1st cycle help

[BabyBeast05]

After reading the gear part on the growth principles for beginners article I was wondering if this sounds good for a first cycle:

500mg test e/week
400mg deca/week (stop 2 weeks b4 stoppin test)
run those nonstop until I feel like stoping the cycle

d-bol 30mg ed for 4 weeks on then 4 weeks off
10mg nolva ed the whole time
50mg clomid eod the whole cycle

Does that sound about right?
My other question is what to do after I come off to keep gains? Would this do it:

100mg clomid + 40mg nolva/week
50mg clomid + 30 mg nolva/week
50mg clomid + 20mg nolva/week

 

[xcelbeyond]

Need more info about you - age, height, weight, experience, goals, etc.

Try this for PCT: http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1172
You can add the nolva to this. If nothing else, it'll give you a hell of a load!

 

[Nssca]

Wow that seems like to much.. My first cycle was one 250mg. of Russian sus per week for 10 weeks...I gained 26lbs.... YOu really dont need deca. Use test and d-ball.
K.I.S.S.( keep it simple stuped) And only use pct if you cant get it up and/or have an orgasim... why fix it if it aint broke ..in other words.

 

[BabyBeast05]

Yea I kno it sounds like a lot thats why I asked if any one actually did it. Thats just what Big A recommended in the growth principle for beginners article. What I paln on doing is:
Wk 1-12 500mg test e
Wk 1-10 200-300mg deca
Wk 1-4 30mg d-bol ed
10mg Nolva ed the whole time (i'd rather be safe then sorry)
PCT after the cycle with clomid and nolva

I'm not to sure when I'll do this but I'm just trying to plan ahead so I kno exactly what I need

 

[bf5%yes]

I think that is still to much. I always use the least amount of gear I can and when I stop getting the kind of results I want then I either up the dosage of test or start an anabolic along with my test. I firmly believe if you start with to much your body will only respond to that amount or results stop. Besides you will keep more money in your pocket and keep your health.

 

[NoName!!!!]

Agreed, my first cycle coming up will be.


Turkish Sust 250, ran at 500mg a week/ for 12 weeks.

Jump start.

Danabol DS- 4 weeks at 30mg a day.

PCT

Nolva ran after cycle, 20 mg a day for 30 days.

HCG- i will have 3 1500 iu amps, i dont know what dosage yet.


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I think you are doing to much, as most say you want to try 1 steroid out first.

If you react bad to 1 steroid how do u know which one it is.


And also, no need to run Nolva throught the cycle, it can actually lesson gains.

Only use if you are geting symptoms of gyno.

save the Nolva for another cycle and your PCT, after cycle.



Goodluck, be safe.

 

[rrozell]

why do you need to jumpstart w/ sust. do you not understand the make up of this product

 

[K1]

For a first cycle I would run as such:
wk1-10 Test Enan 500mg/wk
wk1-5 Dbol 50mg/ed
wk6-10 Winni 50mg/ed
pct:
wk13 Clomid 100mg-Nolva 40mg/ed
wk14 Clomid 50mg-Nolva 30mg/ed
wk15 Clomid 50mg-Nolva 20mg/ed
If your diet and training are on should have great gains off this cycle..........

 

[JOE_COOL]

Baby Beast

After reading the gear part on the growth principles for beginners article I was wondering if this sounds good for a first cycle:

500mg test e/week
400mg deca/week (stop 2 weeks b4 stoppin test)
run those nonstop until I feel like stoping the cycle

d-bol 30mg ed for 4 weeks on then 4 weeks off
10mg nolva ed the whole time
50mg clomid eod the whole cycle

Does that sound about right?
My other question is what to do after I come off to keep gains? Would this do it:

100mg clomid + 40mg nolva/week
50mg clomid + 30 mg nolva/week
50mg clomid + 20mg nolva/week

That much deca is too much 300mgs per week made Me a little dizzy and My blood pressure went through the ceiling, I had to go with 200 deca and 500 test. and I added 15mg's of d-bol and I got liver pain after 2 weeks I took 2 weeks off and used the rest. Also got painfull pumps on that cycle in My chest mostly. I ran 20mg's of nolva all the way through.
Would I do it again? Yes. I suppose one day I will do it again.
Hope this helps.