I thought Superdrol and other prohormones were going away.

[SL1CED]

Based on the chemistry, I don't think there is another steroid that can give you the same strength, size, and overall muscularity that a cycle of M1t in 3-4 weeks. Same could apply to Pheraplex and superdrol. I would feel the same way about Dimethazine, too. In 3-5 weeks of any and all of these listed above, with special consideration to m1t, no current legal/illegal injectable or oral steroid can give you that those types of gains. Of course sides are another issue, liver health, etc.

I've never used any of this stuff, and don't intend to for quite some time but just cause it didn't work for you...perhaps take a deeper look at it. Some of this shit's potent--real potent.

 

[sarcoplasm]

All that stuff got yanked. Here's how it works. Supplement companies set up what is called a "shell company". That shell company is an entity onto itself. The shell company will alter the chemical structure of the compound ever so slightly so that it is no longer the EXACT compound that got yanked by the FDA. However, it still has the same effect in the body. This is how they keep selling it.

Be very carefull with Pro-Steroids. Some of this stuff is really harsh on the Liver - more so than even Anadrol, Winstrol and other Orals. Nobody has any real clue as to what these chemical structures even are. The raws that these shell companies come by are suspect too. I'll take my chances with UGL Orals any day over Pro-Steroids.

I'm sure that may be the case with some rogue companies but the gov't has been pretty clear about the chemical breakdown of items that they wish to make a scheduele 3 drug. The ones that remain and are being sold are not currently on the banned substance list, why superdrol which is a dimethly and supposedly harsher than bold , tren and phera remains is beyond me and many others.
As far as suspect raws, again your reputable companies such as Iforce, Ibe, Competitive edge labs have good track records. Competitive edge even provides a certificate of analysis for most if not all of its products. Again can all of these compete or top your traditional orals no, but they are a viable option for many and Ibelieve can be used safely if used with caution

 

[btech]

My only experience ever is an Anabolic Xtreme phera / Anabolic Xtreme superdrol bridge.

Phera gave me waterweight and NO notable strength gains. I took the whole bottle (60 pills). Superdrol got me STRONG and HARD (strength came in after a couple of weeks). I felt like shit on neither.

 

[ronnieron]

what are some websites that still carry some of these effective PH's? I use to get them from TF supps, but looks like they do not carry alot of the stuff they use to.

 

[sarcoplasm]

Lockoutstore or Prohormoneforum store

 

[Pristi1340]

i heard the best sd clones were superdrone, iForce's methadrol and LG's clone.... m-drol for the most part has good reviews

 

[sarcoplasm]

i heard the best sd clones were superdrone, iForce's methadrol and LG's clone.... m-drol for the most part has good reviews

I have heard rave reviews on Beastdrol as well . I gave you a great tip on Superdrone bro. It's the best price you may ever see and time is running out! Lol

 

[Ehren]

Haha! No way!

I heard AAS was legal there. . .maybe I'm wrong. What's the reason for the above supplements (melatonin, etc) being banned?

Why are they prescription only, you ask? Control. You gotta go to the Doc to get anything, and then pay for the Prescription version of the med (er...vitamin).

The pharma industry got here EARLY, knowing the EU was in the works and took the opportunity to lobby to regulate EVERYTHING. Down to vitamins in any effective dose and melatonin. The prescription melatonin is 30 bucks BTW...for 21x 3mg pills. 5 bucks for 100x5mg in the US. Makes me want to move to Moldova or Romania...

AAS used to be legal here, before the EU arose for what seems like the sole purpose of shitting on everyone's independence.

Until 2008(!!) in my country residence you could import, export, sell, manufacture AAS. I really missed the boat on that one, coulda made some good cash. :banghead:Back then, one could even could buy nandrolone phenylpropionate OTC!

Then came the complete lockdown...NOW: absolute zero tolerance. Only ONE, yes ONE injection or pill is ok for personal use. Imagine...one sad Dbol...

Yet, the other drug laws are lax: 10 doses of heroin, 10 of meth, 10 doses of coke, etcetera are OK for personal use and carry no penalty. So technically, I could have a pharmacy of drugs in my pocket and as long as they're different drugs, I'm ok. Useless though, I don't use rec's.

 

[SpartanLabs]

:banghead:yea bro.. fuck the recs.. and thats pretty shitty.. looks like you better hide the gear good in that gymbag.. lol because we all know 1 measly DBOL is just enough to make you wanna slap someone..

DIE BIG DIE STRONG DIE YOUNG..... DIANABOL

-SPARTA:headbang:

 

[waynaferd]

oh by the way guys, did u hear about the new designer "boladrol?" its supposed to be similar to bolasterone. theres a huge thread on prohormoneforum. its coming out in 2-3 weeks....

Yes, you heard it right! IBE is releasing a new PH to the market.
We have had many great products in the past, but there is nothing and has never been anything offered quite like Boladrol. The potential for this compound is outstanding and a perfect bulking agent for the upcoming winter. This is a very wet compound that will require PCT and is strongly recommended to stack with a good cycle support product.

