked up to cal Ripken, some worshiped Kurt Cobain for some reason a drug addict who killed himself lol

But who would someone like my friends son even look up to today outside of Tom Brady? Some could say Trump, but he's in his 70's I doubt many young boys would use someone that old as a role model.
 
Another thing I see today

I see alot of males, husbands, couples, where the woman appears to be in charge. Women now days are more aggressive, feel empowered, feel like they wear the pants in the relationship.

Many women are not like this, they are passive and sensitive (typical feminine traits). I personally do not worry about this as an aggressive masculine attitude in woman is unattractive so I would never be attratcted to a girl like this relationship wise in the first place

But I am not sure how some men so willingly are ok with being controlled and bossed around. I see this in my co-workers and my landlord especially

Now the opposite is bad too, I see controlling men and women who let men who are possible abusive but over protective and controlling and I wonder why don't you leave the little dick loser? Maybe they are the female version of captain save a ho and they see good in him and want to save him, where someone like me if your boyfriend is abusive he can get a sledgehammer to his head and get dumped in a ditch and the cops should turn the other way. But very Nice woman actually have empathy for them, which to me is weakness. A male who hits woman, weather he was abused or is mentally ill, I lack empathy for and am fine with whatever happening to him.

But back on topic, I find it odd that many pen seek or put up with controlling women. I also find women more aggressive in the work place and they have lower agreeableness (we are told women are more agreeable but I don't see it not in the field of mental health which I work which is 80% women).

You think too much, the human species is weak and pathetic.

"The intellect, as a means for the preservation of the individual, unfolds its chief powers in simulation; for this is the means by which the weaker, less robust individuals preserve themselves, since they are denied the chance of waging the struggle for existence with horns or the fangs of beasts of prey. In man this art of simulation reaches its peak: here deception, flattering, lying and cheating, talking behind the back, posing, living in borrowed splendor, being masked, the disguise of convention, acting a role before others and before oneself — in short, the constant fluttering around the single flame of vanity is so much the rule and the law that almost nothing is more incomprehensible than how an honest and pure urge for truth could make its appearance among men."

"What, indeed, does man know of himself! Can he even once perceive himself completely, laid out as if in an illuminated glass case? Does not nature keep much the most from him, even about his body, to spellbind and confine him in a proud, deceptive consciousness, far from the coils of the intestines, the quick current of the blood stream, and the involved tremors of the fibers? She threw away the key; and woe to the calamitous curiosity which might peer just once through a crack in the chamber of consciousness and look down, and sense that man rests upon the merciless, the greedy, the insatiable, the murderous, in the indifference of his ignorance — hanging in dreams, as it were, upon the back of a tiger. In view of this, whence in all the world comes the urge for truth?"

(On Truth and Lie in an Extra-Moral Sense)
 
The left in the US has nothing to do with the left in Europe or the Soviet Union. And not even the left in the Soviet Union had anything to do with Marx. Just as Nazism has nothing to do with Nietzsche and his phylosophy.

There is a WORLWIDE agenda in place to demasculinize males...in order to make them easier to control...make them more pliable. This agenda originates with the U.N and extends to every major government of the world, although there is conflict, to various degrees, as not everyone in all governments is on board with this agenda. Those who are work primarily through the left, although both political parties, in general, are corrupt; paid off to tow the company line, so to speak.
In terms of the U.S., this includes most of the senate, the house and other key representatives. We are F'd!
 
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https://patch.com/maryland/baltimore/deputy-baltimore-police-commissioner-robbed-gunpoint-report

So Baltimore decides it will give better optics if they hire soyboy cucks to run its PD.....

haha, I heard about baltimore

this guy was hired to over see the "consent decree" which is basically the government saying "Baltimore police, you better be nice to these thugs and not profile them or discriminate or get too rough or we will punish you"

its sad now a days the left calls the cops bad guys and street thugs good guys. this is why I would never be a cop, the politicians side with scumbags over you.
 
Not all change is good.




Well said brother. I'm not the manliest man by any means but I 100% agree. I love my wife and children more than anything. I own a decent sized business and I strive daily to treat each and every person I meet with respect. At the same time when someone tries to push me over principle kicks in and I'm as stubborn as a bull. I've said it for years that men in America and most Western cultures are under attack. It's been the last 5-10 years that it's so blatant than an idiot can see it.
 
Right, the manly thing is to just accept the societal changes pushed on you by marxist elites, like a sheep.

this is a great example of the real sheep. Someone says something you don't like so you project an entire philosophy on them so you can feel superior on the internet.
beta male shit.

There is a big thread where a lot of the same people can't figure out why the board is dying. Maybe its not so big a coincidence.
 
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this is a great example of the real sheep. Someone says something you don't like so you project an entire philosophy on them so you can feel superior on the internet.
beta male shit.

There is a big thread where a lot of the same people can't figure out why the board is dying. Maybe its not so big a coincidence.
I was gonna call you a butthurt snowflake but, then I thought about it and I think you are right :eek:

The reason for decreased activity on online forums like PM isn't competition from social media. No, the real problem is that we aren't talking enough about social justice :naughty:

I encourage everyone to create more threads about progressive topics. Here are some examples for things we need to discuss:

1) How hot is it to watch someone bang your wife!?
2) Bodybuilding diets cause excess farting and thereby worsens CLIMATE CHANGE. WE NEED TO STOP EATING!
3) Open competitions for TRANSWOMEN! Just because I have a (biologically female) penis does not mean I cannot compete with other women.
4) We need to talk about genetic privilege of people like PHIL HEATH! Force him to take estrogen to level the playing field!
5) Steroids worsen toxic masculinity, time to crack down on them! Natural BB for the win!
 
In my opinion this concept of "toxic masculinity" is the direct overreaction to the abuse of power (especially white men) in this country. We as men have to be honest with ourselves and own some of this.

"With great power comes great responsibility."

Poor leadership, not taking care of our women and daughters, not being strong in our frame, standing up for the marginalized/weak etc has got us in this place in my opinion.

Now we got things like #metoo -which started out as a good thing, but I think many would agree it has gotten waaaaaaaay out of hand.

All I'm saying is we as straight men have a hand in some of this.

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In my opinion this concept of "toxic masculinity" is the direct overreaction to the abuse of power (especially white men) in this country. We as men have to be honest with ourselves and own some of this.

"With great power comes great responsibility."

Poor leadership, not taking care of our women and daughters, not being strong in our frame, standing up for the marginalized/weak etc has got us in this place in my opinion.

Now we got things like #metoo -which started out as a good thing, but I think many would agree it has gotten waaaaaaaay out of hand.

All I'm saying is we as straight men have a hand in some of this.

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I would disagree. Most people are not filthy rich, in perfect health, have the perfect relationship, etc. Everyone has life issues they deal with. Why would I, a middle class "straight white guy" stand up for the marginalized when I have 24 hours in my day? I chose to use that time to better myself and my loved ones. Not people in my own neighborhood, state, country, etc who won't do anything for themselves or who consider themselves victims and hold great resentment for me. And those who are very vocal and loud who do stand up for these 'marginalized" people, do they actually care about these people, or are they more motivated by political purposes, wanting to feel self-righteous, or just in general hated for the "privileged" they speak out against? A good example of this would be the democrats who run inner cities. What have they done to make cities like Baltimore, Detroit, better for the "marginalized" groups? Nothing.
 
In my opinion this concept of "toxic masculinity" is the direct overreaction to the abuse of power (especially white men) in this country. We as men have to be honest with ourselves and own some of this.

Poor leadership, not taking care of our women and daughters, not being strong in our frame, standing up for the marginalized/weak etc has got us in this place in my opinion.

All I'm saying is we as straight men have a hand in some of this.


Def no toxic masculinity in you! Let`s be straight with "abuse of power by white men"... You do understand that Chicago and many other urban cities are majority people of color and run by majority people of color. They still have just as much corruption, abuse of power, by men AND women. Chicago is probably the worst and its been that way for decades! Not a white person in leadership! It`s a HUMAN flaw, not defined by a color, race or gender. Puerto rico is another great example. Complete disaster economically, no "white men abusing power" there either.

As a white conservative male I owe NOBODY. I do not owe the weak, marginalized or any other man regardless of race. I choose to help people on occasion but that should not be expected. I take care of my wife and my kids. Take your nanny talk over to the guy with 5 kids that does nothing for them. Those are just low life people and do not represent the majority of American men, nor should we all be characterized as such.

You may "have a hand in it" and feel some shame, relinquish your masculinity and apologize for others mis-doings. I will NOT.
 
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