The new product Boladrol is 7, 17-alpha-dimethyl-androsten-3, 17-diol (Boladiol), the diol version of the steroid Bolasterone.

60 caps, 2mg per cap, Ready in 2-3 weeks!

Bolasterone is the 7, 17 dimethylated version of testosterone and has the reputation as being one of the most potent steroids ever sold. Bolasterone has an anabolic to androgenic ratio that shows it to be 6x more anabolic than methyltestosterone and 3x as androgenic.

Boladrol will be best compared to Anadrol if not stronger. This PH only requires a few milligrams to see strong anabolic and androgenic effects which we were very excited to see first hand during our alpha testing of this compound. Users have been reported to gain up to a pound a day but also not coming off as quick as reported with Anadrol gains.

We have already sent out about 15 bottles to beta-testers and we are still looking for some tester/loggers to try this amazing compound before the projected 2-3 week release date of Bolodrol to the public. We are giving away 30+ bottles total to our beta-test groups to get the best data logged as possible while the caps, labels and bottles are finishing up for our big release.



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I think PH's are making a comeback!! This sh!t looks super strong yet super harsh.

 

[Pristi1340]

time will tell....... products sell themselves

 

[Steve123]

normal m1t sides like lethargy out the ass, but i got stronger off that shit than i ever have any other oral ever!!!! good solid weight gain also. hell if i were ever to go into powerlifting this would be in my arsenal for sure

B-boy, Did you get any blood work done at all? Is the M1T as bad as people claim in that area?

I used it once and just got that pain under my ribs that was almost dibilitating. Maybe I just don't react well to it. just curious.

 

[sarcoplasm]

B-boy, Did you get any blood work done at all? Is the M1T as bad as people claim in that area?

I used it once and just got that pain under my ribs that was almost dibilitating. Maybe I just don't react well to it. just curious.

Not b-boy here but obviously there have been some harsh sides associated with M1t bot pains? I havent heard of that. Funny though, people either love M1t or hate it. The liquid version that I used recently I feakin absolutely LOVED!

 

[Emery]

I can say that with my first run of Superdrol I went from 218 to 233 rather quickly. I thought most of it was water but I am now at 240+. Several months after my run with SD I had not lost any weight. My B/P never got elevated with it either. Right now, my BP is 125/75 with a resting HR of 60.

I did get that pain under my lower right ribs during my SD run. I had my liver enzymes checked and they were normal. Also had a sono done and it was normal. I think it was skeletal/muscular pain. I was lifting much heavier.

It's definitely not as smooth as test but it gets the job done fast. I just can't stand the lethargy I feel from it. Also, SD makes the nips itchy and sore pretty quick for me.

Shit does work though. It definitely is a designer, not a PH!

 

[pete793r]

did a course of hemobolin 250 couple months back....

app a mix of superdrol / halodrol / epistane

mental strength gains and blew up pretty well...

didnt do pct though - slap on the wrist (given bad advice, and didnt do enough research myself...)

id recommend that one if you can get your mits on it

oh and primordial performance are releasing a new range of PH december time ish... app the mass gainer is one to try

 

[Pristi1340]

did a course of hemobolin 250 couple months back....

app a mix of superdrol / halodrol / epistane

mental strength gains and blew up pretty well...

didnt do pct though - slap on the wrist (given bad advice, and didnt do enough research myself...)

id recommend that one if you can get your mits on it

oh and primordial performance are releasing a new range of PH december time ish... app the mass gainer is one to try

damn i never even heard of that supp

 

[b-boy]

B-boy, Did you get any blood work done at all? Is the M1T as bad as people claim in that area?

I used it once and just got that pain under my ribs that was almost dibilitating. Maybe I just don't react well to it. just curious.

no not right after, my blood work for work a few years back was right about 2 months after my m1t cycle and everything was fine except liver enzymes were slightly high, but mine always are, I have been to see a liver specialist and everything is good but he said to be 100% sure that he would have to do a biopsy. He gave me the ok with my job to work around vinyl chloride as he didn't see anything abnormal with my liver.

 

[pete793r]

damn i never even heard of that supp

well i just finished a short 4-week of dbols running at 50mg ed and i would honestly say i gained more on the PH than the dbols

although one factor may have been i ran the PH as i was coming back training after an extended layoff, so muscle memory may have added to gains made during that month

 

[waynaferd]

well i just finished a short 4-week of dbols running at 50mg ed and i would honestly say i gained more on the PH than the dbols

although one factor may have been i ran the PH as i was coming back training after an extended layoff, so muscle memory may have added to gains made during that month

Thats how I try to time my cycles.....after slacking near the end of summer, I get as close as I can to my previous "bests" (lifts and weight) in the fall, then started my PH's, so while everything was growing good they got a kick in the ass to keep that good growth rate going!good growth rate going!good growth rate going LOL

 

[btech]

Unless someone steps in and says "That's bad advice", that site anabolicminds.com seems to be full of younger gym guys who practically use their bodies as science experiments for ALL of the newest designers and prohormones. . .curious minds might wanna check it out.